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logicow posted:My Asus Strix 970 at 1253mhz can pretty much max out games at 2560x1440 at 144hz, so if he has a regular 1080p 60hz display it won't make much of a difference. What kind of games are you playing?
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# ? Apr 18, 2024 13:49 |
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http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3442319
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# ? Oct 11, 2014 05:30 |
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Instant Grat posted:Can people in this thread start appending their "don't ever get WD Greens"-posts with a disclaimer that it is entirely possible to change their "park the head whenever the drive has been idle for 8 seconds"-policy to anywhere up to 5 minutes, or even disable it entirely, without too much difficulty Or you could just not buy them, and instead buy a superior product that's designed to last longer. Just because you can hack a half arsed fix into something doesn't make it a better option than doing it properly and buying the correct thing in the first place.
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# ? Oct 11, 2014 06:09 |
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Is there a good (maybe free?) program that will monitor the computers temperature and notify me if it gets too hot? HWMonitor seems likes good program but it doesn't notify me so it seems kind of pointless since I won't always be actively looking at it.
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# ? Oct 11, 2014 07:13 |
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Dr. Video Games 0089 posted:Is there a good (maybe free?) program that will monitor the computers temperature and notify me if it gets too hot? Coretemp. But honestly if your computer is even in the ballpark of potentially reaching actual unsafe temperatures then something is seriously wrong.
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I stand corrected, thanks guys. I have four severely mismatched sticks myself but obviously I'm not blaming the slower ones for not being able to keep up, in the meantime everything runs great and I'm not about to spend money just to feel better during POSTing. that said, Factory Factory posted:It's harder to get the same high settings with four DIMMs, but otherwise there's no performance penalty to it.
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# ? Oct 11, 2014 07:38 |
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Here's a generic request for parts advice. Performance wise I'm doing okay. But I have a problem. My computer turns off sometimes - at random, instantly. It's rare, happens every two or three weeks, but it's still deeply infuriating. I haven't been in a position to isolate just what the cause of this is. It might be due to damage to the motherboard, it might be the power supply. (It's probably the power supply.) I can't be sure either way. (Even though it's probably the power supply, if I don't replace both, I'm never going to be able to relax.) I put my computer together three years ago, and Black Friday is coming up, so it feels like upgrade season. code:
My first thought was to be a bit conservative - I hit up Logical Increments and checked the Great tier, picked out appropriate replacements. code:
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Basically, are any of these parts overpriced? Is the jump in quality in the graphics card going to be worth my time? Am I ignoring bottlenecks that'll negate my gains?
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# ? Oct 11, 2014 08:08 |
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RiotGearEpsilon posted:Here's a generic request for parts advice. Logical increments is not a useful method of selecting things, many of the recommendations on that site are complete crap. You absolutely need a new CPU and motherboard; Personally, I would also suggest you upgrade your GPU - A 6950 is pretty low end by current standards; the gtx970 is crazy overkill for 1080p, and you could get something cheaper and still have it be substantially faster than your current card, but the performance per dollar of the 970 is so crazy that it's become our default recommendation. You'd probably be more than doubling your performance. You've said you want to retire your PSU, if only for piece of mind, and that's fair enough. I'd also retire the hard drives, since they are beginning to reach imminent failure age; and getting an SSD would be a massive improvement. That garbage case is also unsightly. So what you really need is a whole new computer. I suppose it boils down now to: What is your budget? and: do you want to mess around with overclocking? Answer those and we'll put together a parts list for you. The Lord Bude fucked around with this message at 08:19 on Oct 11, 2014 |
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It's still not out, but BitTech has a Phantek Enthoo Evolv review out: http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cases/2014/10/10/phanteks-enthoo-evolv-review/1 Looking at the temperature test results: http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cases/2014/10/10/phanteks-enthoo-evolv-review/1 Apparently this thing called the Silverstone SUGO SG10 kicks the rear end of every other MicroATX case, including the Enthoo Evolv and Nanoxia Deep Silence 4 and Fractal Design Arc Mini R2 and Aerocool Dead Silence cube, huh. http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cases/2013/07/08/silverstone-sugo-sg10-review/1 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811163237 http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CY9596U/ So it looks like one of those super small SFF cases, but with MicroATX with a layout similar to the Prodigy M (MicroATX), but with everything crammed together about at compact as possible and with a giant 180mm fan blowing down directly onto the CPU cooler. No wonder it gets such good results. http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cases/2013/07/08/silverstone-sugo-sg10-review/3 Looks like the only thing that matches or beats it is the TJ08-E, which also has a 180mm fan that can be cranked up real high blowing directly on the CPU. I don't know why the Enthoo Evolv can't match it, but I presume it's because the Evolv's giant front fan 200mm fan can't be cranked up as high as the TJ08E or Sugo SG10. Anyway, other than it being really small and cramped and probably a pain to do the initial build in, similar to the Prodigy M (MicroATX), is there any reason the SG10 isn't recommended more highly?
