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Opopanax
Aug 8, 2007

I HEX YE!!!


Poison Mushroom posted:

Mafia Edit:

Either there's a scum rolecop, or someone got really loving lucky, because what are the goddamn odds?

Why would scum care? If anything a bus driver is worse for town.

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Opopanax
Aug 8, 2007

I HEX YE!!!


Hmm, all of that seems odd, Pmush are you manufacturing lies? I had to wake up early for a minute and then I had turkey dinner so I am a zombie but note to self look into P-mushy

CapitalistPig
Nov 3, 2005

A Winner is you!

Opopanax posted:

Hmm, all of that seems odd, Pmush are you manufacturing lies? I had to wake up early for a minute and then I had turkey dinner so I am a zombie but note to self look into P-mushy

I think I believe her.

Opopanax
Aug 8, 2007

I HEX YE!!!


CapitalistPig posted:

I think I believe her.

About the roleblock or about the rolecop? Somber was also apparently jailed

Opopanax
Aug 8, 2007

I HEX YE!!!


Or wait, we covered that yesterday didn't we? I guess we have a jailer and an RB. I guess that's ok then.

I am so tired

death cob for cutie
Dec 30, 2006

dwarves won't delve no more
too much splatting down on Zot:4
How did someone not protect the investigator

What the gently caress happened there

God drat it guys. If you're a sheriff, for gently caress's sake don't come forward. Unless you're Tearshed. Tearshed, what have you been up to? What are your thoughts, your feelings? Grace us with your presence, fucker.

CapitalistPig posted:

I think I believe her.

I believe her, too, at least with regards to the busdriver/getting blocked part. My rear end is lucky to be alive.

tearshed
Mar 26, 2010

Leave it to me!
Man, short day yesterday. Only 12 hours.

I don't agree with the Mags lynch. If you claim poisoner, it's no different to claiming town vig. But everyone was all "HE MIGHT HIT TOWN". Well no poo poo. The investigation implied there was a 50% chance he could be the arsonist, and even then I didn't agree with voting him. But then I checked OP and it was actually a 1/3 chance and that's even more bullshit. Bad town.

I really really don't like sombers approach to everything he said about magnus and pushing the magnus lynch ##vote somber. Ras is also gut pick for maybe badguy.

Cpig is goodguy.

t a s t e
Sep 6, 2010

tearshed posted:

Man, short day yesterday. Only 12 hours.

I don't agree with the Mags lynch. If you claim poisoner, it's no different to claiming town vig. But everyone was all "HE MIGHT HIT TOWN". Well no poo poo. The investigation implied there was a 50% chance he could be the arsonist, and even then I didn't agree with voting him. But then I checked OP and it was actually a 1/3 chance and that's even more bullshit. Bad town.

I really really don't like sombers approach to everything he said about magnus and pushing the magnus lynch ##vote somber. Ras is also gut pick for maybe badguy.

Cpig is goodguy.

Magnus had major lies, which in retrospect make sense as a town play but cmon for essentially a d1 lynch you could do worse

tearshed
Mar 26, 2010

Leave it to me!

Tremendous Taste posted:

Magnus had major lies, which in retrospect make sense as a town play but cmon for essentially a d1 lynch you could do worse
You're right. Poisoner can be harmful unlike a doc or a cop or something. The lynch wasn't handled as well as it could've been, s'all.

Lampsacus
Oct 21, 2008

I felt the lynch was fair on virtue of LAL alone.

mfcrocker
Jan 31, 2004



Hot Rope Guy
I was also roleblocked last night so something weird is going on.

Opopanax
Aug 8, 2007

I HEX YE!!!


tearshed posted:

You're right. Poisoner can be harmful unlike a doc or a cop or something. The lynch wasn't handled as well as it could've been, s'all.

Very few people believed he was the poisoner, this is a super suspicious reaction

girl dick energy
Sep 30, 2009

You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?
Hm. Tearshed is trying to scold for a vote he (?) wasn't there for. I'm pretty sure a scum tearshed would know better than to draw attention to his absence like that, and especially better than to try and push a case based on it.

Gut feeling: Tearshed is self-congratulatory town.

