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Ambassador of Funk posted:Dude was drafted by the Giants in 2000. He had TJS in 2002. He was one of the worst pitchers in the league all during this time. Goes to Japan to around 2005 I want to say. Isn't very good. Goes to winter ball. Somehow learns the secret art of pitching well there and get pick up and bounced around in minors in a couple team in 2009-2010, before getting signed to the minors for the Giants in 2011. Gets called and becomes the best pitcher on (really loving good) staff. Makes the All-Star Game. Continues being good in 2012, should have been an All-Stat again, becomes the Giants ace in the postseason. Also that the dude and his family loving love the Giants and SF and are super appreciative of this second chance he's gotten. He's told stories about how LA offered him a minor league contract in the 2011 offseason and he rejected it even though it was then his only option of a job. That goes a long way for dumb fans like me. quote:The Giants didn't call [Ryan] Vogelsong right away. The Dodgers did, and made him an offer. Vogelsong asked [Giants' minor league catching instructor Guillermo] Rodriguez to contact the Giants again and relay this message, in essence: I don't want to be a Dodger. I am a Giant. If you want me, I'll sign for whatever you want to pay me. http://www.sfgate.com/sports/article/Ryan-Vogelsong-s-long-strange-trip-to-SF-Giants-2368848.php Akbar fucked around with this message at 21:53 on Oct 8, 2014 |
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Harlock posted:In the cases of players like Vogelsong, you just have to give credit to the GMs/development staff. Every team takes a flier on a dude who is past his prime/broke/busted, and if they turn into something magical it's an awesome gain for your team. The Phillies/Pirates had Brandon Moss, didn't see anything special about him and let him go, and now he flourishes in Oakland. 
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IcePhoenix posted:Who was the guy on the Red Sox in 2004 that everyone knew was going to steal second and still went like 7/8 when used as a pinch runner?  Never gets old  Tenth anniversary is coming up!
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Akbar posted:Also that the dude and his family loving love the Giants and SF and are super appreciative of this second chance he's gotten. He's told stories about how LA offered him a minor league contract in the 2011 offseason and he rejected it even though it was then his only option of a job. That goes a long way for dumb fans like me. Oh yeah, Vogelsong is one of the Giantest Giants to ever play for them. I didn't include that part though because I figured it wouldn't matter as much to a non-Giants fan. But hey I've made terrible assumes before. In my (junk) opinion he deserves a statue at AT&T whenever he retires. He won't get one for obvious reasons.
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Just a reminder, if the Royals win the WS, Raul Ibanez gets a ring. Go Royals. I adopted the Giants as my NL team at the turn of the millenium (before the Seahawks moved to the NFC West, mind you), so I'm down with them advancing too. Orioles are an acceptable option. Essentially, anyone but the Cards please.
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the popes toes posted:Teams nowadays, they can't help it. It's that smug loving bird. It's mesmerizing and intimidating. The O's come out of the dugout, and the other guys see that loving cartoon bird, they see it and they just know. They hate that loving cartoon. That's an edge.  The stories this bird could tell. You know you want to sit down and have a beer with it. (needs animated .gif version with spinning hypnosis spirals for eyes)
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the popes toes posted:Let's get this relative payroll thing out of the way. I think it probably makes more sense to use end-of-year payrolls, since richer teams Giants $166.6M Cardinals $141.7M Orioles $114.3M Royals $102.2M e: (Numbers from B-Ref)
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I'd rather there be some sort of 2002-All-Star-Game-esque fiasco where the is no champion than have the Cardinals win it again.
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I didn't even know this until Grant Brisbee posted it on twitter but evidently AJ Pierzynski's on the Cardinals. St. Louis must burn. e: just found this gif. gently caress yeah Will Clark. 
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Akbar posted:I didn't even know this until Grant Brisbee posted it on twitter but evidently AJ Pierzynski's on the Cardinals. How...how...did you not know that?
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Akbar posted:e: just found this gif. gently caress yeah Will Clark. Best part of this is Candy Maldonado flying in at the end. Get 'em Candy!
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Mornacale posted:I think it probably makes more sense to use end-of-year payrolls, since richer teams This isnt accurate for the cards, aj is getting paid the min and the redsox gave money in the lackey deal i think around 3 mill. They arent paying mastersons full salary either. Not that the cardinals cant afford to pay that amount, the organization has to be flush with cash with the playoff runs and over 3 million+ fans in the park again this year. It really is sad they didnt have a bench this season when they could obviously afford it. I guess the Mark Ellis experiment didnt work but would have been nice to see them get a righthanded bat at the deadline.
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Akbar posted:I didn't even know this until Grant Brisbee posted it on twitter but evidently AJ Pierzynski's on the Cardinals. You mean the Will Clark that retired a Cardinal  edit - oh poo poo, I forgot how awesome he was that brief part of the year, OPS'd 1.081 over 51 games 
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Mornacale posted:I think it probably makes more sense to use end-of-year payrolls, since richer teams Wait, what the gently caress? How did the Cards increase in payroll by 30 million over the course of the season? The only players they acquired were George Kottaras (league minimum), AJP (league minimum; rest covered by BoSox), John Lackey, and Justin Masterson (Indians covered some of his salary too, I believe.) I'm not saying the $141 number isn't right, but one of the two numbers is definitely wrong. e: yeah, it just added on the full 2014 salaries for AJP, Lackey, and Masterson. So instead of adding 30 million, you should add, like...maybe 5, tops. FairGame fucked around with this message at 00:23 on Oct 9, 2014 |
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Ambassador of Funk posted:How...how...did you not know that? Not knowing about a team you (presumably) dont follow picking up a well-past-his-prime backup catcher isnt really that crazy
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Monicro posted:Not knowing about a team you (presumably) dont follow picking up a well-past-his-prime backup catcher isnt really that crazy Yeah he posts here, and we were all talking about it when they picked him up because it was another reason to hate the Cardinals. I would have thought he would have picked it up indirectly from us at least at this point.
