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Allyn posted:Loads and loads. DOOM used Lemon Grass himself as King Geedorah on Krazy World, Myrtle Leaf's on the same Geedorah album too but I forget which track (still an instrumental on there tho, if memory serves). There are others from the set on there too (Sarsaparilla, Untitled Meditation). Joey Bada$$ used Pennyroyal and Datura Stramonium on 1999. Ghostface's Fishscale has a whole bunch too (Four Thieves Vinegar, Orange Blossoms, Fenugreek, Sumac Berries among them). This is the type of thing I find super interesting thanks! What about "Monosodium Glutamate" - I swear this is used on another DOOM song but cant recall which? Anyway, im putting together a playlist on Spotify. edit: \/\/\/\/ ahhhh yupp, thank you for resolving my brain fart  I was thinking Rhinestone Cowboy for some reason but that is a Madlib beat. It's not exactly easy to browse Doom's ridiculously huge catalogue and various monikers 
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Another Person posted:I think there is more than 3 hours of Special Herbs sets, I have quite a few of them and they are all like 20 tracks. I think it comes to like 7 or so hours of beats. And every one of them is amazing. Doom gets credit when his stuff gets used. You're confusing the samples for the beats. Book of Soul uses a different beat, it just has the same sample. Allyn posted:Loads and loads. DOOM used Lemon Grass himself as King Geedorah on Krazy World, Myrtle Leaf's on the same Geedorah album too but I forget which track (still an instrumental on there tho, if memory serves). There are others from the set on there too (Sarsaparilla, Untitled Meditation). Joey Bada$$ used Pennyroyal and Datura Stramonium on 1999. Ghostface's Fishscale has a whole bunch too (Four Thieves Vinegar, Orange Blossoms, Fenugreek, Sumac Berries among them). As an aside, part of the reason Born Like This wasn't better received was because a bunch of the special herbs beats were used on there-dudes who had been following him for awhile already knew them so it gave the album kinda a mixtape feel (the old version, where dudes would just grab other beats to rhyme over). The stuff on the Neruvian project were some of the first original Doom beats I've heard in like 15 years (outside of the random Trunks EP which wasn't even released, and I'm not sure was even handled by Doom outside of the song he pulled from the Gheedora album) As for the attention he receives, I'm pretty sure he's not lacking, given the fact that he never really "broke" through. He was one of the indie rap dudes who still had a lot of credibility with dudes who preferred more "street" oriented stuff. Also you see tons of younger dudes still naming him as an influence and talking about his music (not to mention most of the 90's throwback dudes all hopping on his beats). His career is kinda odd, because he had a super-productive period and right when he seemed to be about to at least get some minor mainstream attention, dude just kinda disappeared (that's also when the doomposters started showing up at his shows). He did the DangerDoom album for adult swim (when Danger Mouse was still big from "Crazy"), and was on all sorts of stuff for Adult Swim. There was talk of Madvillain 2, the Ghost/Doom project, all sorts of stuff. But instead there was just nothing, and he kinda disappeared. There were lots of rumors about him being near-death and I don't think there was ever any interview or story where he really said why he quit making stuff for that period. Dude's always been my fav rap guy and I'd put his stuff up against any one else in rap in terms of quality or w/e. Also in the old thread I made a giant Doom post about where to start with his stuff and w/e if anyone wants to go looking. I may do another if people want that cause the old thread's probably archives now. alansmithee fucked around with this message at 17:40 on Oct 12, 2014 |
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To me the drums laid over the sample on Book of Soul and Burdock Root that creates "the beat" is very similar if not identical though. Even if it is technically a different beat they employ the sample in the exact same fashion  It's one of those gray area things that comes with the territory I guess.Here's the source as Alan pointed out - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yd9p_KqVCQs edit: they even sped up the sample to what sounds like the same tempo edit 2: aaaand now that I've pored over all of these songs I admit Book of Soul and Burdock Root aren't identical but still suspiciously similar. thathonkey fucked around with this message at 18:39 on Oct 12, 2014 |
