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MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




Baronjutter posted:

I mean dwarf fortress is actually a very cpu intensive game and it basically has no graphics.

You're not wrong, but DF is a terrible example because Toady is a self-taught programmer who never bothered to learn how to actually do things and it's well known to be horrifically put together.

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bonds0097
Oct 23, 2010

I would cry but I don't think I can spare the moisture.
Pillbug

MikeJF posted:

You're not wrong, but DF is a terrible example because Toady is a self-taught programmer who never bothered to learn how to actually do things and it's well known to be horrifically put together.

Sure, but the CPU-intensive nature of simulation games is well-established. Look at Gnomoria or Rimworld or what have you. Games with lots of variables and real-time calculations (that don't involve drawing things on the screen) are by definition CPU-bound. What would be really interesting is if a game like Dwarf Fortress, with minimal graphics, took advantage of the GPU by offloading some calculations to it, leveraging CUDA or Mantle or whatever.

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...

bonds0097 posted:

Sure, but the CPU-intensive nature of simulation games is well-established. Look at Gnomoria or Rimworld or what have you. Games with lots of variables and real-time calculations (that don't involve drawing things on the screen) are by definition CPU-bound. What would be really interesting is if a game like Dwarf Fortress, with minimal graphics, took advantage of the GPU by offloading some calculations to it, leveraging CUDA or Mantle or whatever.

There's the low-hanging fruit of not making DF be some sort of shambling coding horror which would probably do wonders.

Hell, I'd be happy if there was an API for DF to let people write their own graphics interface, so that we could get actual 3D graphics, which frankly wouldn't be that hard, instead of making everything be an OpenGL driven sprite.

bonds0097
Oct 23, 2010

I would cry but I don't think I can spare the moisture.
Pillbug

Volmarias posted:

There's the low-hanging fruit of not making DF be some sort of shambling coding horror which would probably do wonders.

Hell, I'd be happy if there was an API for DF to let people write their own graphics interface, so that we could get actual 3D graphics, which frankly wouldn't be that hard, instead of making everything be an OpenGL driven sprite.

Don't the latest versions of Stonesense do this?

Iunnrais
Jul 25, 2007

It's gaelic.

Volmarias posted:

Hell, I'd be happy if there was an API for DF to let people write their own graphics interface, so that we could get actual 3D graphics, which frankly wouldn't be that hard, instead of making everything be an OpenGL driven sprite.

This exists already. It's called "DFHack", and it works EXACTLY like an API.

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




DFHack lets you pull the current state of the game for display purposes, but it doesn't contain interface and control hooks, sadly. You still have to actually play through the main window controls and horrifying menus.

anselm_eickhoff
Mar 2, 2014

aeplay.co
No Update Today!

I was busy with travel preparations today and got stuck with a geometry problem in my code, so I didn't make enough progress to show something.

I will make an update when I have something!
Thanks for your understanding

crabrock
Aug 2, 2002

I

AM

MAGNIFICENT






anselm_eickhoff posted:

Thanks for your understanding

this is quite the assumption :mad:

Zaodai
May 23, 2009

Death before dishonor?
Your terms are accepted.


anselm_eickhoff posted:

I got stuck with a geometry problem in my code,

Geometry is for squares. :colbert:

:v:

Jamfrost
Jul 20, 2013

I'm too busy thinkin' about my baby. Oh I ain't got time for nothin' else.
Slime TrainerS
^^:colbert:

anselm_eickhoff posted:

got stuck with a geometry problem in my code

You just need to approach the problem from the right angle.

DarkSol
May 18, 2006

Gee, I wish we had one of them doomsday machines.

Zaodai posted:

Geometry is for squares. :colbert:

:v:

Jamfrost posted:

You just need to approach the problem from the right angle.

You two need to quit being so obtuse. :cheeky:

Galaga Galaxian
Apr 23, 2009

What a childish tactic!
Don't you think you should put more thought into your battleplan?!


I am diametrically opposed to this punnery. :colbert:

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

That's a-cute pun.

nimper
Jun 19, 2003

livin' in a hopium den
Let's not go off on a tangent of geometry puns.

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.
I haddock when this happens.

(did I do it right?)

Hermsgervørden
Apr 23, 2004
Møøse Trainer

Zaodai posted:

Geometry is for squares. :colbert:

:v:


Jamfrost posted:

^^:colbert:


You just need to approach the problem from the right angle.


Galaga Galaxian posted:

I am diametrically opposed to this punnery. :colbert:


Baronjutter posted:

That's a-cute pun.


nimper posted:

Let's not go off on a tangent of geometry puns.


DarkSol posted:

You two need to quit being so obtuse. :cheeky:

Why can't all of you just be normal?

