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snyprmag
Oct 9, 2005

Profondo Rosso posted:

I'm genuinely interested in this as most earlier stuff I've heard is pretty thug or positive with the exception of maybe like some anticon stuff or sage Francis. Who else makes opressivly negative rap?

Edit: I really like devil rap or really most stuff like that but it's still pretty full of braggadocio but that's still pretty much gangster rap and not really self critical
Z-Ro is the kind of sad rap. Noz's mix is a great introduction to his stuff: http://www.cocaineblunts.com/blunts/?p=927
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAgbsOqyHtw

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Punkin Spunkin
Jan 1, 2010

Profondo Rosso posted:

I'm genuinely interested in this as most earlier stuff I've heard is pretty thug or positive with the exception of maybe like some anticon stuff or sage Francis. Who else makes opressivly negative rap?

Edit: I really like devil rap or really most stuff like that but it's still pretty full of braggadocio but that's still pretty much gangster rap and not really self critical
I'd just maybe add Shyne, I don't think anyone mentioned him. Godfather Buried Alive is a pretty cool album, and Shyne tends to have a lot of nihilistic/dark/suicidal/doomed vibes in his gangsta rap at times.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUnFcRGL8SQ
It's an album made in the middle of his ten year jail sentence, so it's bound to have some oppressive vibes. Too bad he became super weird and lovely out of jail though.

tjones
May 13, 2005
I'd say the Life of Joseph McVey would be the best introduction to his content. It stands still as the best effort Z-Ro put out that I know of. I haven't checked for him in a long time, but Life still to this day gets played all the way through on a constant basis.

Budget Prefuse
Sep 26, 2011

quote:

Semen on her stomach
That's a second coming, Jesus

quote:

If your man don't want to lick it I volunteer as tribute
You niggas on them Hunger Games, I eat them O's like onion rings
I kill them hoes so constantly

quote:

gently caress with your boy like a pedophile
:cripes:

Budget Prefuse
Sep 26, 2011

Please Don't Listen To The New Gambino Mixtape

temple
Jul 29, 2006

I have actual skeletons in my closet
Gambino Season
edit: The tape is solid. His flows are solid.

ThatBasqueGuy
Feb 14, 2013

someone introduce jojo to lazyb


So basically pass if you're not already a fan?

spoils
Nov 2, 2012

Ehh not really that bad and 100x better than he used to be on Camp or any of his early stuff. Production is pretty great on the tape and his lyrics and flow are at least varied and sort of interesting
New Asap Rocky
http://flackojodyeseason.com/

HorseRenoir
Dec 25, 2011



Pillbug
Listened to the new Gambino tape. It reminded me of most of his other non-BTI stuff in that it just felt like a boring, store-brand version of something that was already popular (in this case, the "new Atlanta" sound). I have no idea why I would want to listen to this tape when I could listen to Honest or 1017 Thug or one of a billion Gucci tapes and get something similar but better. His R&B/"serious" stuff reminds me too much of Drake and Frank Ocean, but at least it's a lane he sounds more interesting in. Honestly the only thing this tape made me want to do is bump that Rich Gang tape again.

Also, I'm happy that ASAP is back but the new track is kind of boring. But maybe I've just been listening to Ferg for too long

HorseRenoir fucked around with this message at 06:07 on Oct 3, 2014

temple
Jul 29, 2006

I have actual skeletons in my closet

spoils posted:

Ehh not really that bad and 100x better than he used to be on Camp or any of his early stuff. Production is pretty great on the tape and his lyrics and flow are at least varied and sort of interesting
New Asap Rocky
http://flackojodyeseason.com/
Its a decent song but like everything else he does. I wouldn't say Rocky makes bad music but his style doesn't have any energy.

t a s t e
Sep 6, 2010

temple posted:

Its a decent song but like everything else he does. I wouldn't say Rocky makes bad music but his style doesn't have any energy.

Yeah. I'm a Rocky stan and this didn't excite me except that he'll have a new album

Quantum of Phallus
Dec 27, 2010

spoils posted:

Ehh not really that bad and 100x better than he used to be on Camp or any of his early stuff.

Wouldn't be hard, Camp is total garbage.

Tetramin
Apr 1, 2006

I'ma buck you up.

Profondo Rosso posted:

I'm genuinely interested in this as most earlier stuff I've heard is pretty thug or positive with the exception of maybe like some anticon stuff or sage Francis. Who else makes opressivly negative rap?

