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Ibram Gaunt posted:I spent 9.70 of my card money to get a level 5 badge
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I think the lesson here is, if you want to support SE releasing more games on PC, buy FF4.
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Oct 9, 2014 21:21
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Varance posted:Escape does instantly kill the program, which is pretty hilarious. Evil Fluffy posted:What was the last FF game SE ported to PC and didn't have it run like total rear end? The last PC port was Final Fantasy VIII, and y'all should be happy with your escape-to-quit-anywhere because in the FFVIII port, there was no option to quit at all.
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Oct 9, 2014 21:25
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Sunning posted:How about Catwoman, then? She really does. His Batman fit the description "dude who uses gadgets, hand-to-hand fighting and intimidation to take down criminals" and I think he looked cool. This looks way more generic. On the other hand, it's not like Catwoman ever had a good design.
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Oct 9, 2014 21:31
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Mega64 posted:I think the lesson here is, if you want to support SE releasing more games on PC, buy FF4. Apparently that's an emulated port of the Android version, which runs at 20fps and god only knows what resolution. If you support SE releasing more games on PC, buy... Sleeping Dogs, FFXIV, and Tomb Raider, I guess. Honestly, I think their interest in releasing more of their own games on PC comes from the success of their published western games on Steam.
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Oct 9, 2014 21:32
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abraham linksys posted:Apparently that's an emulated port of the Android version, which runs at 20fps and god only knows what resolution. That is a really good point.
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Oct 9, 2014 21:34
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That loving Sned posted:There is no satisfactory resolution to Final Fantasy XIII. This is a good post. I'm curious about what people think was the motivation for FF14:ARR. Was it "Wow, all these people are buying our completely lovely game, and we're making an absolute fortune from long-term subscriptions! Thanks to all their support, we can finally make the game good!"?
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Oct 9, 2014 21:35
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Sunning posted:The PC port was a side effect of the Dive-In cloud service rather than a PC focused initiative. The quality of the port shouldn't have been too much of a surprise. I think that looks badass as hell Varance posted:The res is locked, but you can remap (some) keys. It's in settings. Not changing resolution is dumb but can't you force rendering modes via gfx control panels? Mega64 posted:Actually, with the recent remake on PS3, how likely is it we'll get X/X-2 on PC? I'd wager pretty high. The HD versions are not the same sort of low-effort trash they've done with other ports so I'd like to imagine that they wrote the updated engine in such a way as to allow this. Even better if they can share save games with the other two by linking your PC with your PSN account.
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Oct 9, 2014 21:37
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I will buy FF13, I will not buy FFXHD because they still haven't added a skip cutscene button.
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Oct 9, 2014 21:41
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seizure later posted:But yes, it's everyone else's fault that nowhere before launch did they say "by the way you're pretty much getting the same experience as an emulator". Emulators have save state, frame skip, and filters to make game look smoothly (hello hq4x). I'm going to go out on a limb and say that the FF13 port has none of these and ask that you not slander emulators and their usefulness. 
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Oct 9, 2014 21:41
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That loving Sned posted:There is no satisfactory resolution to Final Fantasy XIII. I'unno, the trash dump is the best resolution it could possibly hope for.
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Oct 9, 2014 21:42
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Evil Fluffy posted:Emulators have save state, frame skip, and filters to make game look smoothly (hello hq4x). I'm going to go out on a limb and say that the FF13 port has none of these and ask that you not slander emulators and their usefulness. Well the port at least uses most of your computer's resources instead of just small part of it, so that's a bonus.
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Oct 9, 2014 21:49
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Durante working on FFXIII already. http://www.gamersyde.com/thqstream_first_working_run_of_ff13_gedosato_plugin-zqllcqGKENBBKi6p_en.html
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Oct 9, 2014 22:08
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Himuro posted:Durante working on FFXIII already. Durante being Mr. DSFix?
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Oct 9, 2014 22:09
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Spiritus Nox posted:Durante being Mr. DSFix? Yep.
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Oct 9, 2014 22:10
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Fister Roboto posted:This is a good post. Probably "this game is bad enough to hurt the brand"?
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Oct 9, 2014 22:11
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Fister Roboto posted:This is a good post. Didn't XIV initially sell horribly and the reason SE scrambled to fix it because they spent millions on it that wasn't being returned to them? The original director of the game left the company. That's...not monetary success, dude.
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Oct 9, 2014 22:16
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Fister Roboto posted:This is a good post. To make more money which is the same thing we want SE to be thinking about when they consider whether or not to release future AAA titles on PC.
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Oct 9, 2014 22:24
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No don't you get it man he's making fun of my purchasing decision see, because I am stupid and its SUPER funny. So much material to mine out of that one.Himuro posted:You need to chill, man. yep I'm done *exits thread* Lastdancer fucked around with this message at 22:32 on Oct 9, 2014 |
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Oct 9, 2014 22:24
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You need to chill, man. That said, I'm getting XIII trilogy on steam just to tell them I want more of their products on the platform. There's something wrong with this now? Plus, I haven't played 13-2 or LR.