Opopanax
Aug 8, 2007

I HEX YE!!!


Yeah, but he's misrepresenting the case against Magnus at the same time. Either he wants to scold us and had to make up a reason, or just didn't actually read what happened and went forward with his misunderstood version of events. Either way it's not really something town should be doing

mfcrocker
Jan 31, 2004



Hot Rope Guy
By the way this was the right vote yesterday and the right vote today.

##vote Epsilon Plus

tearshed
Mar 26, 2010

Leave it to me!

Opopanax posted:

Very few people believed he was the poisoner, this is a super suspicious reaction
Most people would realize that it's stupid to fakeclaim how a role works when they are all laid out in the OP. fmpov it was super obvious that if you claim a role, you are that role, even if you don't know how it works exactly. i.e. mags must be poisoner (and poisoner is only a town role)

Poison Mushroom posted:

Hm. Tearshed is trying to scold for a vote he (?) wasn't there for. I'm pretty sure a scum tearshed would know better than to draw attention to his absence like that, and especially better than to try and push a case based on it.

Gut feeling: Tearshed is self-congratulatory town.
The day was 12 hours long and I felt the need to write about it because I felt like I missed out.

Opopanax
Aug 8, 2007

I HEX YE!!!


tearshed posted:

Most people would realize that it's stupid to fakeclaim how a role works when they are all laid out in the OP. fmpov it was super obvious that if you claim a role, you are that role, even if you don't know how it works exactly. i.e. mags must be poisoner (and poisoner is only a town role)


Well it's too bad you weren't here because we came up with several plausible explanations for that

Rascyc
Jan 23, 2008

Dissatisfied Puppy

tearshed posted:

Man, short day yesterday. Only 12 hours.

I don't agree with the Mags lynch. If you claim poisoner, it's no different to claiming town vig. But everyone was all "HE MIGHT HIT TOWN". Well no poo poo. The investigation implied there was a 50% chance he could be the arsonist, and even then I didn't agree with voting him. But then I checked OP and it was actually a 1/3 chance and that's even more bullshit. Bad town.

I really really don't like sombers approach to everything he said about magnus and pushing the magnus lynch ##vote somber. Ras is also gut pick for maybe badguy.

Cpig is goodguy.
You don't claim town vig before you fire your gun though, that's pretty standard. We also had a cultist flip before then so the chance argument isn't really valid either. The investigation claim wasn't even needed, I don't even know why he claimed.

The Somber read is valid but he was juggling Epsilon before that though, if he just wanted to push a lynch he could have just gotten Epsilon lynched probably. Then again after Somber's play in Adventuria, his play style does appear to be spammy/push multiple things at once. Not going to condemn someone for that though on d2.

Rascyc
Jan 23, 2008

Dissatisfied Puppy

Poison Mushroom posted:

Mafia Edit:

Either there's a scum rolecop, or someone got really loving lucky, because what are the goddamn odds?
scum can't have a rolecop according to the OP, what do you mean by feeling lucky?

girl dick energy
Sep 30, 2009

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Rascyc posted:

scum can't have a rolecop according to the OP, what do you mean by feeling lucky?
Lucky/unlucky, as in hitting the person who was going to protect the NK.

But now we have three people claiming to have been roleblocked, so I don't know what the gently caress.

Opopanax
Aug 8, 2007

I HEX YE!!!


Looking at the roles it is a possible configuration, town jailer, town RB, and scum RB.

CapitalistPig
Nov 3, 2005

A Winner is you!

Opopanax posted:

Looking at the roles it is a possible configuration, town jailer, town RB, and scum RB.

That's the likeliest answer for three rbs.

That many jail/rbs will make for a locked down game, like a recent cyor I can remember. Man that was too many jailers.

Somberbrero
Feb 14, 2009

ꜱʜʀɪᴍᴘ?
Epsilon's outrage over tithin's death is overdone and manufactured. I am confused as to why more people are not picking up on this.

##vote Epsilon

death cob for cutie
Dec 30, 2006

dwarves won't delve no more
too much splatting down on Zot:4
It's less outrage and more of an incredulous giggle but whatever arms your crusade I guess

Opopanax
Aug 8, 2007

I HEX YE!!!


