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Insanely Sikh posted:Bad thread, bad posts. For shame Yeah i just came back to 30+ posts of absolute poo poo. What the gently caress, shut up you dumb nerds. Also, I started listening to the new Gambon and gave up after five minutes. How anyone likes that guy is beyond me. You can say "the production is good" but that's a cop out. Ferg said his new album is "not A$AP Ferg, just Ferg" so who knows where it's going.
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gambon = gambino aka donglover? wrist wrist wrist wrist wrist wrist REMIX wrist wrist wrist wrist wrist wrist edit: poo poo I just realized this is not Real thathonkey fucked around with this message at 22:22 on Oct 9, 2014 |
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I really dislike Ab-Soul's verse on Lakers. It's not real rap enough for my white rear end
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# ? Oct 9, 2014 22:15 |
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New Dj Quick is streaming About half way through and it's good. Production is up to his high standard.
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Insanely Sikh posted:I really dislike Ab-Soul's verse on Lakers. It's not real rap enough for my white rear end "I'm from out there, so don't... go there" is so lazy I can't help but laugh every time
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Kenshin posted:Owns. Finally, I can have a niche genre all to myself! But seriously that was a cool find.
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snyprmag posted:New Dj Quick is streaming About half way through and it's good. Production is up to his high standard. Been meaning to ask if somebody could do a "where to start with dj quik?" post. I always like what i have heard here and there from him. For example, http://youtu.be/Ub0zVVIVJ2w
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thathonkey posted:edit: poo poo I just realized this is not Real https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXznTzqKlH8 Insanely Sikh posted:I really dislike Ab-Soul's verse on Lakers. It's not real rap enough for my white rear end Yuzenn posted:Alright now we have something to discuss. I'm probably a bit older than some of the people on this thread, but outside of catchyness and entertainment certain artists (lets use the given examples of Waka Flocka, or a French Montana, or even sometimes in a 2 Chainz) I don't personally think their music adds a lot of value towards the art or for the culture most of the time. That doesn't mean that it can't be good, or entertaining, or fun! Yuzenn posted:I grew up on Biggie and Pac and Big L and Big Pun (golden era) but what those guys all had that an alarming amount of rappers lack is a knack for telling a story behing their raps. There are a lot of guys who have some great production or energy behind what they do but that's it. Even a guy I listened to non stop in Cam'ron changed his style very deliberately from a danger zone Big L style rapper into a nursery rhyme simplistic style of rap. Know what? Dipset was catchy and fun as all hell. I'll give you another example: Kick in the door, which is one of my absolute favorite rap songs, is definitely about some ignorant rear end poo poo but it tells a very specific and vivid story (albeit using some very negative depictions of gun and violence towards women). Pac was also one of those artists who on top of being an actual poet (if you havn't read his books you should) and a really powerful actor and rapper, penned some extremely powerful songs that really resonate to this day. Honestly me being a "Rap Purist" may be a function of being of the age when people tend to start families but I have no problem rationalizing what those rappers meant to me growing up and how they were important to society, but some of these other artists will be a little more difficult to be apologetic about. Yuzenn posted:With that said, rap is intertwined with a whole lot of poo poo that isn't positive and is sometimes damaging, but at the end of the day that isn't always rap/hip hop/r&b's job. Music is perfectly fine about being just about enjoying it for whatever reason, for its ignorance, or how it makes you feel, or just to roll some weed up to...whatever. I can't get enough of ASAP Rocky, Pusha T, Slaughterhouse, Battle Rap etc etc etc, but at the same time I don't personally think some artists that make music right now are very talented either lyrically or in the content of what they say. For example, I'm not a Gucci fan but I know a lot of people in the thread are. I'm a Childish Gambino fan, and I know a lot of people don't like him on the thread as well, but the purpose of the thread is to expose each other to what we think is good and people can make their own decisions and opinions from there, no? Yuzenn posted:All and all I just want rappers to put together coherent pieces of work and stories again, and if possible tell about how they see the world positive or negative. I bought Joell Ortiz's album and I can't wait for Big KRIT's albums because I think they have unique and interesting views and things to tell about their lives and how rap is intertwined with it.