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# ? Oct 11, 2014 09:13 |
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Cardboard Box A posted:It's still not out, but BitTech has a Phantek Enthoo Evolv review out: Silverstone cases tend to be: 1. expensive 2. really hard to build in for relatively inexperienced builders - Silverstone does some really neat things with cramming ridiculous amounts of computer into small and unusual form factors, but actually assembling a pc in those things can be a real puzzle. In addition, that review isn't providing the full picture - noise. Those 180mm silverstone fans aren't called air penetrators for nothing. At higher speeds they sound like jet engines. The Phanteks fans are designed to cool quietly.
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# ? Oct 11, 2014 09:20 |
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The Lord Bude posted:Silverstone cases tend to be: I know you ain't a fan of Silverstone but i wonder how the SG10 would work with Noctuas instead of penetrators.
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Just Another Lurker posted:I know you ain't a fan of Silverstone but i wonder how the SG10 would work with Noctuas instead of penetrators. I'm a fan of certain silverstone cases - The RVZ01 for example, which is both reasonably priced, and fills the unique niche of being an ultra tiny mITX case that can fit gaming grade hardware. I just think many silverstone cases aren't good value compared to alternatives, and I place a high value on a case being user friendly to build in. The SG10 is a pretty reasonable price, and I suppose the tiny size makes up for the horrid interior, but if you were to replace the fans with Noctuas you'd be doubling the cost of the case - it'd be much quieter though. My preference though is for cases with fewer, larger quiet fans. The SG10 has that noisy air penetrator, AND 2x 120mm fans. I'd rather go with the RVZ01 for the super tiny demographic though, and the bitfenix prodigy for the moderately tiny demographic; and I think the Nanoxia DS4 (quiet mATX tower and Evolv (premium all round mATX) are better options for mid tower folk. I used to recommend the obsidian 350D, but now that the 450D exists I think it's a much better buy for most people despite the larger size.
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The Lord Bude posted:...post... Appreciate the clarification. I nearly went with the SG10 but went for a CM Elite 130 (i currently have it standing on its face & raised up on two bits of wood to help airflow until i replace the "front" fan for a static pressure one), it's insane but it works (looks like a poor mans Silverstone FT03).
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# ? Oct 11, 2014 13:46 |
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Just Another Lurker posted:Appreciate the clarification. That's actually a pretty good tiny case choice, for anyone happy to stick to a low profile air cooler. I'd ditch the silly 80mm fan side fan though.
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The Lord Bude posted:I used to recommend the obsidian 350D, but now that the 450D exists I think it's a much better buy for most people despite the larger size. I have a 350D and like the case a lot, but I wish I'd have gotten a 450D. It's bigger, but I could have used it for an ATX case down the road if I wanted to, it also has an included top dust filter and dual front 140mm fans.
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# ? Oct 11, 2014 15:09 |
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The Lord Bude posted:That's actually a pretty good tiny case choice, for anyone happy to stick to a low profile air cooler. I'd ditch the silly 80mm fan side fan though. First thing i did; what i read and saw about it said the 80mm was just extra noise for no benefit, i'm very happy with it.
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Just Another Lurker posted:First thing i did; what i read and saw about it said the 80mm was just extra noise for no benefit, i'm very happy with it. If you really want to go crazy you could fit the thing out with demciflex filters for those side panels - is the PSU intake and front intake filtered?
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Brain Issues posted:I have a 350D and like the case a lot, but I wish I'd have gotten a 450D. It's bigger, but I could have used it for an ATX case down the road if I wanted to, it also has an included top dust filter and dual front 140mm fans. You can spend $10 on a demciflex filter for the top vents if you wanted - but corsair really needs to release an updated 350D to account for the improvements the 450D brought to the table.
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# ? Oct 11, 2014 15:41 |
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Getting a spare i7-920 and Asus P6T from someone, what kind of graphics card should I look at getting?
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Hi, I'm putting together a PC for my Dad. I live a fair distance away and he wants nothing to do with building it himself or dicking about getting parts from the old one so PC Specialist it is. No specific needs in mind other than general gaming and office use at 1080p. No hard limit on cost but good value is always better. I've specced: Coolermaster Elite 311 (£35) i5-4590 M-ATX ASUS Z97M-Plus 8GB Kingston Dual-DDR3 1600MHz 2GB Radeon R9 270X 250GB Samsung 840 EVO SSD 1TB WD Caviar Black 24x DVD Drive Card Reader Corsair 550 VS Series Standard CPU Cooler, sound, LAN, USB Windows 8.1 64-bit (he has XP at the moment so no free upgrade) Microsoft Office Home 2013 No monitor, peripherals, extra warranty, setup or anything like that. Comes to £923. Obviously I'm quite constrained by what PC Specialist will let me do but if there's anything wrong with that set up or any corners to be cut, I'd love to know. Is there anything I can do with the HDD? I could save £15 going to the green version but I don't know if that's a worthwhile downgrade. Unfortunately, the blue version the OP recommends isn't an option. Also, MS Office, am I likely to beable to get a much better deal than the £85 charged here? He doesn't like OpenOffice. I couldn't find a better prebuilt deal but I'm open to suggestions on those. Thanks!
