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Soricidus posted:sorry about your bad software, I hope it gets better. you're probably using an obsolete jre or a stupidly small heap though, java 8 is really fast with anything not written by clowns so maybe try that? u dont understand i run software written by xilinx to do my jorb xilinx replacing the jre will not fix it, they make good chips but the software (like most eda tools) is a special kind of hell and i suppose i shouldn't complain too bitterly, the new! improved! xplatform java gui they bought from a startup and subsequently slowwwwwwly transitioned to is poo poo, but still about a million times better than the Wind/U "recompile yr windows api apps for linux!!!" bullshit they used to use
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BobHoward posted:and i suppose i shouldn't complain too bitterly, the new! improved! xplatform java gui they bought from a startup and subsequently slowwwwwwly transitioned to is poo poo, but still about a million times better than the Wind/U "recompile yr windows api apps for linux!!!" bullshit they used to use they should just write their software in VHDL and ship it on an FPGA that just uses a host app for I/O. kinda like a Symbolics MacIvory or a TI MicroExplorer did to turn a Mac II into a Lisp Machine, and IBM did with the PC XT/370.
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# ? Sep 21, 2014 21:57 |
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Mr Dog posted:Take a bunch of Linux software You missed an important step.
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# ? Sep 21, 2014 22:02 |
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jesus loving christ do not use a linux
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jre posted:You missed an important step. considering the upstream, idk
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# ? Sep 21, 2014 23:11 |
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BobHoward posted:u dont understand
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# ? Sep 21, 2014 23:28 |
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Installed Gnome on my laptop. It seems to work pretty good, except the Dark Adawhatever theme isn't actually being applied to everything and the window title bar takes up a lot of space and sound is muted every time I log in for some reason, but all in all a pretty positive Linux on the Desktop experience. Well that's my story. Edit: Also the hotspot to resize the right edge of a window seems to be like one pixel wide for some reason. Sauer fucked around with this message at 00:43 on Sep 22, 2014 |
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Sauer posted:It seems to work pretty good, except ... theme isn't actually being applied to everything and the window title bar takes up a lot of space and sound is muted every time I log in for some reason. except it's desktop linux, of course it doesn't actually work properly
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# ? Sep 22, 2014 00:56 |
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the thread in which yospos continually rediscovers all the ways linux is loving terrible
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# ? Sep 22, 2014 00:56 |
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The dark Adwaita theme is only applied to multimedia apps, but you can toggle a switch in GNOME Tweak Tool to make it happen globally. CSD apps take up a lot less space now. It sounds like you might have an old version or bad distro. What are you using?
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# ? Sep 22, 2014 00:58 |
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the next time I am forced to use something that isn't a mac, I'm throwing on http://www.pcbsd.org yeah that's right, desktop freebsd
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# ? Sep 22, 2014 01:10 |
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http://www.gnu-darwin.org/
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# ? Sep 22, 2014 01:11 |
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http://twitter.com/gnudarwin
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# ? Sep 22, 2014 01:18 |
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Suspicious Dish posted:The dark Adwaita theme is only applied to multimedia apps, but you can toggle a switch in GNOME Tweak Tool to make it happen globally. Arch with whatever the current version is in their Gnome meta package, which looks like 3.12.2.
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# ? Sep 22, 2014 01:34 |
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raruler posted:the next time I am forced to use something that isn't a mac, I'm throwing on http://www.pcbsd.org i used desktop freebsd for many years. those were dark years, because freebsd package management is poo poo for idiots. and freebsd has no users anymore so software doesn't get tested on it the way it used to it still (probably) sucks less than osx+homebrew. freebsd is a real unix with normal tools/binary formats/compilers
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# ? Sep 22, 2014 02:36 |
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wow, gnu darwin now you can combine the horrible performance, compatibility, and non-existent package management of osx with the horrible user experience of desktop unix
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# ? Sep 22, 2014 02:37 |
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:and freebsd has no users anymore so software doesn't get tested on it the way it used to what are you talking about, freebsd has had a massive influx of new users with the release of the playstation 4
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# ? Sep 22, 2014 02:39 |
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to my credit i was using freebsd on a laptop during the linux 2.4 "kernel of pain" fiasco by comparison to that festival of hardlocks, freebsd-CURRENT was rock solid, hearts touching. it was also scads faster, because linux didn't really support smp until 2.6
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# ? Sep 22, 2014 02:40 |
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Suspicious Dish posted:The dark Adwaita theme is only applied to multimedia apps, but you can toggle a switch in GNOME Tweak Tool to make it happen globally. sounds usable and intuitive to me!! lmao
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# ? Sep 22, 2014 02:41 |
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:i used desktop freebsd for many years. those were dark years, because it continues to be amusing that u don't get this and actually believe there is (or can be) such a thing as a linux/bsd style package manager which is not poo poo not having one is one of the keys to the success of os x Notorious b.s.d. posted:wow, gnu darwin no respect for the time cube of unix distributions (seriously get off your osx-is-awful hobby horse for a millisecond or two and click the drat links, proclus is a legend)
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# ? Sep 22, 2014 03:17 |
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quote:This looks like one of the best brain comparison images out there, proclus aka michael l. love aka the creator (and nearly only user) of gnu-darwin, posting to his unix distribution's mailing list gnu-darwin: an os for gnu open source purists which proclus proclaims to be the most free-as-in-freedom os ever. proclus copied apsl licensed darwin code to build his monument to gnu freedom for reasons which he has never, to the best of my knowledge, elucidated a god-damned legend
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# ? Sep 22, 2014 03:59 |
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why is it that no one ever dishes out the bans in this the desktop lunix honeypot thread
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# ? Sep 22, 2014 06:28 |
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Suspicious Dish posted:The dark Adwaita theme is only applied to multimedia apps, but you can toggle a switch in GNOME Tweak Tool to make it happen globally. see i see this and i read "the gnome desktop team is full of morons" because lol at not making that the default behavior
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# ? Sep 22, 2014 07:30 |
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ports + pkgng owns, sorry about whatever broken poo poo y'all have to deal with
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# ? Sep 22, 2014 07:41 |
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I installed Fedora on my laptop and Dark Adwaita looks super nice but even with gnome tweak tool and the firefox theme, firefox still uses the light version
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# ? Sep 22, 2014 09:35 |
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Forums Terrorist posted:see i see this and i read "the gnome desktop team is full of morons" because lol at not making that the default behavior
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# ? Sep 22, 2014 16:08 |
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Fib posted:I installed Fedora on my laptop and Dark Adwaita looks super nice but even with gnome tweak tool and the firefox theme, firefox still uses the light version Firefox doesn't use GTK3 so it doesn't get the same theme.