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Insanely Sikh posted:I really dislike Ab-Soul's verse on Lakers. It's not real rap enough for my white rear end I just got that line on Ab-soul's Pineal Gland "we overseas back to back never wore Chanel" like a week ago
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thathonkey posted:gambon = gambino aka donglover? Whoops autocorrect .though to be honest a mixtape by Michael Gambon would probably be better.
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quote:What’s up with Madvillainy 2? http://www.rappcats.com/madlib-doom-2014/ http://www.bonafidemag.com/cover-story-madlib-interview/
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Yuzenn posted:At least we can agree on something! See, I've talked about this a some before here and other places, but what you call the "golden era" was to a lot of dudes from the 80's a bunch of violent, gangsta bullshit. Like dudes in the early/mid 90's was hearing poo poo from dudes who grew up on KRS-One and PE and Brand Nubian and stuff about how all their music was just about bitches and guns and stuff. And of the dudes you mentioned, none of them are dudes I'd consider really amazing rappers. Pac is one of the most overrated dudes ever in terms of his actual music-most of his import is actually due to his image and how he was marketed. His music is actually pretty simplistic usually, not much different than dudes like Waka or 2 chains. Biggie had one amazing, era-defining album, and one shiny-suited bloated mediocre album. And had dude not died, you just KNOW Puffy was gonna have that dude selling out more than Snoop. Big L is famous for dying, and Big Pun was purely a pop dude (who was also mostly famous for dying, and being really fat). Like a lot of your opinion is due to that being what you grew up with-separated by a little perspective there's nothing that special about the dudes you named besides them all dying. Like the thing about most "rap purists" and rap vs. "hip-hop" discussions is they break down into what people 1) like and 2) grew up with. That's why I always talk about rap, and not hip-hop, and why when I poo poo on rappers I try to stick only to their quality, not some "authenticity" debate. As for import to society, I can easily rationalize the stuff that you talk down as being nearly as important (and really, it was only how Pac was built up in the media that makes a big difference). quote:With that said, rap is intertwined with a whole lot of poo poo that isn't positive and is sometimes damaging, but at the end of the day that isn't always rap/hip hop/r&b's job. Music is perfectly fine about being just about enjoying it for whatever reason, for its ignorance, or how it makes you feel, or just to roll some weed up to...whatever. I can't get enough of ASAP Rocky, Pusha T, Slaughterhouse, Battle Rap etc etc etc, but at the same time I don't personally think some artists that make music right now are very talented either lyrically or in the content of what they say. For example, I'm not a Gucci fan but I know a lot of people in the thread are. I'm a Childish Gambino fan, and I know a lot of people don't like him on the thread as well, but the purpose of the thread is to expose each other to what we think is good and people can make their own decisions and opinions from there, no? Like what you like of course, and I'm not gonna say things are entirely the same w/r/t content and delivery but it's not nearly the big gap you seem to indicate.