Edit: I really like devil rap or really most stuff like that but it's still pretty full of braggadocio but that's still pretty much gangster rap and not really self critical

you mentioned anticon but this is a p sad album that i really like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwGnpIX1I0M

that 'sad boys' poo poo seems really clowny and forced who even makes that their gimmick if it's gonna be forced at least make it funny

Lancelot
May 23, 2006

Fun Shoe
New Tink! https://soundcloud.com/tink_g/tink-sounds-good

The production is pretty great too, though I feel like the slow chorus kills the momentum. It's not going to convince dudes who hate women rapping who aren't Nicki Minaj.

tuyop
Sep 15, 2006

Every second that we're not growing BASIL is a second wasted

Fun Shoe

Lancelot posted:

New Tink! https://soundcloud.com/tink_g/tink-sounds-good

The production is pretty great too, though I feel like the slow chorus kills the momentum. It's not going to convince dudes who hate women rapping who aren't Nicki Minaj.

I thought that was what Dessa and Angel Haze were for.

alansmithee
Jan 25, 2007

Goodness no, now that wouldn't do at all!


Quantum of Phallus posted:

Wouldn't be hard, Camp is total garbage.

I've never understood how a dude who's supposedly really funny and clever in his comedy writing is this incompetent at writing raps. Like the Lonely Island dudes are better rappers than him ("I'm on a boat" is a better rap song than anything donglover has made, or will ever make). Like his original stuff wasn't good, but it wasn't offensive. But then dudes didn't take his joke rap career serious enough and he released camp and it's been variations on garbage since then.

Yuzenn
Mar 31, 2011

Be weary when you see oppression disguised as progression

The Spirit told me to use discernment and a Smith n Wesson at my discretion

Practice heavy self reflection, avoid self deception
If you lost, get re-direction

spoils posted:

Ehh not really that bad and 100x better than he used to be on Camp or any of his early stuff. Production is pretty great on the tape and his lyrics and flow are at least varied and sort of interesting
New Asap Rocky
http://flackojodyeseason.com/

At this point you aren't going to get people who aren't already fans of Gambino to change their minds because of this mixtape. If you like him you'll like the mixtape, but its free music so who cares? Plus the first drat track uses the Southern Hospitality beat and its a DJ loving DRAMA mixtape.

Flying Lotus Ft. Kendrick Lamar https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lXD0vv-ds8 not sure I like this Andre 3 stacks version of Kendrick, but his contribution to the track isn't terrible.

Ludacris Hot Nigga Remix https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lqi2C9gfcfA this beat has to be the best of the year (well I guess of 2012 technically?) and I never get tired of it. Ludacris has still got it, but I don't know if I wanna hear anything from him outside of a track feature these days.....

Joe Budden Ft Tsu Surf and Ransom http://rapradar.com/2014/10/01/new-music-joe-budden-ft-tsu-surf-x-ransom-nothing-changes/ I fucks with Tsu Surf's battle raps and he's from my stomping grounds, but I didn't like him on this track. He's been hit or miss for me and I always worry about these battle rap cats translating onto records. It's great hearing Joe Budden and Ransom rap together again, maybe one day someone can find whatever rock Hitchcock is under and we can reunite the A-Team. (It can be just like what M.O.P is to G-Unit)

And I really love that new ASAP Rocky track, and a lot of it is just being an ex new yorker homer, especially with them being in my neighborhood train terminal for half the video. The track bangs, and will definitely get a lot of listening from me.

You guys see the Cadillactica track list? http://rapradar.com/2014/10/02/big-k-r-i-t-cadillactica-cover-tracklist/ this is one album I had to preorder right away, Big KRIT really showed and proved to me and won me over gradually. This album is going to be great, Mt. Olympus is an absolute classic.

Yuzenn fucked around with this message at 19:21 on Oct 3, 2014

Quantum of Phallus
Dec 27, 2010

The beat/ song structure on that new A$AP Rocky is verrrry weird.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5v6JUzxWoGw

Crumbletron
Jul 21, 2006



IT'S YOUR BOY JESUS, MANE
Lac Lac is still gonna be best on the album despite being a bonus because Ferg

Kenshin
Jan 10, 2007
Strange Music just posted a new Stevie Stone/Rittz/Tech N9ne track.

https://soundcloud.com/strangemusicinc-official/stevie-stone-the-baptism-feat

I know they aren't super popular around here but they are very good at consistently high-value production these days.

bef
Mar 2, 2010

by Nyc_Tattoo

Quantum of Phallus posted:

The beat/ song structure on that new A$AP Rocky is verrrry weird.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5v6JUzxWoGw

I dig it

temple posted:

Gambino Season
edit: The tape is solid. His flows are solid.