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SNY is showing a faux game show where the premise is the Mets radio and TV broadcasters square off in a battle of Mets knowledge. E: This is amazing. It's so bad it's good territory. davecrazy fucked around with this message at 00:37 on Oct 9, 2014 |
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He's not even on the playoff roster! (He should be, but given that backup catcher is like the least consequential roster spot in a playoff series, who gives a poo poo)
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FairGame posted:He's not even on the playoff roster! (He should be, but given that backup catcher is like the least consequential roster spot in a playoff series, who gives a poo poo) Normally, but then Avila got his eggs scrambled and their backup was a hot mess.
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FairGame posted:(He should be, but given that backup catcher is like the least consequential roster spot in a playoff series, who gives a poo poo) I dunno, he might be better as a cheerleader after this and that.
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the popes toes posted:Teams nowadays, they can't help it. It's that smug loving bird. It's mesmerizing and intimidating. The O's come out of the dugout, and the other guys see that loving cartoon bird, they see it and they just know. They hate that loving cartoon. That's an edge. Put this on my tombstone tia
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Akbar posted:This is from the last thread but he did a what now? Pence plays Hearthstone and Diablo 3. Though during vanilla Diablo, he preferred Path of Exile because D3 launched without PKs. Apparently he likes PVP.
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Ambassador of Funk posted:Yeah he posts here, and we were all talking about it when they picked him up because it was another reason to hate the Cardinals. I would have thought he would have picked it up indirectly from us at least at this point. I usually don't follow the N/V thread during the regular season v  v
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angrygodofjebus posted:I dunno, he might be better as a cheerleader after this and that. Is he shouting gently caress you, motherfuckers at the dodger dugout?
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Pretty sure Grant Brisbee is a Goon. He used the phrase "We're talking about Travis Ishikawa, again. Literally Travis Ishikawa."
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Ambassador of Funk posted:Goes to Japan to around 2005 I want to say. Isn't very good. Goes to winter ball. Somehow learns the secret art of pitching well there and You're off by a few years, and Japan Vogelsong was alright. He hated the DH and pitched closer to Giants Vogelsong (or the properly regressed median, anyway) than Pirates Vogelsong. Also, he left Pittsburgh recently enough that there are still archives on Bucs Dugout complaining about him, and their archives don't go back as far as many SBN sites.
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FairGame posted:Is he shouting gently caress you, motherfuckers at the dodger dugout? I think it was at the pitcher, but yes
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angrygodofjebus posted:I think it was at the pitcher, but yes AJP is an rear end in a top hat, wow.
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Craptacular! posted:You're off by a few years, and Japan Vogelsong was alright. He hated the DH and pitched closer to Giants Vogelsong (or the properly regressed median, anyway) than Pirates Vogelsong. You're right, he's goes over in 2007-2008ish. I was doing that from memory, hence the qualifying statements on dates.
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Quasimango posted:Bryce Harper in the NLDS: .294/.368/.882 for a 1.251 OPS So glad he batted sixth in the lineup.
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Rand alPaul posted:So glad he batted sixth in the lineup. Wait what I mean i wasn't paying super close attention to the Nationals this year but 
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Giants should have Mike Morse back for the NLCS. He played in an Instructional League game today and said he feels 100%. Probably won't be in left field since he hasn't played in over a month, but at least he gives us a home run threat off the bench.
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kalensc posted:Wait what Denard Span Anthony Rendon Jayson Werth Adam LaRoche Ian Desmond Bryce Harper It's not all that crazy. He's been worse than most of those other hitters this year. And Desmond has been pretty hot in the second half.
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FairGame posted:Wait, what the gently caress? How did the Cards increase in payroll by 30 million over the course of the season? The only players they acquired were George Kottaras (league minimum), AJP (league minimum; rest covered by BoSox), John Lackey, and Justin Masterson (Indians covered some of his salary too, I believe.) Teams also add several million over the season just from waiver claims and purchasing minor league contracts due to injury/ineffectiveness/rookie debuts and those kinds of trivial moves, as well. But I'll have to quit referring to B-R if it's completely misreporting Pierzynski's salary.
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Malaclypse posted:Pretty sure Grant Brisbee is a Goon. He used the phrase "We're talking about Travis Ishikawa, again. Literally Travis Ishikawa." He does follow Lowtax on Twitter. I'M ON TO YOU FRISBEE!!!
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Craptacular! posted:You're off by a few years, and Japan Vogelsong was alright. He hated the DH and pitched closer to Giants Vogelsong (or the properly regressed median, anyway) than Pirates Vogelsong. Wow that's a hell of a thing to see Vogey mashing a tater. The blood of Bonds flows strongly in him. He is a true Giant.
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