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alansmithee posted:Also in the old thread I made a giant Doom post about where to start with his stuff and w/e if anyone wants to go looking. I may do another if people want that cause the old thread's probably archives now. Yeah, I remember that because I asked for it. And yeah, Burdock Root and Book of Soul are almost exactly identical. I would be mega pissed if I heard some guy made something so close to something I already did without at least dropping an influence mention. e: alansmithee posted:For production work, I'd go with King Geedorah and MF Grimm-Downfall of Ibllys. He's rapping on some of the stuff on there (and I Hear Voices pt. 1 on the Grimm album is actually just a Doom track from one of the singles for Op: Doomsday) but it's mostly other dudes rapping. Geedorah also has the track I mentioned before with that Trunks dude, so you may wanna try tracking down the EP he did. Another Person fucked around with this message at 18:32 on Oct 12, 2014 |
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TenaciousTomato posted:Does DDOM credit Bobby McFerrin? I don't have the physical copies of special herbs, so I'm not 100% sure on every sample, but on one of the releases of MF DOOM samples, it has that McFerrin song on there in its entirety
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Boywhiz88 posted:Blackland Radio 66.6. I listened to this properly for this first time last week, I'd written of SGP after his newer stuff but Blackland 66.6 is so good. It nails the vibe of stuff like early Three 6 Mafia.
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Freddie Gibbs & ESGN - Dollaz Gibbs throwing his no-name homies on tracks is interesting. They aren't nearly as good as him or really all that interesting, but fresh voices (in the case of whoever the first guy is on this track) and smooth flows with some new Gibbs are all good.
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I bought a ticket to see the Deniro Farrar / Denzel Curry tour later this week, have any goons caught them coming through their towns and can tell me what the setlist was like? Did Denzel play anything from prior to Nostalgic 64?
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I AM BRAWW posted:Freddie Gibbs & ESGN - Dollaz That first dude is G-Wiz, probably my favourite Gibbs associate https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1hnHqrumPw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LC5doWnV00I https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edxStudbK0U
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Crumbletron posted:That first dude is G-Wiz, probably my favourite Gibbs associate He's probably the best dude he brings on for songs. I still keep Pinata on rotation, god drat Gibbs does well with someone laying track. And for some reason I really really like Lil Dicky. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBhouVb8G04 It's fun poo poo.
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Thanks RTJ http://www.stereogum.com/1711347/run-the-jewels-close-your-eyes-and-count-to-gently caress-feat-zack-de-la-rocha/mp3s/ pretend the song ends at 2:40 spoils fucked around with this message at 18:06 on Oct 13, 2014 |
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spoils posted:gently caress Buzzfeed, but thanks RTJ ZDLR's verse was way better than I expected, I'm ok with it and vote that post "WIN, LOL, and <3"
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I searched the thread quick and didn't see anything mentioned about this. Dillon Cooper has been releasing new stuff weekly from his upcoming release. The mixtape is called "X.XX" and release date is Oct 20. https://soundcloud.com/thedilloncooper/dillon-cooper-bright-lights https://soundcloud.com/thedilloncooper/knuckle-up-prod-by-canis-major I'm looking forward to it a lot. "Cozmik" was one of my favourite mixtapes of 2013 and I still listen to it a lot.
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Crumbletron posted:That first dude is G-Wiz, probably my favourite Gibbs associate Ahhh yeah I had thought I'd heard him before, thanks! Of all the ESGN dudes I think he's the one that sticks out the most since I usually remember his name.
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Robert Analog posted:ZDLR's verse was way better than I expected, I'm ok with it and vote that post "WIN, LOL, and <3"
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Do any US rapper use UK Grime beats? I always thought those were perfect for freestyles.
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spoils posted:Thanks RTJ im so loving HYPE for this album also i voted The REAL Goobusters fucked around with this message at 21:43 on Oct 13, 2014 |
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So late posting, but best Game song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8e1G0jPQTA Combining thread favorites R&B + Yung Gud, awesome remix of Tinashe - 2 On: https://soundcloud.com/gud-2/tinashe-2-on-yung-gud-remix
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uncleKitchener posted:Do any US rapper use UK Grime beats? I always thought those were perfect for freestyles. Danny Brown's the only one I've noticed ever doing it. He works with a bunch of UK guys, not just Grime ones.
