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K8.0 posted:It looks awesome because the combat system is the same trash from the Arkham games, cinematic button mashing with integrated QTEs. At that point you may as well just watch a movie because they look even cooler and you don't have to mash one button and press three others when the game prompts you to. If you support this kinda crap in another 10 years all we'll have is a market full of David Cage games. Sega CD FMV games weren't bad, they were just 30 years ahead of their time 
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spasticColon posted:Well then maybe I'll just get an R9 290 for around $300 instead. I refuse to play Shadow of Mordor and The Evil Within on "Medium" settings. The Evil Within's system requirements were a mistake in translation from Japanese developers who really don't give a poo poo about PC as a platform. Bethesda is now telling people in the official forums that the requirement is "8GB of VRAM + RAM added together", and that it will run well on 1GB cards. This is following an initial announcement where they recommended 4GB GTX 670 over a 3GB 780 Ti.
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K8.0 posted:It looks awesome because the combat system is the same trash from the Arkham games, cinematic button mashing with integrated QTEs. At that point you may as well just watch a movie because they look even cooler and you don't have to mash one button and press three others when the game prompts you to. If you support this kinda crap in another 10 years all we'll have is a market full of David Cage games. rendering interactive virtual reality porn
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Skwee posted:rendering interactive virtual reality porn GTseX 1080Ta on the horizon.
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It wouldn't shock me if nVidia and AMD are privately fighting it out for the rights to call their cards the AMD Radeon or nVidia Geforce 4Kx. The naming convention will have a 3-5 year lifespan as 4K gradually becomes the new 1080/1200p.
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Oct 13, 2014 03:43
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GeForce Ultra (HD) is back, baby!
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Should refresh thread after an hour next time. Rime fucked around with this message at 03:53 on Oct 13, 2014 |
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No, because he is. This also isn't the thread to poorly explain your dumb thoughts on a game.
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how long do we expect the 970 to last as a good card? 2-3 years? planning to get 2 for SLI or is a 980 better for long term?
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Don Tacorleone posted:how long do we expect the 970 to last as a good card? 2-3 years? planning to get 2 for SLI You can expect what makes you happy, but it's still going to be kinda lovely compared to the next big thing (which is awesome, progress rocks, but still). A wiser purchase than a 980 would be two 970s - either way you're getting not-totally-ideal performance, but at least with SLI it's mainly to due with how compatible the game is as opposed to "sorry, one card won't play this poo poo very well  "We know gently caress and all about long-term anything right now. We're kind of edging up on a bunch of serious poo poo in computing hardware development and production, positive and negative. Still, there's no damned way the ecosystem is changing THAT much in 2-3 years. But we'll just have to wait and see if nV did a really good job with their implementation of DX12 this hardware generation, since as of current it's a pleasant thing to think about that likely won't be realized until the useful life of the card is over. Same can't be said for many of the features they're offering, but that's a major one that I think is being used a little bit carelessly (well, to be more accurate, it's marketing fluff right now - maybe it'll be great later, but dev cycle being what it is, that'll likely be a job for GTX *whatever). Generally speaking, if you're weighing single 980 vs. two 970s, you're only better off getting the 980 if you genuinely need ~10-15% more performance than 970s provide and refuse to use SLI. It makes more sense for a very small subset of folks who are running a dual-card SLI setup but not willing to try 3 or something like that, feeding a lot of pixels across multiple monitors where performance scaling starts to really eat poo poo. That's major edge-case territory, reserved for people who are exceeding 1600p by a lot one way or another. Two 970s is actually, finally adequate for current-gen 4K gaming if that is your kick, but if you go any higher than that and don't want to deal with microstuttering and poor performance scaling with 3+ cards, you might actually benefit from going with two 980s over two 970s. One 980 is just not a great purchase. Whole lot of money for that extra ~10-15% performance. Agreed fucked around with this message at 06:27 on Oct 13, 2014 |
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Agreed posted:One 980 is just not a great purchase. Whole lot of money for that extra ~10-15% performance.