Epsilon Plus posted:

How did someone not protect the investigator

What the gently caress happened there

God drat it guys. If you're a sheriff, for gently caress's sake don't come forward. Unless you're Tearshed. Tearshed, what have you been up to? What are your thoughts, your feelings? Grace us with your presence, fucker.


I believe her, too, at least with regards to the busdriver/getting blocked part. My rear end is lucky to be alive.

Epsilon was pretty fakey yesterday with the Magnus stuff, but this seems innocuous enough

mfcrocker
Jan 31, 2004



Hot Rope Guy

Opopanax posted:

Epsilon was pretty fakey yesterday with the Magnus stuff, but this seems innocuous enough

Epsilon has been scummy for most of the game so far and that post is nowhere near innocuous?

Opopanax
Aug 8, 2007

I HEX YE!!!


Reads fine to me

Somberbrero
Feb 14, 2009

ꜱʜʀɪᴍᴘ?

Epsilon Plus posted:

It's less outrage and more of an incredulous giggle but whatever arms your crusade I guess

'Crusade' is silly hyperbole. Who is scum, Epsilon?

girl dick energy
Sep 30, 2009

You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?
If yesterday didn't prove to you that EP was newbie scum, then his response to even a little bit of pressure should.

mfcrocker
Jan 31, 2004



Hot Rope Guy

Opopanax posted:

Reads fine to me

A massive blowup of "anger" that the investigator wasn't protected doesn't seem off to you at all? Even after multiple roleblock claims?

It's manufactured as gently caress and you calling it as fine is fishy as hell too.

Opopanax
Aug 8, 2007

I HEX YE!!!


:shrug: it looks like a newbie post to me, independent of alignment. I do agree EP was fake yesterday

death cob for cutie
Dec 30, 2006

dwarves won't delve no more
too much splatting down on Zot:4

Somberbrero posted:

'Crusade' is silly hyperbole. Who is scum, Epsilon?

Enemies of the Communist Party.

If you want me to actually analyze people and make a case to present to you, it'll need to wait; I work until about midnight EST assuming no weirdness at my job. Please do not brutally lynch me beforehand!

death cob for cutie
Dec 30, 2006

dwarves won't delve no more
too much splatting down on Zot:4
Who I Think Should Die, Or At The Very Least Who Should Apologize Profusely, a book by Epsilon Plus

Tearshed:

tearshed posted:

Man, short day yesterday. Only 12 hours.

I don't agree with the Mags lynch. If you claim poisoner, it's no different to claiming town vig. But everyone was all "HE MIGHT HIT TOWN". Well no poo poo. The investigation implied there was a 50% chance he could be the arsonist, and even then I didn't agree with voting him. But then I checked OP and it was actually a 1/3 chance and that's even more bullshit. Bad town.

I really really don't like sombers approach to everything he said about magnus and pushing the magnus lynch ##vote somber. Ras is also gut pick for maybe badguy.

Cpig is goodguy.

Tearshed is barely posting and the one post of serious importance is disagreeing with Somberbrero, who made a lot of very good points and who was probably the main reason Magnus was lynched so effectively. I feel like they are just dodging scrutiny via inactivity (but! to be fair, they could just be busy - god knows I'd rather do things on my break than try to re-read pages of this game whilst on the crapper at work).

Capitalist Pig:

Posting, but not much content. Being vouched for by Tearshed with no real context.

Bonus Content!

I don't have a third pick for scum because frankly I'm not picking up on a whole lot to work with because, surprise, Somberbrero has been up my rear end since Magnus died and frankly I feel like I'm the only "scum" being hunted.

Somberbrero:

Somberbrero posted:

Epsilon is also scum, by the by.

Somberbrero posted:

Even though Epsilon is scum, we need to lynch Magnus anyway. I don't really care what order we do that in, either is kind of unfortunate since both those players are active.