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Was that the real video? Really shows off his fence-jumping skills.
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Gaggins posted:Was that the real video? Really shows off his fence-jumping skills. Nah, some terrible fan video. I doubt there was a real video, it's off Stop Snitchin, Stop Lyin which is a pretty good tape all around.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWgvGjAhvIw What's cooler than cool? Ice cold! New G-unit gets me excited.. hearing them makes me think of Jay-z 'Lyrical Exercise' or something. The anger is missing though.. maybe they all got official girlfriends? e: I have been sleeping on G-unit as NY influences the last couple years, although Fitty has put out the occasional quality track A3th3r fucked around with this message at 23:41 on Oct 13, 2014 |
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What G-Unit had was HUNGER. It oozed out of every track they did. Listen to their first albums/mixtapes and the obvious effort put into them. Few came in as hard as they did and did it consistently. Yes it's different now but they're still pretty good and the reunion has seemed to reinvigorate 50's creativity.
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I can't be the only person who's excited that a new DJ Quik album comes out TOMORROW. This is a momentous occasion for west coast rap.
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doctor thodt posted:I can't be the only person who's excited that a new DJ Quik album comes out TOMORROW. This is a momentous occasion for west coast rap. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2HxZGNTfBM
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A3th3r posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWgvGjAhvIw What's cooler than cool? Ice cold! lmao
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Beg For Mercy still holds up as a pretty great album, it's the peak quintessential Shady/Aftermath 2000s sound.
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thathonkey posted:
For a second I thought this cover was from ten years ago.
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thathonkey posted:
They are easily the best rap group out right now though? Black Hippy doesn't do anything, A$AP Mob had an awful mixtap and can't even put together another project, and Odd Future...well... All the one-off songs they've released since getting back together has been awesome and Beauty of Independence was really good. 50 can still hold his own, Banks never fell off, Young Buck makes Flocka and Meek mill sound like they're on tranquilizers, Yayo is still one of the most entertaining hype men and rappers ever, and Kidd Kidd has stepped it up considerably. One of the best groups ever.
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I bought it until you started complimenting Yayo. Like, one of the major reasons Beg For Mercy is the best they'll ever do is Yayo being in jail. He's okay being on like 1-2 songs an album. the three man Banks-50-Buck dynamic is just right in terms of balance anyway. I admit it sounded cool as a kid that one week where it seemed like Game was gonna be part of G-Unit...but it probably would've gotten crowded. Punkin Spunkin fucked around with this message at 02:59 on Oct 14, 2014 |
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Game will never be part of G-Unit again because it's way deeper than rap. He aligned himself with Jimmy Henchman who had Yayo's moms house shot up and the same guy that got Pac shot in 94. (edit: I misread your post and thought you said you thought Game was gonna be back when they reunited. Yeah it either could have been too crowded or made them easily the biggest rap group of the 2000s even though they pretty much already were) Yayo wasn't always an eh rapper: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RM7HnRnXc4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNyYqbaLFv8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bztXQzHLLM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01IeeWUy574 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aj5JzTwGNJo 7 RING SHRIMP fucked around with this message at 03:20 on Oct 14, 2014 |
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A3th3r posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWgvGjAhvIw What's cooler than cool? Ice cold! Also, nice to see some new stuff from Andre 3000.
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uncleKitchener posted:Do any US rapper use UK Grime beats? I always thought those were perfect for freestyles. Google 'street bass compilations' and you'll find a whole shitload of albums by the label Seclusiasis. They are basically putting grime-ish instrumentals under rap with varying success. https://soundcloud.com/streetbassbootlegs3/17-mike-jones-turnin-headz For example^ I put that song in a mix I did, its very heavy.
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tony yayo is a poor man's french montana. same struggle bars but a fraction of the charisma. this track was real though https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Z77EvRGYvo
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That legitimately may be the worst comparison I've heard in here. Yayo is pretty much entirely charisma and I love frenchs music
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