Late Night in Kauai ft Jaden Smith (DatPiff Exclusive)

Punkin Spunkin
Jan 1, 2010

alansmithee posted:

I've never understood how a dude who's supposedly really funny and clever in his comedy writing is this incompetent at writing raps. Like the Lonely Island dudes are better rappers than him
Yup:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N24fVEJyQKM

Gregor Samsa
Sep 5, 2007
Nietzsche's Mustache
Sup y'all

Bout to see Action Bronson and partysupplies for free in NYC.

Anyway, good talk. Peace.

Robert Analog
Feb 16, 2008

shyah
That new Rocky is good and like 2 weeks ago this thread acted like he'd fallen off harder than Ja-rule smh

Boywhiz88
Sep 11, 2005

floating 26" off da ground. BURR!

Robert Analog posted:

That new Rocky is good and like 2 weeks ago this thread acted like he'd fallen off harder than Ja-rule smh

It's not that it's bad, but it lacks energy like people were saying. That's frustrating too because he can make songs with energy, Peso, Bass, and Wild for the Night come to mind. His feature on Shabba Ranks is fantastic. This has a great beat, a good flow, a decent hook, but it doesn't actually make you want to jam out. At least, that's kind of how I feel and what I suspect others may agree on.

bows1
May 16, 2004

Chill, whale, chill
Outkast shows are depressing. Impossible to get near the stage, but no one moves unless it's Hey Ya, Ma Jackson, or BoB. If that.

im gay
Jul 20, 2013

by Lowtax
yughhh new Bones https://soundcloud.com/misxgi/eyesclosed

the production :goat:

ruddiger
Jun 3, 2004

That new Mikey Rocks track is straight fire and I hope dude loving blows up. Banco seems like it's being slept on which is a drat shame.

Tolkien minority
Feb 14, 2012


Thanks for the sad rap retrospective I got alotta stuff to check out.

I somehow missed when this video came out a bit over a week ago but it's really loving good. Never heard of anyone on this track but makkonen and as a pretty big fan of his I'm surprised to say he's prob the least interesting part of the song despite giving a pretty solid verse. The hook is seriously channeling drake though lol

http://youtu.be/XREugU4qTB4

Slackerish
Jan 1, 2007

Hail Boognish

Quantum of Phallus posted:

The beat/ song structure on that new A$AP Rocky is verrrry weird.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5v6JUzxWoGw

I know this isn't the case but it almost sounds like each verse is a preview of a different song from whatever his upcoming album is

40 lbs to freedom
Apr 13, 2007

what does rocky have against hba

7 RING SHRIMP
Oct 3, 2012

They probably weren't cutting him any checks just giving him free clothes and poo poo

7 RING SHRIMP
Oct 3, 2012

I just listened to it for the first time and I really like it

bows1
May 16, 2004

Chill, whale, chill
I thought he was for HBA and against Been Trill? Only listened to it once when I was hungover so I could be mistaken.

Wezlar
May 13, 2005



bows1 posted:

I thought he was for HBA and against Been Trill? Only listened to it once when I was hungover so I could be mistaken.

He is against both.

I like the song it is cool.

GentlemanofLeisure
Aug 27, 2008

spoils posted:

Ehh not really that bad and 100x better than he used to be on Camp or any of his early stuff. Production is pretty great on the tape and his lyrics and flow are at least varied and sort of interesting
New Asap Rocky
http://flackojodyeseason.com/
Why does he shout out Pimp C so many times?

Boywhiz88
Sep 11, 2005

floating 26" off da ground. BURR!

GentlemanofLeisure posted:

Why does he shout out Pimp C so many times?

Because he's Rocky. But also, why not?

temple
Jul 29, 2006

I have actual skeletons in my closet
Because he's "trill".

thathonkey
Jul 17, 2012
I wish rocky would try as hard at rapping as he does at whatever all the other stuff going on in that song/video is

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TenaciousTomato
Jul 17, 2007

Interworld and the New Innocence
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzHzkV0G00g

ps :stare: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLhbqrlwJFLI9mGSphgf4RT9OxxXAe4xr3

TenaciousTomato fucked around with this message at 22:30 on Oct 5, 2014

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