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# ? Sep 22, 2014 16:41 |
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We've talked about making the dark theme default for all apps before. It might happen at some point.
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# ? Sep 22, 2014 16:47 |
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dark doesn't need to be the default, it just needs to force the theme across all apps seriously this is basic ui design
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# ? Sep 22, 2014 16:53 |
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Apps don't have to respect the theme, and they certainly won't if they're not using our toolkit. There is a custom Firefox skin to make it look like dark Adwaita done by our design team. You can install that.
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# ? Sep 22, 2014 16:58 |
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i'm reminded of that time when osx had three different styles, two of which were apple proprietary and none of which had a clear rule as to what apps used what style but idk i kinda like the light Adwaita the dark theme has this greenish tint that makes it look like my programs are necrotic or something. also Epiphany aka Web owns a whole hell of a lot now that it has a functional adblock plus compatible back end built seamlessly into the browser lack of abp-compatible ad blocking is a deal breaker for a web browser now
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# ? Sep 22, 2014 16:59 |
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The rewritten Adwaita in 3.14 doesn't have that greenish tint.
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# ? Sep 22, 2014 17:01 |
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oh, neat. I meant to say that I don't mind having media apps using the dark theme and having everything else using the bright theme. It kinda makes sense, somehow. Epiphany has KDE-tier lovely padding and alignment now though. Also the fact that there isn't really any good way to hide the contact list and have Epiphany running in the background is annoying, but I guess that's been a problem in Epiphany since day one of GNOME 3. You can rt click minimise it, but minimising is kind of deprecated in GNOME 3 afaik so it's kinda lovely to work with. also I'm rather enjoying the fact that GNOME is handling HiDPI and multitouch far better than Windows 8 is. It actually seems like it could plausibly be used on a PC that's in tablet mode, and you guys didn't even need to make some totally separate fisher price gui bolted on the side like a siamese twin in order to do it. but then i guess that's easy to do when gnome 3 has like no third party software whatsoever i can't think of a single application that uses the current gnome 3 design language that isn't part of gnome 3.
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# ? Sep 22, 2014 17:19 |
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Suspicious Dish posted:The dark Adwaita theme is only applied to multimedia apps, but you can toggle a switch in GNOME Tweak Tool to make it happen globally. but of course.
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# ? Sep 22, 2014 19:14 |
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Mr Dog posted:but minimising is kind of deprecated in GNOME 3 afaik so it's kinda lovely to work with. what? how do you deprecate minimising Mr Dog posted:also I'm rather enjoying the fact that GNOME is handling HiDPI and multitouch far better than Windows 8 is. It actually seems like it could plausibly be used on a PC that's in tablet mode, and you guys didn't even need to make some totally separate fisher price gui bolted on the side like a siamese twin in order to do it. kde does this too i have debated getting an x86 tablet just to load it up with kde and see what happens. would be cool to have a full desktop browser in an ipad form factor
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# ? Sep 22, 2014 21:30 |
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Mr Dog posted:oh, neat. I meant to say that I don't mind having media apps using the dark theme and having everything else using the bright theme. It kinda makes sense, somehow. I'm assuming you mean Empathy. Epiphany is the browser, Empathy is the chat app. I'm not really a fan of either, but Empathy was never really designed. Chat should be a background service, but Telepathy loving sucks and is for losers. Mr Dog posted:but then i guess that's easy to do when gnome 3 has like no third party software whatsoever i can't think of a single application that uses the current gnome 3 design language that isn't part of gnome 3. The Yorba apps: Geary, Shotwell, California We're talking with the Elementary team about merging HIGs, since we're very similar in that regard. Elementary would become third-party apps for GNOME, and GNOME apps would become third-party apps for Elementary.
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:The problem with Ubuntu isn't a matter of taste. It's not that I don't like Unity, or I have bad feelings about Shuttleworth, or that the logo doesn't agree with me. It's much more fundamental: The Ubuntu model for development is broken.
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ShadowHawk posted:If your standard for "supported" is "was uploaded to debian at some point long ago and then forgotten" or "is actively maintained by paid canonical professionals" then you have a double standard hth debian has a real problem with abandoned packages -- no maintainer. there are hundreds of packages in this lamentable state in ubuntu, they are the vast majority of the packages.
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# ? Sep 22, 2014 22:49 |
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also i can't really see my way to using debian on anything but a developer desktop. the release cycle is too brutal
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# ? Sep 22, 2014 22:51 |
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:yes, abandoned packages with no maintainer are a real problem in debian By your reasoning an Ubuntu developer who is supporting his package on Ubuntu and makes it work by this process would count as "unsupported" in Ubuntu and "supported" in Debian.
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