These two gems where you attempt to discredit me without any attempt at explanation, followed up with

Somberbrero posted:

Epsilon it is weird that you hemmed and hawwed over whether or not to vote Magnus and hovered around to see what the popular opinion would be, especially when you make a very good point in regards to Magnus & TT. It's weird that you assume one of your scumlist would be a third party, unprompted. What about anyone there indicates third-party behavior? It's weird that you think I'm scum when I don't match your previously established criterion, which is not having voted day one.

where you believe I'm scum for... agreeing with you? You legitimately made a good point that I, in my inexperience, overlooked - that a reckless poisoner is a liability. Similarly, what I had posted earlier didn't have any particularly strict criteria; only that I was vaguely considering a group of people. Forgive me for not adhering to strict scientific rigor when replying to what I thought was a basic question!

Following that up you confuse two spots of humor (sorry!) for some kind of horrid scum tell. I am very sorry I used the word "crusade" when disregarding your complete lack of an actual case presented.

I think Somberbrero just picked up on one bad statement I made and is honing in on it, or possibly an Executioner with lynching me as his goal. Magnus was much more critical, but even when attempting to discredit Magnus he was working me over.

Also if anyone gives a poo poo I'm the escort. Night one I roleblocked Magnus Gallant because he was hellbent on TT and I was concerned that TT might not make it through the night (statistically, TT is/was more likely to be town than scum). Night two I roleblocked mfcrocker because both Somberbrero and mfcrocker were gunning for me, but Somberbrero's actions made me feel that he was more than likely either a town role just trying to be helpful or an Executioner who needed me dead to claim personal victory while mfcrocker was more interested in just having me dead. If mfcrocker was going to protect tithin, well... poo poo! Sorry dudes. With what appears to be two roleblockers, a jailor and who else knows what's going on I probably didn't think that through and I do apologize. I would also be concerned if mfcrocker immediately came back saying "yes I was going to protect him, ergo Epsilon is scum", though, so...

I'd really like to hear what people other than Somber and mfcrocker have to say, however. If I'm to be lynched, I'd at least like to see everyone's opinion so that you know who to trust after my corpse is hoisted.

girl dick energy
Sep 30, 2009

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Epsilon Plus posted:

Who I Think Should Die, Or At The Very Least Who Should Apologize Profusely, a book by Epsilon Plus
Do you actually think these people are scum, or are you just mad at them for voting you?

tearshed
Mar 26, 2010

Leave it to me!
I do not think newbie scum would vomit that many words. And he's claimed, so that's A Thing.

Epsilon is awkward for sure but I can't see anything particularly damning about him.

girl dick energy
Sep 30, 2009

You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?

tearshed posted:

I do not think newbie scum would vomit that many words. And he's claimed, so that's A Thing.

Epsilon is awkward for sure but I can't see anything particularly damning about him.
He was significantly less awkward in Beard Mafia, where he was town.

death cob for cutie
Dec 30, 2006

dwarves won't delve no more
too much splatting down on Zot:4
I also had less people actively looking to lynch me then, and now I have a (claimed) PR to justify and pick targets for. It's not just based on a binary town/scum state.

death cob for cutie
Dec 30, 2006

dwarves won't delve no more
too much splatting down on Zot:4

Poison Mushroom posted:

Do you actually think these people are scum, or are you just mad at them for voting you?

I think Somber is town or at least a benign third party. mfcrocker I have no solid grasp on. Tearshed and to a lesser extent CPig are who I actively suspect.

tearshed
Mar 26, 2010

Leave it to me!

Epsilon Plus posted:

I think Somber is town or at least a benign third party. mfcrocker I have no solid grasp on. Tearshed and to a lesser extent CPig are who I actively suspect.
Do you think I'm scum just because I'm not posting as much as you like ?? What about the actual content.

I don't understand how you think this

quote:

who made a lot of very good points and who was probably the main reason Magnus was lynched so effectively.
You mean mislynch, right? Somber lead a mislynch on a townie. Which mean he made bad (yet effective) points. Once again I don't understand how you can see somber as town here.

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death cob for cutie
Dec 30, 2006

dwarves won't delve no more
too much splatting down on Zot:4
If you can't see why having a poisoner running around killing people at random is a bad thing I am not sure how to explain it more effectively than previous players have. We technically lynched a townie, but someone killing without direction is a liability regardless of alignment. If he had kept silent until later to try and coordinate a potential scum kill, that would have been reasonable.

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