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I can confirm Silent Hill works on PSTV through a PS3 transfer. Crappy Vine proof Both YouTube and Netflix apps won't work. 
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Yechezkel posted:I can confirm Silent Hill works on PSTV through a PS3 transfer. Crappy Vine proof I'm like 99% positive the PSTV PSP/PSX compatibility is the same hosed up deal as it was on Vita when they first came about. It'll work just publishers (Konami) refuse to put a cent towards re-licensing an old game.
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Oct 14, 2014 23:52
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 Soul Sacrifice Delta worksAlso Akiba'S trip and Mutant Mudds Deluxe So I'm pretty sure any PSP or PS1 classics work the same as on regular Vita, so if they needed PS3 transfers before, they still do (although if you got them to a regular Vita already you have options from there that don't require a PS3 anymore). Doesn't Work Flower FlOw Sound Shapes Surge Deluxe I just thought of a few more titles to test so will probably do one more pass. Also I don't own any but none of the Hyperdimension Neptunia games are on the PS TV store so I'm guessing none of those work. Also not that anyone cares but a few games have English-only and French-only versions, and only the English ones are listed on the PSTV store. I would pretty much assume at this point that anything not listed on the PSTV store doesn't work at all, and am pretty sure my list is essentially good but if you notice any discrepancies let me know. univbee fucked around with this message at 00:23 on Oct 15, 2014 |
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Oct 15, 2014 00:19
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What about Metal Gear Solid?quote:Doesn't Work  I swear, they released an update saying it would work with PSTV.It doesn't work on my end either, even with the latest update out today. I hate that quitting a single game or app always leads to the Featured LiveArea, not the bubble menus. Yechezkel fucked around with this message at 00:31 on Oct 15, 2014 |
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Oct 15, 2014 00:28
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Yechezkel posted:What about Metal Gear Solid? Might be a Japan-only thing atm, but then again maybe it was just some confusion like a translation error from Japanese news or something. Are you sure the Japanese version works? I'm going to test MGS to be sure (about to test Peace Walker PSP).
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Oct 15, 2014 00:30
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I just got one of these things. Can I just pop in the memory card from my Vita into this and not have to re-download all those games/save files?
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Oct 15, 2014 00:31
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As long as you activate the PSTV with your PSN account before putting in the memory card, yes.
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Oct 15, 2014 00:32
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Nice, thanks! I'd like to get another 32gb memory card, or maybe the 64gb, but they're so drat expensive. Ugh.
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Oct 15, 2014 00:33
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Good news on VC2. Keep meaning to do a playthrough on that and this will give me the incentive. I really hope though that SAO gets patched to work soon.
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Oct 15, 2014 00:41
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If anyone has any specific testing requests for something not on Sony's compatibility list, feel free and I'll indulge you if I can. Doing a game batch right now but it's probably the last one I'll do without specific requests. Anyone confirm if SAO launches or not?
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Oct 15, 2014 00:47
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Why does the Cruchyroll app work but not Netflix or Youtube? Facebook app does not work iFruit does not work  Touch my Katamari does not work Dragon Ball Z: Battle of Z does not work PS1 classic Metal Gear Solid works (transfer from PS3) Oh crap bad news Peace Walker PSP DOES NOT WORK Final Fantasy III PSP DOES NOT WORK No idea what's so special about these games, but fuckkk. univbee fucked around with this message at 01:01 on Oct 15, 2014 |
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Oct 15, 2014 00:58
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In my mind it all has to do with getting the certification. Take for example Tales of Montezuma Arena - it works but is 100% touch screen controlled. You have to use the DS4 touchpad for everything in it. Tales of Montezuma Blitz however does not work. With the random supported apps and hosed up game support I'd say publishers were just slow/didn't care to rush it and/or abandoned the game or app.
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Oct 15, 2014 01:04
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univbee, could you test out controller options for the PS1 games. I mentioned it before, but I am curious if it lets you remap buttons and assign the dpad to the analog stick like the Vita does. I loved that option on the Vita, as by default a lot of the pre-DualShock 1 games don't let you use the analog stick for movement on the PS3 for example. Also it handy for those weird games that didn't get the Confirm/Cancel buttons swapped on the English release.
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Oct 15, 2014 01:10
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univbee posted:Touch my Katamari does not work As I said before, it works on the Japanese version on my Vita TV, but it was patched. So I'm guessing they never patched it here. Also the only video app I can use (beyond the lovely HTML wrapper ones) is NicoVideo. They never got around to Youtube, so I doubt they will now. Rirse posted:univbee, could you test out controller options for the PS1 games. I mentioned it before, but I am curious if it lets you remap buttons and assign the dpad to the analog stick like the Vita does. I loved that option on the Vita, as by default a lot of the pre-DualShock 1 games don't let you use the analog stick for movement on the PS3 for example. Also it handy for those weird games that didn't get the Confirm/Cancel buttons swapped on the English release. If I recall (I don't have my Vita TV with me, it's stuck back at my parents house in Albany, forgot to bring it with me) it will let you. Same with PSP games.
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PSP Castlevania: The Dracula X Chronicles also doesn't work  Every other PSP game I own is on the compatibility list.