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Star War Sex Parrot posted:Yeah but I want it. This is why it exists, to both create and satisfy that desire I'd probably get one this generation but the last thing I did was replace a loving 780 with a 780Ti. I'd like to say lesson learned, but I've probably learned more from just paying attention to games I actually play instead of poo poo that's graphically neat and coming to market at some point in the future, by which time reviews will reveal that it's a pretty mediocre experience and Tower of Guns is more fun or some poo poo. If it's hard to justify a high end purchase at all, it'd be absolutely impossible to justify a 980 right now.But... I do want one. What can ya do, gadgets are fun.
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Agreed posted:You can expect what makes you happy, but it's still going to be kinda lovely compared to the next big thing (which is awesome, progress rocks, but still). A wiser purchase than a 980 would be two 970s - either way you're getting not-totally-ideal performance, but at least with SLI it's mainly to due with how compatible the game is as opposed to "sorry, one card won't play this poo poo very well My last gpu purchase was an 8800GT from nvidia and it lasted me until around 2010 when my job forced me to use a laptop. I expect to be blown away by these new cards. Probably will go with the 970 because 980 is too rich for my blood, specially SLI. I've missed pc games since about 2011 - Anything Skyrim and onwards I generally didn't play because my laptop was too lovely to run them.
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Ak Gara posted:Visually, the msi 970 gaming 4g looks amazing, but with pretty much every good looking GPU they get installed arse end up so your cool tower window has a view of the back of the GPU with it's boring ugly circuit board. At least some have a back plate. We should go back to AGP to make our setups look cooler again.
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Star War Sex Parrot posted:Yeah but I want it. I wholeheartedly endorse this as a perfectly valid and entirely adequate justification for the purchase of expensive luxury items.
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peak debt posted:We should go back to AGP to make our setups look cooler again. AGP reminds me of the S3 Virge. Then I cry.
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peak debt posted:We should go back to AGP to make our setups look cooler again. I'm just gonna turn my tower upside down.
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Ak Gara posted:I'm just gonna turn my tower upside down. Or just buy silverstone, they'll do it for you. So will certain bitfenix cases.
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I'm getting a 280x for 160 shipped. It's only 2 months old, according to the listing on ebay, and the warranty will transfer. This should suffice for 1080p gaming on my 4770k. I'm not chasing the dragon, y'all.
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Mad_Lion posted:I'm not chasing the dragon, y'all. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chasing_the_dragon http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Chasing+the+dragon hehehe edit: actually I'm dumb one of those links says people sometimes use the phrase to refer to chasing anything elusive, I'd never heard that meaning only the drugs meaning so that's why I was amused
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I get my 970 gigabyte G1 today. Ugh its gonna be a long day at work.
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Mad_Lion posted:I'm getting a 280x for 160 shipped. It's only 2 months old, according to the listing on ebay, and the warranty will transfer. This should suffice for 1080p gaming on my 4770k.
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cisco privilege posted:It should run fine. Mine's only really struggled with maxed-out Shadow of Mordor and (the horribly-optimized) Stalker Clear Sky, but poo poo like Alien Isolation or Tomb Raider runs great without bothering to turn anything down. I did just get a 290 to swap from it, but that's more from getting a deal I couldn't refuse vs. being dissatisfied with the 280X.  my 680 could max Clear Sky in DX10 with replaced, higher quality assets. 780Ti chews through it and CoP as well, regardless of renderer. Clear Sky is a buggy mess stock but what are you running that is making it hard to play with a card that ought to be able to run it twice-over and get excellent framerates?
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Bought a EVGA 970 sc with the 1.0 fans and no backplate. Heard there was also trouble with coin whine. EVGA is giving out free backplates for the cards though. Crossing my fingers I won't be hosed to hard. Should be a solid upgrade from my 570 and hopefully help with vr sickness due to low framerates. Edit: Forgot the EVGA backplate link: http://www.evga.com/articles/00876/EVGAs-Got-Your-Back/ Floor is lava fucked around with this message at 18:20 on Oct 13, 2014 |
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Well the 980s will be getting returned this week. I did all the usual DDU stuff and still half the time I boot up I get no picture until I unplug and replug the DVI connection which isn't even being used. Adding the 2nd card makes no display happen at all. I will say I do like the implementation of surround better on Nvidia than AMD. Even with the 3 monitors spanned, it still understands that there are 3 monitors and fullscreen works properly under each individual monitor. Also, these things run at 87C on the Titan cooler with no overclock at all.
