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The Monkey Man posted:Does the word "heel" come from "shitheel"? Heel was a more common slang term in the early 20th century than it is now. It just meant 'bad guy', really, and the (inside) term has stuck since.
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Here's something I've been wondering in the era of heavily-scripted promos that all sound the same...what happened? During the Attitude era, and for a few years afterward, it seemed Vince realized that people being allowed to ad-lib and get themselves over was best for business. Now, not only are most wrestlers being told to recite every word that has been typed out for them, but those to do improvise or use social media to get themselves over end up punished. It's insane.
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Oct 2, 2014 20:11
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Scripted promos are safe, ad-libbing is risky. WWE has no direct competition, so they might as well go with the safe option.
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Oct 2, 2014 20:32
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Is there a master list of old PPV threads? Was wanting to look at the SummerSlam 2010 thread for some reason, but can't seem to find it.
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Oct 2, 2014 20:53
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Didn't a leaked script have word-by-word promos for everybody, except Sandow's segment was just "Sandow antagonizes the crowd"?
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Oct 2, 2014 21:00
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Shine posted:Didn't a leaked script have word-by-word promos for everybody, except Sandow's segment was just "Sandow antagonizes the crowd"? I think the only people allowed to improvise at this point are Rock, Cena, Heyman, Punk, Sandow, Wyatt and Ambrose.
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Oct 2, 2014 21:08
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Pope Corky the IX posted:I think the only people allowed to improvise at this point are Rock, Cena, Heyman, Punk, Sandow, Wyatt and Ambrose. They should let gold and stardust on that list
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Oct 2, 2014 21:09
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Pope Corky the IX posted:I think the only people allowed to improvise at this point are Rock, Cena, Heyman, Punk, Sandow, Wyatt and Ambrose. Heyman's promos are usually written out in leaked scripts but he probably writes them anyway and goes off-script anyway Jericho also throws in improvised lines for better or worse
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Oct 2, 2014 21:25
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Fag Boy Jim posted:Is there a master list of old PPV threads? Was wanting to look at the SummerSlam 2010 thread for some reason, but can't seem to find it. I'll look more later tonight if time permits, but I'm pretty sure the Summerfest 2010 thread is linked somewhere in this thread.
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Pope Corky the IX posted:I think the only people allowed to improvise at this point are Rock, Cena, Heyman, Punk, Sandow, Wyatt and Ambrose. Rock and Wyatt both have guys that write out most of their material. It's a safe bet Ambrose does too unless reported otherwise. The problem isnt scripted promos it's characters not consistently having their own voice. oatgan fucked around with this message at 21:46 on Oct 2, 2014 |
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Oct 2, 2014 21:43
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oatgan posted:Rock and Wyatt both have guys that write out most of their material Why? All Rock has to do is string together phrases of his past promos inserting the name of the new guy
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Oct 2, 2014 21:45
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After seeing Michael Hayes in another one of his ridiculous Big Bird suits in the picture threat, it got me thinking about what are some of stupidest Michael Hayes stories from backstage? So far, I can think of the following: - Getting drunk at a Wrestlemania party and mouthing off to Mark Henry(?) about him being more black than Henry will ever be. - Claiming that after HBK's final match, he sat alone in a room with HBK and Undertaker while they all cried together for 30 minutes straight. - Dressing like a 14 year old kid from 1999 when he managed the Hardys, complete with silky shirt and Jncos. I know there are a ton more, what is everyone favorite stupid Michael Hayes Moment?
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Oct 2, 2014 22:25
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Havoc904 posted:After seeing Michael Hayes in another one of his ridiculous Big Bird suits in the picture threat, it got me thinking about what are some of stupidest Michael Hayes stories from backstage? Causing Rosa Mendes to relapse.
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Oct 2, 2014 22:27
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Fag Boy Jim posted:Is there a master list of old PPV threads? Was wanting to look at the SummerSlam 2010 thread for some reason, but can't seem to find it. This has been accidentally bookmarked in a wrong folder for like 4 years now, glad it came in handy! http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3339039&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=1 Also it's in a random subforum of FYAD, what.
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Oct 2, 2014 22:51
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How was Eugene allowed to do the Stunner/Rock Bottom/People's Elbow as finishers? Was Stone Cold and The Rock cool with it or was it never an issue?
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Probably because he wasnt a threat to either of them and there was no way hell he would have a legit shot at the main event other than comedy jobber.
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keevo posted:How was Eugene allowed to do the Stunner/Rock Bottom/People's Elbow as finishers? Was Stone Cold and The Rock cool with it or was it never an issue? He didn't know better.
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Oct 2, 2014 23:26
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Nick_326 posted:September 23 or something, but it was also on this week's RAW and WWE were wise enough to put it on their channel: I hadn't realized before how well the 3MB riff fits into Titus's theme's beat. It works surprisingly much better than most of the mashups they've ever tried for makeshift tag teams. I also like that the video is like 50% wrestling and 50% backstage antics.
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sticklefifer posted:I hadn't realized before how well the 3MB riff fits into Titus's theme's beat. It works surprisingly much better than most of the mashups they've ever tried for makeshift tag teams. Please let Darren Young be in their stable. Or at least feud with them so he can call Titus out for being unable to make it without a goofy fun tag team partner after all his big talk when he broke up PTP.