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razorscooter posted:Getting a spare i7-920 and Asus P6T from someone, what kind of graphics card should I look at getting? Gtx970 if you can afford it.
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The Lord Bude posted:If you really want to go crazy you could fit the thing out with demciflex filters for those side panels - is the PSU intake and front intake filtered? I got four of those to be exact, for front intake, psu vent & 2 for the gpu intake(two squares were cheaper than a long rectangle). They are damned good filters btw. EDIT to clarify: The 130 came with mesh filters for front & psu that looked far too big in diameter to be useful and absolutely nothing for the sides. Just Another Lurker fucked around with this message at 18:10 on Oct 11, 2014 |
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Walton Simons posted:Hi, I'm putting together a PC for my Dad. I live a fair distance away and he wants nothing to do with building it himself or dicking about getting parts from the old one so PC Specialist it is. In the configurator, select the top left starting point - Home/Office computers. That will let you get an H97 board to go with the non overclocking processor. Other than that, If you can afford to spend more on the graphics card, it wouldn't hurt. I'd get a carbide 200R for 45 pounds over that coolermaster case. You don't need a WD black - just get the generic 1tb option. Maybe add a hyper212 evo CPU cooler. That's a pretty low end power supply, but the only decent option on that list is the RM850, which is wattage overkill. Are there no regular PC stores near you that charge an added fee to assemble a PC from your list of ordered parts? why does it have to be PC specialist? I've got to get to bed but a quick google shows me a place called novotech that looks like it will assemble the PC for you if you give them a list of the parts you want. No idea if it's any good. The Lord Bude fucked around with this message at 18:25 on Oct 11, 2014 |
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Walton Simons posted:Hi, I'm putting together a PC for my Dad. I live a fair distance away and he wants nothing to do with building it himself or dicking about getting parts from the old one so PC Specialist it is. What would be considered general gaming for him? Are the games he plays demanding or fairly light? Also you should avoid Green/Black drives and opt for a WD Red for storage.
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The Lord Bude posted:In the configurator, select the top left starting point - Home/Office computers. That will let you get an H97 board to go with the non overclocking processor. Thanks a lot for those tips, even with a bump up to an R9 280 and a nicer case, we're down to £904. I would have liked a different PSU, but I trust Corsair in general. I went for PC Specialist simply because I know they're reliable, there was a guy who built PCs near here around 8 years ago but no sign of him now. I've seen some truly lovely independent PC places spring up here before so I'm wary of anywhere new. Titor posted:What would be considered general gaming for him? Are the games he plays demanding or fairly light? Also you should avoid Green/Black drives and opt for a WD Red for storage. He plays all sorts. He's not played many big releases for a while as a lot of them either don't support XP or chug on the old PC. I think Sniper Elite 2 and 3 might be up next, along with the new Jagged Alliance when that comes out of early access and probably GRiD Autosport.
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The Lord Bude posted:Logical increments is not a useful method of selecting things, many of the recommendations on that site are complete crap. quote:You absolutely need a new CPU and motherboard quote:I'd also retire the hard drives, since they are beginning to reach imminent failure age; and getting an SSD would be a massive improvement. quote:That garbage case is also unsightly. So what you really need is a whole new computer. I suppose if I got a whole new computer I could just sell the old one in one piece, which would make shipping it out a lot simpler… …Alright, I'm convinced. I'm willing to discuss building a new one from the ground up. quote:What is your budget? quote:do you want to mess around with overclocking? quote:Answer those and we'll put together a parts list for you.
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# ? Oct 11, 2014 19:42 |
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My 6~ year old computer (Q6600 and an 8800 GTS 512) has just about reached its limits and I'm looking to build another one. It'll be used pretty much exclusively for gaming. PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($239.99 @ Newegg) CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Newegg) Motherboard: ASRock Z97 PRO4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($99.99 @ Newegg) Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($73.80 @ Newegg) Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($150.98 @ Newegg) Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($88.97 @ OutletPC) Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GB Twin Frozr V Video Card ($349.99 @ B&H) Power Supply: SeaSonic G 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($86.98 @ Newegg) Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ OutletPC) Total: $1140.67 I'm probably going to do some minor overclocking with the thing. Currently using a 1080p display but I want to upgrade to 1440p at some point without changing anything in the case. Speaking of, I think it looks good so far but I'm not sure what case I should get with it.
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# ? Oct 11, 2014 22:02 |
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New thread: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3671266 Let's take questions there; sorry for making folks repost. Waiting on a mod can close this up and sticky the new one.
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Thanks Factory Factory!
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# ? Oct 11, 2014 22:30 |