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Quantum of Phallus
Dec 27, 2010


No Black Person is ugly :worship:

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Deadbeat Dad
Jun 3, 2005

the trad games jinho

Henchman of Santa posted:

Wu-Tang really only have two good albums as a group. If you take solo albums into account it might be a different story.

Personally I would say the best are The Roots (although it's probably disingenuous to call them a rap group) or A Tribe Called Quest. I'm struggling to think of groups with more than two good MCs besides the Beastie Boys.

Hard for me to put most groups above De La Soul.

Quantum of Phallus
Dec 27, 2010

Snoop is throwing shade on Iggy over on Instagram in what will be the lamest beef since Azealia Banks / anyone.

weak wrists big dick
Dec 18, 2012

good job. you are getting legitametly upset because I won't confrom to your secret internet cliques gross social standards. Sorry I don't like anime. Sorry I don't like being gross on the internet. Sorry that you are getting caremad.


your stupid shit internet argument is also only half true once I get probated, so checkmate anyways but nice try.

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Skimmed the last four pages and saw nothing about Earl mentioning he is completely done with Gnossos/Not Gnossos and has been since June

doctor thodt
Apr 2, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Royce x DJ Premier

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4G9BffoByTg

Album's out Dec. 9 with features from Jay Elec, Killer Mike, Ab and Q

Yuzenn
Mar 31, 2011

Be weary when you see oppression disguised as progression

The Spirit told me to use discernment and a Smith n Wesson at my discretion

Practice heavy self reflection, avoid self deception
If you lost, get re-direction

doctor thodt posted:

Royce x DJ Premier

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4G9BffoByTg

Album's out Dec. 9 with features from Jay Elec, Killer Mike, Ab and Q

Solidified my pre order....

In other news, welcome back David Banner http://rapradar.com/2014/10/15/2014-bet-hip-hop-awards-cypher-vic-mensa-snow-tha-product-king-los-treach-david-banner/

thathonkey
Jul 17, 2012

David Banner owns but holy poo poo 'Snow da product' is pretty... awkward... it's like she can't decide if she wants to be talking or rapping. (she sounds way more comfortable rapping in spanish though.)

Edit: i retract some of this criticism now that ive considered how hard it must be to rap in a non-native language

thathonkey fucked around with this message at 17:47 on Oct 15, 2014

MrBling
Aug 21, 2003

Oozing machismo
Another new Dillon Cooper track.

https://soundcloud.com/thedilloncooper/dreams-to-reality

Mixtape drops on monday, can't wait.

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010
Christ, dudes, I said "I'm struggling to think of groups" not "there are no groups with more than two good MCs and anyone who says otherwise is a liar." Also somebody posted Run-DMC in response, which is weird because they only have two rappers period.

alansmithee posted:

Why is it disingenuous to call The Roots a rap group? Also, did the Beastie Boys have some extra hidden members that made them have more than 2 good MCs? Also there's been a ton more groups that would easily have as many good MCs as the Beastie Boys, if that's your criteria.
I forgot that Black Thought isn't the only guy who raps in the Roots. It throws me off that they have a lot of songs "featuring" Dice Raw and Malik B just slipped my mind.

I like all three of the Beastie Boys as rappers, although it's really more about their chemistry with each other than any individual skill.

thathonkey
Jul 17, 2012
If chemistry is a criteria then i also nominate Migos. And if two rappers counts as a group obviously Outkast.

ZenVulgarity
Oct 9, 2012

I made the hat by transforming my zen

I don't get Lil b.

alansmithee
Jan 25, 2007

Goodness no, now that wouldn't do at all!


Henchman of Santa posted:

I forgot that Black Thought isn't the only guy who raps in the Roots. It throws me off that they have a lot of songs "featuring" Dice Raw and Malik B just slipped my mind.

I like all three of the Beastie Boys as rappers, although it's really more about their chemistry with each other than any individual skill.

Malik B used to actually be in the Roots. He apparently had some drug issues or something and left the group/went on hiatus. They used to have an insane touring schedule, which I'm sure didn't make it easy to deal with poo poo.

Also fwiw even if it was just mostly Black Thought rapping, I'd still think they were a "group" unless you want to make some distinction between "group" and "band" which I doubt het is even pedantic enough to bother arguing.

I do feel you on the Beastie Boys though. I'd actually make the case that it's partially their lack of insane individual skill that let them sound good together. I know they're considered kinda corny now, but J5 used to be solid in terms of actually having multiple MCs on one track actually sounding like a group vs. just a bunch of dudes all rapping individually. Some early Demigodz stuff has that same vibe too. Even Wu who are arguably the best rap group ever didn't usually meld all that well on their tracks-it was just a bunch of individually talented dudes (and U-God) all doing largely self-contained verses. That stands out more when you look at Rae and Ghost's first albums where dudes just seem to vibe together. Duos seem to have a much better time with it in general.