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Oct 9, 2014 22:28
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Bought and will buy any square game on steam if by chance they see the light and bring everything to the pc for more profits. I might actually replay ff13, never finished ff12-2, and hahaha LR yea right. Maybe I should of let them have their 3rd swing but they already struck out twice.
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Oct 9, 2014 22:31
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Fister Roboto posted:This is a good post. Actually they didn't charge a monthly fee for FFXIV for the longest time (even while still charging for FFXI) because they realized it was lovely. They worked really hard to make it better because a ton of people did buy it, and they saw all the potential if those people would actually stick around instead of dropping sub overnight. I'm really not sure what point you're trying to make here. Not to mention comparing MMO games (with subscriptions and social environment) to boxed non-MMO games is pretty stupid. Seriously dude you've stated your obvious stupid point like 10 times and nobody cares anymore, stop repeating yourself. You seem to think that nobody bought FFXIV and they charged a monthly fee for it, and somehow that means that FF14 ARR was something Square just felt like doing for no reason? Zaphod42 fucked around with this message at 22:36 on Oct 9, 2014 |
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Oct 9, 2014 22:33
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Tenzarin posted:Bought and will buy any square game on steam if by chance they see the light and bring everything to the pc for more profits. I might actually replay ff13, never finished ff12-2, and hahaha LR yea right. Maybe I should of let them have their 3rd swing but they already struck out twice. Well it was the best of the lot, so yeah. Unfortunately, nobody bought it because the other two games were bad.
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Oct 9, 2014 22:34
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FF14 was like 6-7 dollars for a sub at release. If you paid like 3 months or something you now have veteran status(10? bucks a month, but no bulk discounts, cheaper then bulk but cant buy ahead) and already own FF14ARR. I'm pretty sure didn't fix the game because people were playing it, they tried to fix it because it was released and instantly flopped.
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Oct 9, 2014 22:37
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Fister Roboto posted:I'm curious about what people think was the motivation for FF14:ARR. Was it "Wow, all these people are buying our completely lovely game, and we're making an absolute fortune from long-term subscriptions! Thanks to all their support, we can finally make the game good!"? Yoshi-P talked about this. He mainly re-did FFXIV to restore faith in the FF brand among the fanbase. Initially there was a pervasive "gently caress it they'll swallow any FF poo poo we serve up" among the dev team. Not helping matters was Tanaka, who is the dictionary definition of an ivory tower developer. So you had lovely game mechanics, combined with an  dev team with no experience with MMOs, no player-dev communication and an engine that isn't fit for MMOs. Unsurprisingly, it was poo poo.Yoshida wanted to reverse all this. He thought about jumping ship, but decided against it because of how much XIV damaged SE's reputation. It as a gambit that paid out in the end, XIV is like the most profitable thing SE ever did. Say Sunning, don't suppose you have any info on Tanaka? What was up with that guy? Did MMOs kill his parents or something?
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Oct 9, 2014 22:44
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Himuro posted:You need to chill, man. That said, I'm getting XIII trilogy on steam just to tell them I want more of their products on the platform. There's something wrong with this now? Plus, I haven't played 13-2 or LR. The only thing you're telling SE by buying a lovely rushed port is that you'll buy any poo poo they shovel in your trough. By all means buy a game if you actually want to play it but giving away money to a multi-billion dollar company so they might perhaps in the future not do such a poo poo job is actually really pathetic.
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Oct 9, 2014 22:45
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Remember XIII's only minigame? Someone needs to make a mod where you just storm through the entire game with Hope's mech. Although I'd settle with having all the battle mechanics unlocked from the start, and whenever the game gives you a two-character party the third slot is filled with another Sazh.
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Oct 9, 2014 22:46
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Fister Roboto posted:This is a good post. I'm not sure if you were in a coma or what but when the game came out SE knew that it was an unmitigated disaster that would be empty inside of a few months if left unchecked, and they'd eat a huge loss if that happened. Even when YoshiP was put in charge the mindset was largely one of "hopefully we can recouple enough for it to survive" though it still amazed me that as many people bought FF14 at launch as they did. Even at gaming conventions the FF14 setup was unfun as hell and looked terrible. It was a pure brand name sale and SE couldn't really afford to let FF14 crash and burn as one of the worst game launches in history. They got extremely lucky that their employees were able to work miracles. Plus FF14 has a $10 a month sub option. You only get 1 character per server but the game is made for you to only need one character since you can level every class/job on it.