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Does the Titan cooler even make full contact with the area it is intended to cool? We've already seen the consequences of assuming that a reused cooler design will cool this card. It runs cooler than a Kepler card with that many transistors would, by a long shot, but it's still a heck of a workload, and it seems like companies are banking on its inherently good thermals to avoid having to spend more money for cooling. If the heat sink is making lovely contact that'd explain it - just "not quite optimal" is enough that EVGA gets a lot of understandable poo poo, though it cools fine.
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beejay posted:Again I have to ask, what does a backplate do to help these EVGA cards? If you're talking about the issue of the heatsink only covering part of the chip, then absolutely nothing.
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Agreed posted:Does the Titan cooler even make full contact with the area it is intended to cool? We've already seen the consequences of assuming that a reused cooler design will cool this card. It runs cooler than a Kepler card with that many transistors would, by a long shot, but it's still a heck of a workload, and it seems like companies are banking on its inherently good thermals to avoid having to spend more money for cooling. Don't know, and considering that they are Asus cards, I'm not going to pop the seal when I can just return them to Microcenter.
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Gigabyte G1-Gaming (GTX 970) is in stock at Newegg in case you've been  for that particular card.http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125684&cm_re=GTX_970-_-14-125-684-_-Product
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I ordered a Gigabyte G1 970 a week ago on amazon and they couldn't tell me anything regarding when i'd get it, so I just saw some in stock on Newegg and pulled the trigger there. Worst case scenerio I end up with two of them? If that happens I'll sell a goon the spare for no markup. Yep that one! edit: holy poo poo the status is already packaging and they took my money?!? Gentwise fucked around with this message at 20:50 on Oct 13, 2014 |
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I too had ordered the G1 from amazon when it was out of stock, waited a week still nothing. Saw it in stock at newegg on Friday, it will be delivered today. Canceled the order from amazon, still out of stock anyway. edit: out of stock again at newegg.
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I have to wait for my G1 until Wednesday, I guess I live on the wrong coast. For content, does anything think it's likely that the drivers can be update for the G1 to kill it's fans at idle? I kinda liked that the MSI did that.
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dreesemonkey posted:I have to wait for my G1 until Wednesday, I guess I live on the wrong coast. It would have to be a BIOS update for the card to reduce fan speed at idle. I'm not worried about it, I doubt I will be able to hear it over the other fans in my case.
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I may be dog-sick, but at least I'll be home to install that 970 ASAP tomorrow, yessss/kill me.
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I don't know if this question has a real answer, or if it's better asked in the PC Building thread, but is there an agreed-upon ranking for Nvidia manufacturers right now, specifically for the 970? From following this thread and the other one, it seems to be: 1) MSI/Gigabyte? 2) ASUS 3) Zotac 4) EVGA But I have no idea if I'm missing any of them or if that's simply incorrect.
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EVGA is still a great manufacturer. This was a gently caress-up but not existential. I feel similarly toward Zotac's weird power throttling despite overprovisioning for power delivery. Both companies still make great products, they're just not as good as alternatives if you end up with one of the affected models. Still, I wouldn't buy non-reference models from either right now, even if I desperately needed a graphics card, just because that money can be better spent at this very moment.
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Agreed posted:EVGA is still a great manufacturer. This was a gently caress-up but not existential. I feel similarly toward Zotac's weird power throttling despite overprovisioning for power delivery. Both companies still make great products, they're just not as good as alternatives if you end up with one of the affected models. The Zotac power throttling wasn't even in a production card, and in fact they specifically said they would address the issue before production.
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Schiavona posted:I don't know if this question has a real answer, or if it's better asked in the PC Building thread, but is there an agreed-upon ranking for Nvidia manufacturers right now, specifically for the 970? From following this thread and the other one, it seems to be: MSI's fan issues would easily put it below Gigabyte or Asus, IMO.
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