Robert Analog
Feb 16, 2008

shyah

thathonkey posted:

David Banner owns but holy poo poo 'Snow da product' is pretty... awkward... it's like she can't decide if she wants to be talking or rapping. (she sounds way more comfortable rapping in spanish though.)

Edit: i retract some of this criticism now that ive considered how hard it must be to rap in a non-native language

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVe_NPWGt9c
Here's a song with her that's good also she's pretty

doctor thodt posted:

Royce x DJ Premier

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4G9BffoByTg

Album's out Dec. 9 with features from Jay Elec, Killer Mike, Ab and Q

Really pumped for this

Robert Analog fucked around with this message at 19:17 on Oct 15, 2014

Yuzenn
Mar 31, 2011

Be weary when you see oppression disguised as progression

The Spirit told me to use discernment and a Smith n Wesson at my discretion

Practice heavy self reflection, avoid self deception
If you lost, get re-direction

thathonkey posted:

David Banner owns but holy poo poo 'Snow da product' is pretty... awkward... it's like she can't decide if she wants to be talking or rapping. (she sounds way more comfortable rapping in spanish though.)

Edit: i retract some of this criticism now that ive considered how hard it must be to rap in a non-native language

Its like she went to the Big Sean school of never catching the beat and keeping your flow the same no matter what the beat calls for (and I like Big Sean too, his style ruins the track sometimes)

Prime example https://www.rapradar.com/2014/10/14/big-sean-cosmic-kev-freestyle-2/

Yuzenn fucked around with this message at 19:28 on Oct 15, 2014

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010

alansmithee posted:

Also fwiw even if it was just mostly Black Thought rapping, I'd still think they were a "group" unless you want to make some distinction between "group" and "band" which I doubt het is even pedantic enough to bother arguing.
That's fair. I just usually think of "rap group" as some MCs and maybe a consistent DJ.

quote:

I do feel you on the Beastie Boys though. I'd actually make the case that it's partially their lack of insane individual skill that let them sound good together. I know they're considered kinda corny now, but J5 used to be solid in terms of actually having multiple MCs on one track actually sounding like a group vs. just a bunch of dudes all rapping individually. Some early Demigodz stuff has that same vibe too. Even Wu who are arguably the best rap group ever didn't usually meld all that well on their tracks-it was just a bunch of individually talented dudes (and U-God) all doing largely self-contained verses. That stands out more when you look at Rae and Ghost's first albums where dudes just seem to vibe together. Duos seem to have a much better time with it in general.
Thanks for reminding me of Jurassic 5 as a glaring omission. Chali 2na has the voice of my dreams. And yeah, duos with great interplay are probably my favorite thing in hip-hop. It's why I love Run the Jewels so much, even more than R.A.P. Music which is probably an objectively better album.

thathonkey
Jul 17, 2012
I am also a big fan of interplay but i find rtj switch-off to be pretty jarring sometimes. Not that it is necessarily detrimental to the music but i would prefer something more seamless (see: migos).

who are some other rappers that have successfully used interplay (doesnt have to be a normal group, could just be a one-off collab)? this comes to mind
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_DLD7OMUns

Robert Analog
Feb 16, 2008

shyah
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QmnEEteDig - Here's the best (Jurassic 5) example I could think of

Kenshin
Jan 10, 2007

thathonkey posted:

I am also a big fan of interplay but i find rtj switch-off to be pretty jarring sometimes. Not that it is necessarily detrimental to the music but i would prefer something more seamless (see: migos).

who are some other rappers that have successfully used interplay (doesnt have to be a normal group, could just be a one-off collab)? this comes to mind
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_DLD7OMUns

Ces Cru are very good at playing off of each other:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bricLC4Z3QM

Optimus Subprime
Mar 26, 2005

Ideas are more powerful than guns. We would not let our enemies have guns, why should we let them have ideas?

Most important news of the year, Meow the Jewels is funded.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1957344648/meow-the-jewels

Prepare for the hottest album of 2015.

Kenshin
Jan 10, 2007
Speaking of Snow Tha Product, new track with Ty Dolla $ign:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-BhRuY1OVc

I like it.

Cool Buff Man
Jul 30, 2006

bitch

alansmithee posted:

Even Wu who are arguably the best rap group ever didn't usually meld all that well on their tracks-it was just a bunch of individually talented dudes (and U-God)

[clears throat]

Deck bombs metropolis, U-god golden arms
Battle scared esophagus, Thank Invincible golden moms

I AM BRAWW
Jul 18, 2014

Cool Buff Man posted:

[clears throat]

Deck bombs metropolis, U-god golden arms
Battle scared esophagus, Thank Invincible golden moms

ThatBasqueGuy
Feb 14, 2013

someone introduce jojo to lazyb


Optimus Subprime posted:

Most important news of the year, Meow the Jewels is funded.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1957344648/meow-the-jewels

Prepare for the hottest album of 2015.

"list of producers now includes, El-P, Just Blaze, The Alchemist. Geoff Barrow, Skywlkr, Zola Jesus, Nick Rook, Baauer, Prince Paul, Dan The Automator, Boots, and Tier Contributor Solidified Sun."