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alansmithee posted:See, I've talked about this a some before here and other places, but what you call the "golden era" was to a lot of dudes from the 80's a bunch of violent, gangsta bullshit. Like dudes in the early/mid 90's was hearing poo poo from dudes who grew up on KRS-One and PE and Brand Nubian and stuff about how all their music was just about bitches and guns and stuff. alansmithee posted:And of the dudes you mentioned, none of them are dudes I'd consider really amazing rappers. Pac is one of the most overrated dudes ever in terms of his actual music-most of his import is actually due to his image and how he was marketed. His music is actually pretty simplistic usually, not much different than dudes like Waka or 2 chains. Biggie had one amazing, era-defining album, and one shiny-suited bloated mediocre album. And had dude not died, you just KNOW Puffy was gonna have that dude selling out more than Snoop. Big L is famous for dying, and Big Pun was purely a pop dude (who was also mostly famous for dying, and being really fat). Like a lot of your opinion is due to that being what you grew up with-separated by a little perspective there's nothing that special about the dudes you named besides them all dying. alansmithee posted:Like the thing about most "rap purists" and rap vs. "hip-hop" discussions is they break down into what people 1) like and 2) grew up with. That's why I always talk about rap, and not hip-hop, and why when I poo poo on rappers I try to stick only to their quality, not some "authenticity" debate. As for import to society, I can easily rationalize the stuff that you talk down as being nearly as important (and really, it was only how Pac was built up in the media that makes a big difference). Yeah the music people like Waka Flocka or Drake make have a huge impact on society and the way people act. Also I agree that no one should poo poo on a rapper because of their "authenticity". I think people like Rick Ross have some great albums despite not being "real" but like how does that impact the quality of the music he makes? Do people seriously think Freddie Gibbs is some kind of Thug God that commits a felony everyday? (The answer is Yes as seen in the previous thread when some dude argued with me that Gary is actually some kind of trap god paradise where everyone is Gucci Mane and Freddie Gibbs despite the fact that he had never been there and i grew up around there.) alansmithee posted:You're 100% true that a lot of dudes making music right now aren't very talented lyrically or in content...but that's the case back in the 90's. Like, the best stuff ends up standing out, and also just gets built up over time. Flockaveli is flat-out a better album than Makaveli was, but Waka's still alive making EDM to appeal to white dudes and Pac got shot playing gangsta when dudes who didn't buy into their own hype were wisely chilling with that poo poo (i.e. Snoop). Waka has all that story stuff entwined in his stuff if you listen, it's not just presented the same way. 2 chains does too (French is garbage). ....also i liked excuse my french
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I disagree with everything posted above me, for the record, as a real rap man. Today, everyone is Snoop. People actually wrote rhymes on paper and performed in them in a studio booth in 90s. They thought about the words that were recorded on songs.
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# ? Oct 10, 2014 01:32 |
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shut the gently caress up u fags im trying to listen to thrift shop
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Crumbletron posted:"I'm from out there, so don't... go there" is so lazy I can't help but laugh every time I don't like Ab Soul but you know that's a biggie line right? Not that it makes it any less lazy
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EATIN SHRIMP posted:I don't like Ab Soul but you know that's a biggie line right? Not that it makes it any less lazy I did not but I'm also not a huge Biggie fan vv
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# ? Oct 10, 2014 03:27 |
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drat I saw 50 new posts and I though Spark Master Tape dropped a new mixtape.
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temple posted:I disagree with everything posted above me, for the record, as a real rap man. They do that now too. It's much easier to hear about a much wider variety of music now. Before, you pretty much had whatever stuff bubbled up to a national level, plus your local scene (if you had one). That meant that there was typically going to be a higher level of polish to whatever music was heard. And even then, I don't think anyone's gonna seriously say stuff like "Tootsie Roll", "Rump Shaker", "Jump", "U Can't Touch This", "Informer", etc etc were some amazing rap that's just not made today (because those were all from the "golden age" and were played all the loving time). I think MC Hammer still has like 2 of the top 10 selling rap albums of all time, both from the 90's. I'm probably the oldest dude here, and tbh the late 90's/early 2000's shits all over the early/mid 90's in terms of quality music. Like if I were to pick a "golden age" it would def be 2000-2005 or so. But I wouldn't do that. Hell, I'd put the last 2 years up against pretty much any period in rap. Honestly the biggest difference to me between music now and in the 90's is the production, not the lyrics.
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alansmithee posted:I'm probably the oldest dude here, and tbh the late 90's/early 2000's shits all over the early/mid 90's in terms of quality music. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzW8691K-Fk
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Rap today is pretty good, in my opinion. However, I would love if most rappers would concentrate a bit more on the content instead of having the hook come up every ten seconds. One of the reasons Kendric is one of my favorites today.