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Oct 2, 2014 23:44
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Havoc904 posted:After seeing Michael Hayes in another one of his ridiculous Big Bird suits in the picture threat, it got me thinking about what are some of stupidest Michael Hayes stories from backstage? Michael Hayes getting drunk/high during the 2002 Plane Ride from Hell and nearly pissing on Linda McMahon because he thought he was in the plane's bathroom.
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Justin Godscock posted:Michael Hayes getting drunk/high during the 2002 Plane Ride from Hell and nearly pissing on Linda McMahon because he thought he was in the plane's bathroom. he also started a fight with Bradshaw and X-Pac cut off his mullet after he passed out
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oatgan posted:he also started a fight with Bradshaw and X-Pac cut off his mullet after he passed out I remember when the Plane Ride From Hell went down. The small tidbits of info leaking out bit by bit was glorious. 
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Oct 3, 2014 01:56
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What actually is this? I've seen it mentioned but never with any details.
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Pinstripe Hourglass posted:What actually is this? I've seen it mentioned but never with any details. Here's a good summary.
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Pope Corky the IX posted:I think the only people allowed to improvise at this point are Rock, Cena, Heyman, Punk, Sandow, Wyatt and Ambrose. i think it's not a matter of being "allowed" to improvise as much as some people can't or just don't
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Oct 3, 2014 03:18
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Any time they want to do a promo, they should just have Sandow come out dressed like the wrestler who will be giving the promo and do it for them. A stunt promo, if you will.
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Oct 3, 2014 03:58
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Havoc904 posted:After seeing Michael Hayes in another one of his ridiculous Big Bird suits in the picture threat, it got me thinking about what are some of stupidest Michael Hayes stories from backstage? Freebird Road. It sucks they took it down.
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bobkatt013 posted:Freebird Road. It sucks they took it down. He literally danced on Terry Gordy's grave
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I still wonder what the hell Sandow's deal is where he's a jobber to rival Zack Ryder, but is still apparently trusted enough to be practically the only guy in the scripts to have his segments read "Sandow does stuff."
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DeathChicken posted:I still wonder what the hell Sandow's deal is where he's a jobber to rival Zack Ryder, but is still apparently trusted enough to be practically the only guy in the scripts to have his segments read "Sandow does stuff." It looks like they want to make him a manager and he's pretty good at it if he can make me want to watch Miz matches.
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I think they recognize Sandow's talent as a talker and improviser. Watching him live, he's constantly doing hilarious "in-character" stuff even when it's clear he's not on camera. I could see Sandow being a fantastic manager or even heel announcer.
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Yesss if they replaced JBL with Sandow Raw would improve 300%. Aww that would be perfect. Does anyone else do Batista's machine gun entrance to dry themselves after they have a shower?
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Alan_Shore posted:Yesss if they replaced JBL with Sandow Raw would improve 300%. Aww that would be perfect. Maybe briefly. JBL was really good during his run on Smackdown years ago... would Vince have been as much in his ear then, or would he have left Smackdown alone? I remember Foley complaining about Vince during his brief turn as a Smackdown announcer, but that was a bit later... I like Sandow, but I get the sense that anyone on the Raw commentary team has a thankless job that it is difficult to excel at under the circumstances.
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Alan_Shore posted:Yesss if they replaced JBL with Sandow Raw would improve 300%. Aww that would be perfect. No but I release the doves whenever I pee at a public urinal
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Oct 3, 2014 07:00
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oatgan posted:Rock and Wyatt both have guys that write out most of their material. It's a safe bet Ambrose does too unless reported otherwise. There's absolutely nothing wrong with the idea of writing out promos ahead of time, but not everybody should say "quite frankly", which is really noticeable when you start looking for it.
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Alan_Shore posted:Does anyone else do Batista's machine gun entrance to dry themselves after they have a shower? No, but I do the Lesnar Dance every chance I get.
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Oct 3, 2014 07:05
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Machine gun, Lesnar dance, release the doves, yes yes yes, even the thing the Miz does, all fun to do, especially in public. Wrestling is fun.
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Top Bunk Wanker posted:There's absolutely nothing wrong with the idea of writing out promos ahead of time, but not everybody should say "quite frankly", which is really noticeable when you start looking for it. Y'see Top Bunk Wanker, the thing about that is...
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From a report about Stephanie McMahon's and Mr Stephanie's wedding.quote:Later, Michael Hayes made a complete jackass of himself. He got on the mic and started singing his own rendition of "Jailhouse Rock". He tried to get on the stage again, but then the band, who was really annoyed already, stopped playing music. So Hayes decided to make his own little speech. "Steph and Hunter," he said. "I mean Steph and Paul" Then he just started swearing on stage trying to be funny, but Linda McMahon walked up on stage and took the mic saying "Thank you, Michael." As his wife took him upstairs, Hayes kept yelling, "A Freebird is a Freebird!" This left people feeling bad and many thought the whole thing was ruined, but everyone went on with the party. Michael Hayes is a jackass. Also the exact quote for the Mark Henry thing is "I'm more of a friend of the family than you!"
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Gonzo McFee posted:Also the exact quote for the Mark Henry thing is "I'm more of a friend of the family than you!" But he's allowed to say it because he knows black people.
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