DarkSol
May 18, 2006

Gee, I wish we had one of them doomsday machines.

Hermsgervørden posted:

Why can't all of you just be normal?

I prefer being quite irrational, thank you very much. :colbert:

Jamfrost
Jul 20, 2013

I'm too busy thinkin' about my baby. Oh I ain't got time for nothin' else.
Slime TrainerS

Hermsgervørden posted:

Why can't all of you just be normal?

I might be normal, but I don't have proof.

StealthArcher
Jan 10, 2010




poo poo got real in this thread right here.

anselm_eickhoff
Mar 2, 2014

aeplay.co
These geometry puns are a cancer to this thread. (Okay, okay, that's hyperbolic)

Also: Today (10/2) I'll be doing a MacBook Test Livestream at 1PM UTC

Jamfrost
Jul 20, 2013

I'm too busy thinkin' about my baby. Oh I ain't got time for nothin' else.
Slime TrainerS

anselm_eickhoff posted:

These geometry puns are a cancer to this thread. (Okay, okay, that's hyperbolic)

The parabolas on this guy.

Hopefully the test is/was successful.

anselm_eickhoff
Mar 2, 2014

aeplay.co
New Update! The Road to Alpha, Week 30 - New Place!

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

If movies have taught my anything, the tint in this video means you are in mexico, regardless of the tea hint. But I guess you're in England? Or maybe china? You gotta give us more than that wall! Some furniture, a small view out a window, anything.

Hermsgervørden
Apr 23, 2004
Møøse Trainer

I'm full of Ire regarding my inability to guess where you've landed.

ScottyWired
Jan 30, 2014

Don't believe in yourself. Believe in the Kamina who believes in you. u suk
A lot of tea?

Russia.

nimper
Jun 19, 2003

livin' in a hopium den

ScottyWired posted:

A lot of tea?

Russia.

India :colbert:

vodkat
Jun 30, 2012



cannot legally be sold as vodka
Drinks lots of tea, no day light, small cramped looking room, terrible internet speeds? It must be my beloved blighty :britain:

Ofaloaf
Feb 15, 2013

What if it's sweet tea?

Fermented Tinal
Aug 25, 2005

by Pragmatica

Ofaloaf posted:

What if it's sweet tea?

Nobody would ever willingly move to the Southern US from a foreign country.

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

I know I'm always going on about how essential it is to include parking in any city sim, and how it's probably the #1 or #2 factor that influences how a city looks and develops, but here's some urban planners upset about it too.
http://www.humantransit.org/2013/05/how-sim-city-greenwashes-parking.html

Avenging Dentist
Oct 1, 2005

oh my god is that a circular saw that does not go in my mouth aaaaagh

Baronjutter posted:

I know I'm always going on about how essential it is to include parking in any city sim, and how it's probably the #1 or #2 factor that influences how a city looks and develops, but here's some urban planners upset about it too.
http://www.humantransit.org/2013/05/how-sim-city-greenwashes-parking.html

Wow, somehow this blog post seems even more petulant than when a nerd just starts getting into computers and gets a big hate-on for stuff like Hackers because it's not "realistic". But yes in this case I'm sure it's all a conspiracy against urban planning!!

At least in the Hackers case the nerd is probably like 12 years old and will hopefully grow out of it soon.

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.
That is classic Angry About Cities.

I like the bit near the end where he bemoans unrealistic simulations as teaching people wrong things about how the real world works and therefore leads them to interact with the world incorrectly. Maybe I've been parking wrong my whole life!

WithoutTheFezOn
Aug 28, 2005
Oh no
Clearly a plot by Big ... umm... Big Suburb?

SolidSnakesBandana
Jul 1, 2007

Infinite ammo

KKKlean Energy posted:

where he bemoans unrealistic simulations as teaching people wrong things about how the real world works and therefore leads them to interact with the world incorrectly

Will Wright has been secretly plotting the downfall of mankind since day loving one.

anselm_eickhoff
Mar 2, 2014

aeplay.co
New Update: The Road to Alpha, Week 31 - New Place, For Real!

Poil
Mar 17, 2007

I still think Austria is the correct answer. But that wouldn't require a new language, I think. Italy then?

Kamrat
Nov 27, 2012

Thanks for playing Alone in the dark 2.

Now please fuck off
^^^
Austria is a landlocked country so that wouldn't be it.

Turkey maybe, they drink a lot of tea over there.

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

He's in the non-german speaking coast of Austria, in a place that likes tea.

It might be somewhere really far off, like China.

Arnold of Soissons
Mar 4, 2011

by XyloJW
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WirelessPillow
Jan 12, 2012

Look Ma, no wires!
Sounds to me like he is in France.

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