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Leperflesh posted:LOL well... not exclusively this thread, but I've generally gotten very good results when I want to learn more about a thing, by reading the relevant forums/threads about it on SA. See: how to work on my car (AI), how to keep bees (beekeeping thread), how to do my taxes, how to fix my house's wiring, how to play videogames, what lenses to buy for my camera, how to cook a perfect steak, what to feed my cats, etc. Past gains do not guarantee future returns.
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The last time the VIX was this high was over 2 years ago  . I love me some VIX shorting but I'm not even going to try catching a reversal this time and wait for markets to find their bottom.
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Omnicarus posted:Past gains do not guarantee future returns. Hahaha very nice!
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DannoMack posted:What did you decide to do on this one? I bought some of both.
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Cheesemaster200 posted:I have been saying this for ages, but then I look at the yield curve and decide against it. I told myself I may look at the bond market when the 10-year hits 3% again... Yields are so low, it's absurd, the whole world is dogpiling into our T-bonds. It's doubly absurd when you know, with mathematical certainly, that rates will be going up next year, right? RIGHT!?!?  hopefully today the dip buyers will put on their big boy pants and buy poo poo, especially since earnings are pretty good so far. RUT will definitely be stabilizing imho
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Hey, messing around with options a bit. By my calcs, I just made $570 - commission and fees by the end of the week (I have an additional 3 contracts worth not pictured, so 18 total), regardless of what happens to the stock price. Can someone confirm that's what's going on? FYI I think this opportunity's still available as of this edit at 19:30 UTC if I did this right and anyone else wants in. Dominoes fucked around with this message at 20:36 on Oct 14, 2014 |
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Alas Boobylon posted:Yields are so low, it's absurd, the whole world is dogpiling into our T-bonds. It's doubly absurd when you know, with mathematical certainly, that rates will be going up next year, right? RIGHT!?!? Rates should be going up yeah, i watched a CME presentation that hinted that a big thing keeping them low was the scottish referendum, now that theyve stayed in i think a lot of uncertainty there is gone
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tbp posted:Rates should be going up yeah, i watched a CME presentation that hinted that a big thing keeping them low was the scottish referendum, now that theyve stayed in i think a lot of uncertainty there is gone I have been saying this for literally two years... Also, INTC beat earnings and revenue. I don't know why everyone was flipping out a few days ago. Cheesemaster200 fucked around with this message at 22:11 on Oct 14, 2014 |
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Dominoes posted:Hey, messing around with options a bit. By my calcs, I just made $570 - commission and fees by the end of the week (I have an additional 3 contracts worth not pictured, so 18 total), regardless of what happens to the stock price. Can someone confirm that's what's going on? You'll owe a $734 dividend, so no. e: You're going to lose $174 + fees, no matter what, unless you close. ohgodwhat fucked around with this message at 00:08 on Oct 15, 2014 |
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Oct 15, 2014 00:00
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re: rates I'll believe it when I see it. happy to be sitting in bonds the last year and a half.
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ohgodwhat posted:You'll owe a $734 dividend, so no.
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Oct 15, 2014 07:43
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looks like another beatdown today, goodness gracious
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Alas Boobylon posted:looks like another beatdown today, goodness gracious No real surprise even, /ES was down 22 points in pre-market trading. It's not always a good indicator, but big movements tend to be on the money. Lost a huge portion of my portfolio on Iron Condors that looked fairly safe last week. Unhappy but not otherwise too shaken up, so I got that going for me, which is nice. Dwight Eisenhower fucked around with this message at 14:43 on Oct 15, 2014 |
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Dwight Eisenhower posted:No real surprise even, /ES was down 22 points in pre-market trading. It's not always a good indicator, but big movements tend to be on the money. same, lolin as thousands of my dollars are vaporized, bull dick swings low
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Let me just refresh the stoc-  Sure is fun watching this years gains vaporize in less than a week. But I'm also in boring index funds and not actively trading so not terribly stressed here
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To be fair we've only regressed back to June over the past week. Another 200 points before we're back to January. I think it could happen by Friday.