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Budget Cop posted:I think entertainment and fun are perfectly valid things to add to an artform though! The cool part about rap is that literally anyone can use the medium to express themself without getting caught up on expensive instruments or music theory. I love the huge variety of voices in rap from "conscious" stuff like open mike eagle to trap stuff like waka flocka to some kid on youtube with 2k views that without rap never would have been able to express himself. dap here are some real rap pro-clicks of young dudes on the come up i've been listening to recently Philly rapper Eric Jamal murdering Both Parents in the back of a car: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnhRtO4RASI Chicago rapper K.O The God because that drillbop poo poo never gets old https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TR8ek3g8x0 BX rapper King Ceazar has something special with this flow https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuwN6llBGIk
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# ? Oct 10, 2014 09:04 |
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Smh what's with the big l hate in this thread. Dude rapped circles around essentially anyone and also made great songs which is something so many rappity rap dudes fail at. Yeah he is more known for dieing but that doesn't discount the music he made before that. He was the best rapper in arguably the 90s nyc rap crew with the most raw talent besides wutang Edit: I would rank life stylez ov da poor & dangerous as a classic to the same extent of ready to die or the infamous. Tolkien minority fucked around with this message at 09:59 on Oct 10, 2014 |
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Excited for the new Party Supplies record. Loved Blue Chips 1, didn't care for Blue Chips 2. Ideas why that could be, I can't put my finger on it?
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Profondo Rosso posted:Smh what's with the big l hate in this thread. Dude rapped circles around essentially anyone and also made great songs which is something so many rappity rap dudes fail at. Yeah he is more known for dieing but that doesn't discount the music he made before that. He was the best rapper in arguably the 90s nyc rap crew with the most raw talent besides wutang I like biggie. I think everyone is just tired of him because he has a relatively limited amount of music and has been gone for a long time (you dont hear much about, eg, tupac here much either)? I dont listen to his music anymore mostly because i have heard it all a million times and that certainly doesnt make it bad. I hope the reason is along those lines, at least, cause he was a great rapper and like you say also made many many great songs unlike lots of other technically skilled guys. Edit: \/\/\/ i am an idiot nvm thathonkey fucked around with this message at 12:36 on Oct 10, 2014 |
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thathonkey posted:I like biggie. I think everyone is just tired of him because he has a relatively limited amount of music and has been gone for a long time (you dont hear much about, eg, tupac here much either)? I hope, at least, cause he was a great rapper and like you say also made many many great songs unlike lots of other technically skilled guys. I like biggie too but try rereading my post Big l and biggie are two different dudes lol http://youtu.be/pAhIoC9UnzU Tolkien minority fucked around with this message at 12:33 on Oct 10, 2014 |
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Hahaha omg i thought it was an"i" that you accidentally spaced out. Thats what i get for posting from my phone like 2 min after waking up. Welp. Your post makes way more sense now though Edit: big L taught me http://youtu.be/7WmYjNreVj4 thathonkey fucked around with this message at 12:45 on Oct 10, 2014 |
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It's cool lol. Anyways I didn't like this song when it dropped a week ago but the more I hear it the more I like it. Tentatively looking forward to futures mixtape later this month http://youtu.be/NjVvTod8SB0 Also I never see audiopush love here they've been dropping bangers lately. See this month old video: http://youtu.be/m4RsXmDp_yI Tolkien minority fucked around with this message at 12:51 on Oct 10, 2014 |
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video is 3 days old but whatever: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4WwcJUhkXs
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Tremendous Taste posted:Excited for the new Party Supplies record. Loved Blue Chips 1, didn't care for Blue Chips 2. Ideas why that could be, I can't put my finger on it? i feel the same way. I think that in blue chips 1, the production meshes perfectly with the rap, but on a lot of blue chips 2 it sounds like party supplies and bronson are competing for the spotlight. the louder and wackier the background track, the louder action bronson screams over it.
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Yeah agreed, good point. That Party Supplies song featuring Bronson i posted last page or two is good because it is assured in its identity as a Party Supplies song, complemented by a rap verse. That being said, I still liked Blue Chips 2 though not as much as the first. Contemporary Man is a really cool song. edit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3EATLTuJ2A thathonkey fucked around with this message at 14:49 on Oct 10, 2014 |
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Profondo Rosso posted:a week ago Also this is the best thing in hip hop in 2014 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmBb_Sx7goQ
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EATIN SHRIMP posted:
God bless you. I remember seeing that but almost farted it out my memory. Bobby Shmurda deserves his contract for that dance alone. The day you see black men stop dancing, worry.
