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Propagandist posted:Sure, but then why pay/employ him if he can't do his job? He might not be posting, but that doesn't mean he wasn't involved in any of this and isn't moderating threads and such. I think he's arrogant, bad at his job and generally makes matters worse and is therefore a terrible community manager, but that doesn't mean he's doing literally nothing.
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Number19 posted:Niko is in the office. I spoke with him this morning about some stuff. You have my sincerest goondolences.
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Sep 15, 2014 21:23
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Propagandist posted:Sure, but then why pay/employ him if he can't do his job? Unsung Heroes deserve pensions, don't they? Neo Helbeast posted:I have 1440 hours of premium time sitting on my account I've got +1600, most of it was founders. Some bonuses here and there from contests and whatever. Maybe some from when I bought the package for the Shadow Hawk. Why the gently caress is there no Shadowcat yet?
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Sep 15, 2014 21:25
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I think the Shadow Cat is weird because it technically exists in this part of the timeline, but wasn't available to the front line clans for a while. Also, has MASC.
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Sep 15, 2014 21:27
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Its too bad the Loki will probably suck. Its basically the Clan evolution of the much-loved Wahammer (especially visually) snd a lmost certainly the closest we'll ever get to a Warhammer.
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Sep 15, 2014 21:28
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Are you saying they still give a gently caress about that timeline bullshit they sold to us with the rest of the snake oil?
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Sep 15, 2014 21:28
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They've always stuck with timeline appropriate mechs and tech. No reason to think otherwise (until the money runs out and they can start cashing out on Fafnirs.)
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Sep 15, 2014 21:33
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Coming soon, a brand new free mech for every player to start with instead of being restricted to Trial Mechs! Introducing the Elemental Suit (and removal of Cadet bonus because hey you don't need to buy a first mech anymore) EDIT: Lemming posted:You act like Elementals wouldn't be sweet as hell. you are right, I forgot the  Jumpjet variant sold separately, for MC
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sarmhan posted:The Fenris can go 130 km/h and has the prized FF/Endo combination so that'll be entertaining. The Loki has ECM but no FF/endosteel. Still not giving PGI any money though. And yea making the third most famous clan heavy super exclusive is really goddamn stupid. It's OK though. The Mad Dog is poo poo. It's the Timberwolf but Worse in Every Way (same speed, 15 tons lighter, less armor, worse weaponry, fewer hardpoints). Think of the Special Reward Version as a new version of the Gold `Mechs to TK, I guess? (I still don't advocate teamkilling, but it's pretty much proof that the user is an idiot) The King Crab will be interesting, it's basically as close as the IS will get to a Dire Wolf. Paired ballistics in the arms, missiles in the torso. Stock comes with a pair of AC/20s, the Star League version gets a pair of Gauss Rifles instead and--I have not a clue what they'll do to get three different variants of it, since the variants we could get (KGC-000, KGC-000b, KGC-0000, and KGC-001) all have the same hardpoints (the KGC-001 will get some extra missile hardpoints in the torso for its SSRM-2s  ). Edit: They could make it really cool, but I suspect it will look like a cheese wedge with legs and will be difficult to distinguish from a Dire Wolf or Warhawk at range.And finally, to look a gift horse in the mouth: The CN9-AH Centurion is utter poo poo. I hope you like trying to cram ballistics and missiles into a chassis that can't support either in sufficient quantities. It's the Yen Lo Wang with missiles instead of lasers. Unless they give us the Light AC/2 and Light AC/5 this thing is going to be straight-up worthless for a long, long time. At least it's a free Mechbay (why are we charged money for those again, when `Mechs already cost $20-35?) PoptartsNinja fucked around with this message at 21:40 on Sep 15, 2014 |
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Sep 15, 2014 21:38
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Section Z posted:Coming soon, a brand new free mech for every player to start with instead of being restricted to Trial Mechs! You act like Elementals wouldn't be sweet as hell.
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Sep 15, 2014 21:38
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Elementals could be really cool (1/10th the size of a Locust, very slow, very vulnerable to being shot, invisible in cover (that'd be hard to do), jump jet onto enemies to shoot the internals of the location you're anchored to directly (bypassing armor) with either a small laser (to do real damage) or a machinegun (to shred their components). I just have no confidence PGI could do them well (and the Inner Sphere really doesn't have a counterpart for a long, long time). The ones in Living Legends were pretty much nothing like actual Elementals, but eh, the arcade style can be really fun too.