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Oct 9, 2014 22:48
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A Steampunk Gent posted:The only thing you're telling SE by buying a lovely rushed port is that you'll buy any poo poo they shovel in your trough. By all means buy a game if you actually want to play it but giving away money to a multi-billion dollar company so they might perhaps in the future not do such a poo poo job is actually really pathetic. Fister Roboto really didn't say this enough, I'm glad you're repeating it a few more times for him. That's sweet. Evil Fluffy posted:I'm not sure if you were in a coma or what but when the game came out SE knew that it was an unmitigated disaster that would be empty inside of a few months if left unchecked, and they'd eat a huge loss if that happened. Even when YoshiP was put in charge the mindset was largely one of "hopefully we can recouple enough for it to survive" though it still amazed me that as many people bought FF14 at launch as they did. Even at gaming conventions the FF14 setup was unfun as hell and looked terrible. It was a pure brand name sale and SE couldn't really afford to let FF14 crash and burn as one of the worst game launches in history. XI was a pretty drat popular MMO, especially internationally, and you can see how those MMO fans would just hop on the next ship without really asking too many questions. I loved me some XI. Good thing I got into the beta for XIV so I realized immediately it was total poo poo and didn't buy it. ARR is pretty good stuff though, its pretty surprisingly how much they completely redesigned the game from within itself.
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Oct 9, 2014 22:50
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Zaphod42 posted:XI was a pretty drat popular MMO, especially internationally, and you can see how those MMO fans would just hop on the next ship without really asking too many questions. I loved me some XI. Wasn't XI one of the first cross-platform MMOs?
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Oct 9, 2014 22:55
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Kanfy posted:Shame about the lazy port, although it's kind of funny that Square is responsible for one of the best PC ports in gaming as well. Guess it comes down to the specific teams that work on things. This is kinda funny in that the keyboard + mouse controls for FFXIII remind me a lot of the same controls for Last Remnant on PC.
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Oct 9, 2014 23:00
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bloodychill posted:Well, you kind of answered your question partly with the second part of that. I suppose I understand where you're coming from. I've never had the type of revulsion that some people seem to have with his artwork. I don't think I even knew that people did until I found out from people on the internet. Even certain designs that are brought up as "classic Nomura" (in the bad way) like the Musashi re-design with the crazy hair never set off any alarms for me. I'm not exactly sure why this is, maybe it's because the first Final Fantasy game I really got into hard core was Final Fantasy 8, which is probably the first time the classic "Nomura style" was used in a Final Fantasy game, so to me it was just the way Final Fantasy looked. Even poo poo that people like you probably think is weird like Donald's zipper-hat in Kingdom Hearts and a Mickey Mouse that looks like this:  was never off-putting to me because that's what I expected Disney characters to look like in a game put out by the same people who did Final Fantasy. Maybe to the people who were like obsessed with Final Fantasy 4 or 6 on the SNES and then got to see Nomura's ever growing presence after FF7 success things like that mean something different. To be quite honest though the first Final Fantasy design I can distinctly remember people being up in arms about was Vaan from FF12, although maybe that's just because that's around the time I really payed attention to what people on the internet were saying about Final Fantasy.
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Oct 9, 2014 23:01
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SSNeoman posted:Wasn't XI one of the first cross-platform MMOs? Yes, and to this day is still one of very few. Its on PC, PS2, and Xbox 360. And you can play on the same servers. You also play international on the same servers, so there's English speakers running around Japanese speakers, and there's a (limited) auto-translate function. Luckily most of the Japanese gamers speak pretty decent English too, so I got to meet some cool people I didn't even realize lived in another country until they switched to using moon runes to talk to each other.
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Oct 9, 2014 23:02
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I hate so much that I have to finish a quest to unlock a new one with all my cool new music in it
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Oct 9, 2014 23:02
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Zaphod42 posted:Fister Roboto really didn't say this enough, I'm glad you're repeating it a few more times for him. That's sweet. Maybe because he was right??  Sorry to interrupt the knowingly terrible purchase purchase support group.
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Oct 9, 2014 23:03
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Just played some of the XIII port. It's certainly not a great port, but it's not quite as bad as some people are describing it. Not allowing different resolutions hurts and the insta-quit escape button is silly, but it's perfectly functional. I'd forgotten how much better XIII looks compared to 2 or especially LR.
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Oct 9, 2014 23:06
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At the end of the day it runs well on most hardware and doesn't cap at 30FPS, which is the least you can ask for. The fact that they didn't both to offer resolution scaling is extremely lazy, but whatever.
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Oct 9, 2014 23:08
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Spiritus Nox posted:Just played some of the XIII port. It's certainly not a great port, but it's not quite as bad as some people are describing it. Not allowing different resolutions hurts and the insta-quit escape button is silly, but it's perfectly functional. I'd forgotten how much better XIII looks compared to 2 or especially LR. Wait XIII looks better than XIII-2 or LR? I guess they spent like 10 years on XIII while XIII-2 and LR were more rushed out?
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Oct 9, 2014 23:09
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Zaphod42 posted:Wait XIII looks better than XIII-2 or LR? I can't tell if this is sarcasm or legitimate confusion, but yeah. I remember liking how 2 looked okay, but there were parts of LR that just looked like rear end to me - mostly in the two cities. Mind, there were parts that looked really nice, too - I really liked the Ark.
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I haven't played XIII in years but I remember thinking it was pretty much the best looking game I had ever played Until Lightning Returns came along at least: 
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