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^^ Yes to the above 100 times, I get souped every time he does the hat throw.... There is a lot to type about but I'm going to keep it short since this has been eluded to: my rap tastes are mostly molded because of where I live and am from and the styles of the guys from when I was growing up. Just like everyone else I am a product of my environment. With that said, if you like a certain artist then they've done their job and its cool that you like it but I'm going to be just like B. Dot and pretty much hate a ton of the content coming out. The only thing I will specifically note is that I very much disagree about Big L and Biggie and Pac and Pun being only known for being dead, those are some of the best rappers who ever walked this earth. It's silly to have a top 5 because of its subjectivity but outside of Eminem, Rakim, Jay-Z, Ye and Nas I'm not even close to putting anyone near those guys. There is more than just that though, I stood in line to buy the CD's for Ryde or Dye Volume 1 and Diplomatic Immunity AND Lord Willing and Get Rich or Die Trying so I just don't wanna keep going back to the Mt. Rushmore of hip hop to talk about people I think are supremely talented. Like I said before there are specific people who come out with music right now that are really great at it, but there are so many more who I think just don't make very good music at all. Not everyone needs to go destroy 5 fingers of death for me to like them, but it sure as gently caress helps me to know whether they can rap or not. Even with that I think that guys like Oun- P, King Los, Astro, and Logic who can all REALLY rap won't make very albums or sell a whole lot. For me they fall into trap a lot of "lyrical" guys do and outrap every beat that they hop on and they don't have that "Radio Hit" kind of music making ability (and you need it). I really loving hate the radio anyway, but they have been and are going to be for the near future a driver of what people determine is "hot". Basically what I want to get across is that there is no way I'm getting excited about anything a lot of the guys that I don't think are talented are doing while there's some really awesome stuff on the horizon : I mean, a DJ Premier/Royce Da 5'9" and a Run the Jewels 2 album coming out soon! I want to see more of Cyhi Da Prynce and Flatbush Zombies at the same time as wishing that Andre 3 stacks would drop a REAL solo joint. I think that we all agree about what makes rap great (or else we wouldn't post in this thread) but we are just going to have to disagree on who makes it great for us individually.
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LunaSky posted:A friend of mine showed this to me it's really good. It reminds me of some old school rap. This is not what I was expecting at all and really good. I was just reading an article about some Latino MC, and that went into a little about Latino rap stuff and w/e. And I couldn't help but think how I hate most of the cultural-specific rap stuff that those dudes put out, yet I definitely dig the above track. And I'm pretty sure the biggest reason is that dude here sticks to English. Rap in non-English just sounds horrible. The...rhythms or something aren't right. Budget Cop posted:I don't think anyone in this thread thinks like this but yeah ton of dudes have this misconception that the 90s was some kind of super positive, deep and spiritual golden age for rap when in actuality the subject matter wasn't really all that different than what dudes rap about now. Obviously since it's a while ago there were tons of differences in style and what they actually rapped about but rapping about things like bitches and guns isn't some kind of new occurrence. My point wasn't that dudes think the 90's was all great or whatever. It was that in the 90's, dudes who grew up on 80's rap was saying 90's rap was all guns/hoes/bling/gangsta poo poo because they grew up on KRS-One, PE, etc. Basically, they saw the "golden age" as the 80's and thought the 90's stuff was all a bunch of untalented thugs. Which tied into my point about how when people talk about "real hip-hop" they just mean "poo poo I listened to when I was younger". It's no different than rock dudes who say there's been no good rock after Zeppelin and Pink Floyd or w/e. Also as an aside I think it was 3 or 4 years ago at some Oh No dj event from Stones Throw they had some snippets from new Madvillain songs. I know Madlib said the problem had been since then actually getting in contact with DOOM, so I'm actually mildly hopeful that there may be something since for those interviews they were actually in the same room. Profondo Rosso posted:Smh what's with the big l hate in this thread. Dude rapped circles around essentially anyone and also made great songs which is something so many rappity rap dudes fail at. Yeah he is more known for dieing but that doesn't discount the music he made before that. He was the best rapper in arguably the 90s nyc rap crew with the most raw talent besides wutang And I thought that future song was only meh. I think dude's too "pop" now or something and we'll never hear another Karate Chop or Sh!t. asap-salafi posted:video is 3 days old but whatever: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4WwcJUhkXs temple posted:Hello El-P Also Gleesh is straight. Dudes got some cool songs. Yung Fresh also had some cool stuff over Zaytoven production but I haven't heard from that dude in a minute.