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I'm slightly jealous about the Free 30% King Crabs. Especially if they ever fix this shitheap because those robits are awesome. But whatever, it's not going to happen so meh.
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PoptartsNinja posted:Elementals could be really cool (1/10th the size of a Locust, very slow, very vulnerable to being shot, invisible in cover (that'd be hard to do), jump jet onto enemies to shoot the internals of the location you're anchored to directly (bypassing armor) with either a small laser (to do real damage) or a machinegun (to shred their components). You could play Titanfall and pretend that the pilots out of the Titans are Elementals. You can jump on the robots and shoot them in the back of the head in that game. Titanfall is probably the most fun mech game out there right now.
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So what's the deal here? Is this kneejerk desperation or was this always the plan once they broke the IGP binds? Because it coinciding with transverse's miserable failure makes me think the former. Still though, got to admit they've succeeded in getting me to pay attention.
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Sep 15, 2014 21:57
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dMastri posted:So what's the deal here? They were always planning the clan reinforcement pack and the Mad Dog gift for whales. The Cent, Atlas and King Crab were probably reactions to the community making GBS threads on them.
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Sep 15, 2014 22:00
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PoptartsNinja posted:The CN9-AH Centurion is utter poo poo. I hope you like trying to cram ballistics and missiles into a chassis that can't support either in sufficient quantities. It's the Yen Lo Wang with missiles instead of lasers. Unless they give us the Light AC/2 and Light AC/5 this thing is going to be straight-up worthless for a long, long time. At least it's a free Mechbay (why are we charged money for those again, when `Mechs already cost $20-35?) I liked the AH Cent. I also own the YLW. So I might be an Idiot. I mean there is an "I" in Idiot. Lemming posted:You act like Elementals wouldn't be sweet as hell. Yeah, make them unlockable (can't be targeted), would be OP as hell against pubbies.
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Sep 15, 2014 22:03
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Perma-ECM Elementals would by funny as hell, especially if you can just snap onto mechs the way sticky-bombs snap onto things in other games. That would be enough to satisfy the craving for swarm attacking a mech.
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Sep 15, 2014 22:06
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The potential for pubby mayhem would be hilarious, too. "Whoops sorry, saw an elemental on your leg, didn't have a machinegun so I used my PPC instead  "
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Sep 15, 2014 22:09
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Drake_263 posted:The potential for pubby mayhem would be hilarious, too. "Whoops sorry, saw an elemental on your leg, didn't have a machinegun so I used my PPC instead With doubled armor you'd need 2 PPCs (and some more damaged) to kill an elemental. So you're better off firing 2 PPCs AND a AC/20 at the leg. Better safe than sorry.
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Sep 15, 2014 22:12
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I like the idea of having a bunch of elementals hitch a ride on a light that runs straight into the enemy blob and then bursts into a swarm
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Lemming posted:I like the idea of having a bunch of elementals hitch a ride on a light that runs straight into the enemy blob and then bursts into a swarm Pretty sure that's the Dasher/Fire Moth's entire raison d'etre.
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OB_Juan posted:If they are trying to use "being all conducive to conversations and poo poo" to gain "better relationship with customers", that's not terrible. Personally I believe that _appearing_ to give a poo poo and _actually_ giving a poo poo are two entirely separate things; PGI has been bad at both, and might be figuring out why that's not a good thing. I'm as hopeful as you that they're trying to gain a better relationship with customers, but to be really honest, how blind can they be? They've even had to ramp up to this after the 'It's goons, they're after us', 'we're being bullied like those feminists', 'We've delivered everything'....having them come back to the table because nobody believes their poo poo isn't that positive. I'm *kinda* hoping that they figure out that scarcity doesn't sell robbits beyond the few spergy whales, and they should change up the gameplay rather than pumping out skins. I'm also not convinced by this IGP stuff. Every time I've been around a branding change, poo poo was ready to go for a specific date, but IGPs name is still all over everything. If their timing was to launch the transverse crowd source, after leaving IGP, and coasting on the MWO proceeds, they've been kicked in the teeth twice. OB_Juan posted:It will be interesting if this is all an attempt to get people on their side for a later Transverse relaunch. Even if the community kinda liked them, it's still a community that's there to shot robbit. They're sold on it, and I suspect that they've done a bunch of work for it, but that's a whole other ballgame besides the tapdancing around the current state of MWO. One million dollars for spaceflight is so blatantly dumb that it feels like a parody. Hav fucked around with this message at 22:24 on Sep 15, 2014 |
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Fil5000 posted:Pretty sure that's the Dasher/Fire Moth's entire raison d'etre. 4 ER Medium Lasers and a Targeting Computer (and it's faster walking backwards than most Inner Sphere medium `Mechs (and quite a few lights) are running forward). The Gargoyle's your designated Elemental Carrier. It's got no torso weapons at all in most (all?) variants, and is as fast as the Timber Wolf. Clan Goliath Scorpion delivers their Elementals via Aerospace Fighter instead. As the Goliath Scorpions spend what little time they're not devoting to performing insane bullshit getting high on  Edit: Clan Goliath Scorpion is so metal that any time they're not spending killing other Clanners, they instead devote to slowly killing themselves with a deadly hallucinogenic neurotoxin. They consider this a net gain because even when they're not killing Clanners, they are still killing Clanners. VVV Star League Relics take many forms. Sometimes those forms are capable of sick benihanas. 