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Oct 15, 2014 01:14
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Rirse posted:univbee, could you test out controller options for the PS1 games. I mentioned it before, but I am curious if it lets you remap buttons and assign the dpad to the analog stick like the Vita does. I loved that option on the Vita, as by default a lot of the pre-DualShock 1 games don't let you use the analog stick for movement on the PS3 for example. Also it handy for those weird games that didn't get the Confirm/Cancel buttons swapped on the English release. It has options but I think maybe not as extensive as you're hoping for, I can "assign left stick" to the D-Pad, and can change "Switch mode" between analog and digital. This is just in Suikoden, though, do options depend on the game?
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Oct 15, 2014 01:16
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univbee posted:Peace Walker PSP DOES NOT WORK WHELP that blows
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univbee posted:It has options but I think maybe not as extensive as you're hoping for, I can "assign left stick" to the D-Pad, and can change "Switch mode" between analog and digital. This is just in Suikoden, though, do options depend on the game? Well that's better then the PS3, which doesn't let you assign anything to the PS3 at all. The only games where remapping issues really are annoying is Vagrant Story, which has a really odd default control scheme. I doubt they work, but has anyone tried something like Crash Bandicoot from the Whitelist goof?
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Rirse posted:I doubt they work, but has anyone tried something like Crash Bandicoot from the Whitelist goof? Actually I was able to launch Crash Bandicoot: Warped. I think the PSP titles work via a whitelist (although why Valkyria Chronicles 2 got through I don't know) but the PS1 stuff is pretty much "it'll work as long as it's there".
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By "transfer from PS3" you mean have a Vita, connect the Vita with the memory card to the PS3, transfer from the PS3 to the Vita, then shut off the Vita, remove the memory card from the Vita, then place it in the PS TV and turn it on, correct? Which makes the idea of getting it to do stuff I can't do because I don't have a Vita even stupider. I guess I will pass after all.
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I'm not 100% sure on the specifics, but you can use a PS3 as a content manager for the Playstation TV over a LAN. So the steps would be: - Download game to PS3 so it's in that install bubble mode - Connect Playstation TV to the PS3 using the content manager - Transfer games to the Playstation TV In my case I'd transferred them to my regular Vita, backed them up to a PC using the content manager, then connected to that same PC using the Playstation TV and all my Vita goodies were there and transferrable, including the PS1 whitelist snafu games.
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univbee posted:PS1 classic Metal Gear Solid works (transfer from PS3) quote:Oh crap bad news CrashCat posted:By "transfer from PS3" you mean have a Vita, connect the Vita with the memory card to the PS3, transfer from the PS3 to the Vita, then shut off the Vita, remove the memory card from the Vita, then place it in the PS TV and turn it on, correct? I just checked this, and PSTV and PS3 can interact with each other through the same local network through Content Manager on PSTV, either wired or wireless. Transfers work exactly the same as with a Vita. One note though: if both PSTV and PS3 are connected to the router through wireless connections, the transfer speed will be much slower than if one or both of them were connected to the router with a wired connection. I don't believe a direct wired connection from the PSTV to the PS3 will work.
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Yechezkel posted:I just checked this, and PSTV and PS3 can interact with each other through the same local network through Content Manager on PSTV, either wired or wireless. Transfers work exactly the same as with a Vita.
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So how much does the PS4 remote play suck, when you're on the same network? I have pretty good latency (2-3ms) and a decent amount of bandwidth available. I've seen YouTube vids and technical breakdowns claiming around 100ms latency on a wired connection, but I have no concept of what that would actually feel like with a controller in my hands. It looked ok on the vids i've watched, but when you're actually playing it could be a different story? I realise it would probably make games like COD suck very badly, but basically my plan is to get one and play GTA5 in my home office when the TV is being used by someone else. I can definitely forgive some lag, but if it makes the experience too lovely then i won't bother.
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Zartans Lady Mask posted:So how much does the PS4 remote play suck, when you're on the same network? I have pretty good latency (2-3ms) and a decent amount of bandwidth available. I've seen YouTube vids and technical breakdowns claiming around 100ms latency on a wired connection, but I have no concept of what that would actually feel like with a controller in my hands. It looked ok on the vids i've watched, but when you're actually playing it could be a different story? Just like with PS4 remote play on a vita, there are way too many variables to really tell until you try it. I think you're probably right though - super twitch intensive games will probably not be great on it, but anything a little slower paced will be fine as long as your network is up to par.
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My PSTV is here, I kinda forgot I ordered it. Holy poo poo, this thing is tiny. I'll set it up in my bedroom for some remote play and for watching movies - somebody said Netflix app doesn't work?
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SubponticatePoster posted:My PSTV is here, I kinda forgot I ordered it. Holy poo poo, this thing is tiny. I'll set it up in my bedroom for some remote play and for watching movies - somebody said Netflix app doesn't work? Netflix and Youtube don't work. Basically if you want to do anything else besides play games on it, you'll probably be disappointed.
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Oct 15, 2014 03:35
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Drastic Actions posted:Netflix and Youtube don't work. Basically if you want to do anything else besides play games on it, you'll probably be disappointed.