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alansmithee posted:See, I've talked about this a some before here and other places, but what you call the "golden era" was to a lot of dudes from the 80's a bunch of violent, gangsta bullshit. Like dudes in the early/mid 90's was hearing poo poo from dudes who grew up on KRS-One and PE and Brand Nubian and stuff about how all their music was just about bitches and guns and stuff. New thread title
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Yuzenn posted:^^ Yes to the above 100 times, I get souped every time he does the hat throw.... See, I actually agree with a whole lot of what you posted here. My main point wasn't that you have to (or even should) like everything coming out, it was that stuff in general coming out isn't de facto worse than some idealized time in the past, nor is it any less "real hip-hop". Also, because I love tearing down sacred cows, of the dudes you mentioned the only ones I'd even consider near the "best" would be Em, Nas, Rakim, and Kanye (not so much for his actual rapping ability, but his whole production/music making ability). Pac was an extremely average rapper. Like, he had some great songs but a lot of average/filler material. And it's almost impossible to separate his whole "Thug Life" mythology from his actual music output. Dude doesn't even have an album you can really consider "classic". Snoop in his prime was a much better rapper, but we also got to watch Snoop sell out about 20,000 times. Had he died around when Murder Was the Case soundtrack was released, he'd get the same type of treatment. You can say Pac is one of the greatest due to his impact or whatever, but based solely on music he's not even close to being at that level. Big Pun was also pretty average. He's not even the best light-skinned fat puerto rican rapper. But again, Fat Joe didn't die so dudes don't talk about him in the same terms. Ready to Die is arguably the best rap album ever. Life After Death was one really good album interspersed between a bunch of junk and pop cornball poo poo. Had he not died he'd be Ma$e (who when eh started was actually a decent rapper before the Bad Boy shiny-suit poo poo enveloped him). Big L doesn't even deserve to be in the conversation with those dudes, and only reason dudes talk him up is because he's an east coast dude from that era who died. As I said, dude could rap his rear end off. But dudes like Danny Brown and Kendrick already have better careers than him, and rap better (honestly Kendrick's a better rapper than all these dudes-only Em or Rakim are touching him). Like imagine if Ras Kass got shot after Soul on Ice-that's Big L. Dying early doesn't make your music better. It just means you had less time to make bad poo poo.
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alansmithee posted:Dying early doesn't make your music better. It just means you had less time to make bad poo poo. 100% and this statement holds true across a bunch of creative mediums I think. I always figure Biggie's career would have been a lot like Nas' if he hadnt died when he did - lots of ups and downs but still respected as a great. Edit: this is going off topic a bit but Ive always found it interesting that within the genre of rap, artists tend to start strong (see: all the great first albums of various rappers) and then get worse over time. There are, of course, exceptions but that is roughly the inverse of how other genre artists tend to progress (especially in the case of bands where multiple artists have to learn how to mesh and grow together which is obviously challenging). thathonkey fucked around with this message at 16:24 on Oct 10, 2014 |
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alansmithee posted:See, I actually agree with a whole lot of what you posted here. My main point wasn't that you have to (or even should) like everything coming out, it was that stuff in general coming out isn't de facto worse than some idealized time in the past, nor is it any less "real hip-hop". I see what you are saying here, and definitely agree that I have no the idea what the gently caress happened to Ma$e (well I do know, it was the same dude that created Loon and G-Dep). I will say that Capital Punishment by Big Pun is a pretty amazing album....there isn't really much else from Pun but Fat Joe isn't that great to me.... So Mr. Cee apparently is reading my mind and dropped this today http://www.hot97.com/news/dj-mister-cee/tbt-w-mister-cee-noon-mix-1092014-audiodownload
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I don't know where to jump in with the 90's discussion but the whole late 90-early 2000's thing is so wrong. From 84 till 97, hiphop got better every year. Anyone telling you otherwise does not love you.
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