:drat:

These are gonna be some raw kitten beats

doctor thodt
Apr 2, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Q and Rozay hop on a Weeknd track. Not bad.

http://www.hotnewhiphop.com/the-weeknd-often-feat-schoolboy-q-rick-ross-remix-new-song.1958325.html

HorseRenoir
Dec 25, 2011



Pillbug
Riff Raff and Makonnen did a track together: https://soundcloud.com/mikewillmadeit/syrup-in-my-soda-ft-jody-highroller-x-i-love-makonnen

While we're still on rap groups, I think Black Hippy is the only rap crew in recent memory where every member felt good and useful and not just one or two really good rappers and their weed carriers.

temple
Jul 29, 2006

I have actual skeletons in my closet
LOL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8AuMOGx_KY

The Afroman album was a classic. I don't even smoke weed.

The REAL Goobusters
Apr 25, 2008
So loving excited about seeing run the jewels tomorrow.

Robert Analog
Feb 16, 2008

shyah

temple posted:

LOL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8AuMOGx_KY

The Afroman album was a classic. I don't even smoke weed.

Do teachers get drug tested or is it a personal choice?

HorseRenoir
Dec 25, 2011



Pillbug
Oh hey, the Thugger/Wayne song actually happened and it sounds great. The second verse is absolutely ridiculous.

Anita Dickinme
Jan 24, 2013


Grimey Drawer

HorseRenoir posted:

Oh hey, the Thugger/Wayne song actually happened and it sounds great. The second verse is absolutely ridiculous.

Hey, Weezy actually wasn't that bad in this!

Wezlar
May 13, 2005



Song is ok but Wayne pretty much brings nothing to the table. I really dislike when guys jump on a song with someone else(or a remix especually) and just do their flow.

40 lbs to freedom
Apr 13, 2007

by the way that richgang mixtape was actually pretty good but i dont remember anyone really talking about it.

some of my favs:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkbohVXgxx8 (nsfw btw)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eu5IQNOekCA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buqoLfX1beY

40 lbs to freedom fucked around with this message at 14:51 on Oct 16, 2014

MyChemicalImbalance
Sep 15, 2007

Keep on smilin'



:unsmith:
Had a friend recommend this to me, it's pretty short but I really liked the hook.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvlFlsOXUdM

I love browsing through this thread every once in a while and I've usually came away with some interesting new tracks, so thanks guys!

Tolkien minority
Feb 14, 2012



This works suprisingly well

Quantum of Phallus
Dec 27, 2010

Trap God 3 tomorrow.

Will it live up to the Trap God name ? Probably not

7 RING SHRIMP
Oct 3, 2012

It's absolutely insane how much Young Thug can sound like Lil Wayne when he says certain words

Insanely Sikh
Aug 26, 2009

Winner, SA's Sikh Of the Year, 2013

TenaciousTomato posted:

Got two records from Slice of Spice today. The first one is Lord Finesse's new album of unreleased instrumentals, called SP1200: A Re-Awakening because they were made on an SP1200. The second is the D.I.T.C. Remix Project all featuring classics remixed by the likes of Apollo Brown, Macro Polo, Alchemist, etc. These both may still be on Soundcloud. DITC is some of the best hiphop in my opinion so i had to drop the dough on these (especially the custom slip-mats :laugh:)

edit: for ya ears https://soundcloud.com/slice-of-spice/sets/lord-finesse-the-sp1200

I recognised one of those beats early on but couldn't place the track for the life of me, really enjoyed this though. I don't care if he was a one-line rapper, Awakening's one of my favourite albums.

As an aside, a friend suggested checking out El Michels Affair who did a cover of Enter the 36 Chambers and some random Wu Tang tracks on a LP called 'Enter the 37th Chamber'; it's pretty old granted but pretty unique and who knows, maybe some of you might like it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFEX8rMdGKE

HorseRenoir
Dec 25, 2011



Pillbug

EATIN SHRIMP posted:

It's absolutely insane how much Young Thug can sound like Lil Wayne when he says certain words

I honestly can't tell if the first verse is Thugger trying to sound like Wayne or Wayne trying to sound like Thugger

Kenshin
Jan 10, 2007
EDIT: Nope, too awful to even post. Nevermind.

Kenshin fucked around with this message at 23:26 on Oct 16, 2014

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thathonkey
Jul 17, 2012
I'm listening to this Vince Staples EP (Hell Can Wait). Don't recall seeing anything about it in this thread... really digging it so far. Been a pretty drat good year for the west coast between Q, YG, DJ Quik all dropping and now this. And if Kendrick and Jay Rock do end up releasing this year then :drat: (Too bad Ab's album was so lovely tho)

edit: full EP is on Youtube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tz2cdUYQHSg

and Spotify

edit 2: also just noticed trap god 3 is on itunes but I'm not paying for a frankentape nevermind it is just a preorder for tomorrow

thathonkey fucked around with this message at 23:42 on Oct 16, 2014

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