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lol at 10 year T-bonds yields holy poo poo
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Just wait until the real selling starts. Most of this down move has been cordoned off in the oil/travel/transport section due to oil/ebola. Once it bleeds over to those illiquid tech names trading at 10x sales once people realize the only thing driving the market was the fed's balance sheet the fun will really start. Take a look at NTCT for an example of whats going to happen to companies like WAGE and GWRE which are even more illiquid than NTCT was. It only took someone selling 3 million shares on a float of 40 million to take NTCT down 25%. Also if deflation hits watch as all the overleveraged bloat companies like URI are taken out to the woodshed.
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I'm like 80% in muni bonds right now, it's odd because they aren't as correlated with treasuries as they used to be. (The spread has widened.) This means either they are oversold, treasuries are overbought, or munis are relatively speaking more riskier than they were 6 months ago. My gut is that munis are oversold, and we'll see a spike if the treasury yields around 2% become the new normal. Also, the CEFs I am in are still sitting on 10% discount factors due to, in my view, the prevalent fear of rising interest rates. If that meme finally dies this'll rapidly correct as well I think. I'm planning to start assessing the stock market for opportunities if we get back down to SPY 1650 or so. (I still have a $89 QQQ put from a few months ago, still slightly in the red) edit: Actually looking into it, the discounts have widened, so this is definitely at least some mispricing or "wait and see" pricing in the CEF market. nebby fucked around with this message at 18:00 on Oct 15, 2014 |
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Walked posted:Let me just refresh the stoc- Yeah, likewise. I dumped a bunch of cash that had built up into funds last week and the week before, and of course everything has gone even lower since then (buy the dip, but don't try to catch a falling knife?), but overall, this is just how it goes. I should really go back to entirely dollar cost averaging, since basically whenever I make a deliberate buy, I worry about it to some extent. onefish fucked around with this message at 18:23 on Oct 15, 2014 |
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Oct 15, 2014 18:15
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Holy loving poo poo.
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Alas Boobylon posted:Holy loving poo poo. -435
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Oh let's just check whattup today in the stock market toda...
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Stock market goes down, will go up again, news at 11.
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bathhouse posted:Picked up some TKMR on the dip, ebola ya'll Stopped at 24.3 from 22's. Was going to hold for PR release today on HBV trials. welp e. PR data is good, watching. bathhouse fucked around with this message at 20:41 on Oct 15, 2014 |
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Oct 15, 2014 18:37
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Did all you ninnies retire this morning or what? Enjoy the 3% Off Sale.
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I've been fully short for months and scaling into a bigger and bigger position over time... finally paying off big time
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:Did all you ninnies retire this morning or what? Enjoy the 3% Off Sale. I don't cAre I haven't sold poo poo in months I just don't understand where the negativity comes from are people expecting a new recession?
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Well there's the 10% correction and 30 on the VIX. Took another stab at shorting it and bought XIV at $25/23 stop. I'm thinking if 1800 doesn't hold then it's for the bull market.
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Oct 15, 2014 20:13
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So 20% annual returns are not normal?
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Oct 15, 2014 20:33
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Time for suckas that started investing in 2012 to realize they don't have the 90 stock/10 bond risk tolerance they thought they did.
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Wow, NFLX.
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Kal Torak posted:Wow, NFLX. Yeah I was coming to say this. Hope whoever was still in it sold off or is selling. Down $105(-24%) right now.
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Geez, what the heck happened.
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netcat posted:Geez, what the heck happened. good company but ridiculous stock in a bad market... not even remotely surprising.
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HBO announced they're going to do a standalone streaming service (e.g., you don't have to have a cable/sat HBO subscription). That might be part of the netflix decline.
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Earnings report. Bad guidance.
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