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Oct 15, 2014 03:54
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Trip report: can't access Netflix via PS4 remote, but works just fine through the browser. Didn't try youtube but imagine it's the same. Maybe due to space issues, I dunno.
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SubponticatePoster posted:Trip report: can't access Netflix via PS4 remote, but works just fine through the browser. Didn't try youtube but imagine it's the same. Maybe due to space issues, I dunno. Most (all?) video services don't work while streaming because piracy vector or something dumb related to content licensing.The fact that even Netflix wasn't ready for launch doesn't bode well. 
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univbee here's your confirmation that SWO does not work http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/734608-sword-art-online-hollow-fragment/70310770?page=1 Also regarding media if you look in the settings app there's settings for media forwarding of some sort with a passcode option. I would assume down the line some sort of DLNA app will come out from Sony.
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Drastic Actions posted:Netflix and Youtube don't work. Basically if you want to do anything else besides play games on it, you'll probably be disappointed. Wow that's shocking. Very glad I held off on impulse buying one of these to stream PS4 games/Netflix in the bedroom. Looks like plugging my old PS3 in will be the superior solution for now. Hopefully they can patch the incompatible games/Netflix/Youtube and fix this thing. What a flaming disaster of a launch.
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Sorry to double-post but this is just  http://forum.marvelous-usa.com/index.php?showtopic=27722&#entry870997 Wyrdwad posted:Regular flavor Ragnarok Odyssey and Valhalla Knights 3 are on the compatibility list from Sony, so both should theoretically be compatible on day one (Valhalla Knights 3, incidentally, is the only Vita game we've released that's compatible with Japanese Vita TV). What the gently caress is Sony doing? They didn't even give Marvelous/XSEED a Playstation TV to test their games on. I'm going to guess the same happened to a lot of developers At least they're trying to get the devs to push the JP patches out so they'll work here. flyboi fucked around with this message at 05:01 on Oct 15, 2014 |
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Y'all gotta remember that this thing was developed simply as an apology for Japan getting the PS4 four months later than the West. I don't think we can expect much support from it in general.
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Samurai Sanders posted:Y'all gotta remember that this thing was developed simply as an apology for Japan getting the PS4 four months later than the West. I don't think we can expect much support from it in general. I know Japanese business culture is very different from ours, but I don't see how this makes sense. They're making high-level business decisions based on their Japanese Honor for mistreating their consumers? Is there something the Sony people have said to indicate this? Even if it really is supposed to be an apology, I don't see how it'd improve their PR standing, since it's not like it's something anyone wanted over there anyway. Don't get me wrong, I agree that it probably won't see much support (especially in the US) but it doesn't really make sense to me as an "apology", since it doesn't really make up for the PS4 delay in any way. XboxPants fucked around with this message at 05:18 on Oct 15, 2014 |
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XboxPants posted:I know Japanese business culture is very different from ours, but I don't see how this makes sense. They're making high-level business decisions based on their Japanese Honor for mistreating their consumers? Is there something the Sony people have said to indicate this?
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I went through every single title I owned, so this is pretty much as far as my testing can go right now. FIFA 14 has English, French and Spanish editions (I believe the Spanish edition is US only and the French is Canada only). English and Spanish are listed by Sony as compatible but French isn't. Probably an oversight. Lego Batman also has a French-only edition and that's explicitly listed as compatible. Of the other stuff, I tested every app, and every Vita game I had that wasn't on Sony's list. Atelier Rorona Plus: The Alchemist of Arland works (the other Atelier games are listed as compatible) Crackle works The following DO NOT WORK Skype Niconico Germinator Tales from Space: Mutant Blobs Attack Sine Mora Oddworld: Stranger's Wrath HD I think the saddest thing is that I probably did more today for this console than Sony has in a long time.  The last thing I'll note is the following oddity: the "what's new" page, for lack of a better term, seems to be permanently set to Japanese on my Vita TV despite binding it to a Canadian account, so that might be hardware-locked. Updated my INcompatibility list and also reorganized it, so the Japan-only stuff is its own list as are apps. It's probably essentially complete right now. As always, any news, good or bad, let me know and I'll adjust accordingly.
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Samurai Sanders posted:They needed something to release in Japan at the same time as the PS4 was being released elsewhere, and they didn't want to spend much time or money on it. The result of that decision is the Vita TV. That makes sense. It'd be cool if it caught on enough to keep getting supported for a while. I wonder if there's any chance it could gain any traction as a console for your kids - that seems to be how they're marketing it with the Lego bundle and releasing it on the same day Minecraft comes out, and a lot of the people I've seen talking about buying it have mentioned being interested in it for that reason.
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XboxPants posted:That makes sense. It'd be cool if it caught on enough to keep getting supported for a while. I wonder if there's any chance it could gain any traction as a console for your kids - that seems to be how they're marketing it with the Lego bundle and releasing it on the same day Minecraft comes out, and a lot of the people I've seen talking about buying it have mentioned being interested in it for that reason. Honestly the biggest problem with that is that you can get a ps3 for basically the same price, when you factor in the accessories. Maybe as a console that can take abuse, since it has no moving parts?
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