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They also have sweet skateboards if I remember my alt-canon correctly.
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Man did I miss out on all the fireworks, that was an entertaining 2500 post backlog.BattleMaster posted:Counting the Mad Dog that will be every 3050 invasion OmniMech available except the two with MASC. Galaga Galaxian posted:Its too bad the Loki will probably suck. Its basically the Clan evolution of the much-loved Warhammer (especially visually) and almost certainly the closest we'll ever get to a Warhammer.
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http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3665099 Here's the beginning of the MW/MC classic thread with an OP focusing on MW4:Mercs. Feel free to add stuff on the other games, PM me stuff to add for the games, or just generally criticize the OP.
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Aww, I like the Vulture. Also, apparently if you bought a founders package that has MC, you get the cent-ah as well as the atlas. That will put me up to 5 centurions in my mech bay, none of which I really use any more. Still, I would trade both the cent and the atlas in for that sweet, sweet Vulture.
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Vorenus posted:http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3665099 gonna post some mechwarrior 2+ expansions running in dosbox stuff in there tomorrow.
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Tank Boy Ken posted:I also own the YLW. So I might be an Idiot. I mean there is an "I" in Idiot. She may be dumb but she sure is fun, brother.
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So if I understand this correctly the King Crab is essentially a 100 ton assault BoomJaeger. Even with ghost heat the BooJaeger still performs so having all that additional weight will open up scary options. Which is weird because ghost heat suggests they want to deter people running around in a BoomJaeger. Oh It says a lot about my money-managing skills that I will be getting one of those for free.
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So what's this about new mechs, another scheme from to get our money for their lovely space-sim?quote:Here is a referral to Heavy Gear if anyone wants to help me get some keys: http://heavygear.com/register?ref=de54d3d3
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Galaga Galaxian posted:Its too bad the Loki will probably suck. Its basically the Clan evolution of the much-loved Wahammer (especially visually) snd a lmost certainly the closest we'll ever get to a Warhammer.
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Arquinsiel posted:The Clan evolution of the Warhammer is the Warhammer IIc. The fun poo poo will be if they put in the evolution of the Wolverine. If only there could be a Stone Rhino. I would be fully engorged.
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Arquinsiel posted:The Clan evolution of the Warhammer is the Warhammer IIc. The fun poo poo will be if they put in the evolution of the Wolverine.  They're both evolutions of the Warhammer. The Hellbringer Prime is even armed a lot like a Warhammer.
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The Loki is even underarmored and has a bunch of extraneous crap for no reason, just like the Warhammer. Pretty much every first-gen Clan omni is thematically connected to one of the classic 3025 mechs, like the Thor and the T-Bolt, and the Vulture and Archer.
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Ba Donk a Bonk posted:The Loki is even underarmored and has a bunch of extraneous crap for no reason, just like the Warhammer. It even has a damned searchlight, just like the Warhammer!
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Holy poo poo Poptarts you basically said the YLW is better than the AH.
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Holy poo poo, is that a toy? I think I had that toy. Oh god I'm getting flashbacks. Edit: NO DAD NO
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Propagandist posted:Holy poo poo, is that a toy? I think I had that toy. Oh god I'm getting flashbacks. Yeah it is, I have one somewhere. I haven't watched Robotech or anything at all but when I saw it I had to have it because hey, Warhammer.
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^^^^ They're a pretty sweet run of toys. I have it and the Rifleman. Wish I had found the Archer but ah well. The Longbow was available, but it looked rear end so 12 year old me gave no fucks. Galaga Galaxian posted:
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