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Sadi posted:Or RS3s they won most of autocross nationals this year. Wrong thread bro. Rivals feel way better on track.
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They feel better because you're going slower.
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Oct 9, 2014 03:59
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I love my 225/45-15 RS3s Just had a private trackday at Buttonwillow on Monday with some BMWCCA ppl. It was pretty cool, $300 for the day, about 30 cars and no run groups. Just open track all day long. There were quite a few really nice cars, new M3's, 911's, race-ready E36's and a Mclaren 650s I brought my ugly rear end track E30 with M20 (street driven tho) and was probably the fastest there. A friend and I shared the car all day long so it got a workout in 90 degree heat, but never skipped a beat. Obviously it's the driver and not the car but I was faster than the Mclaren by a surprisingly large margin. Obviously he pulled in the straights but through almost every corner and especially Riverside and Phil Hill I was right on him. Pretty  feeling. Guy was kind of a dick and wouldn't point me by anywhere. (Point-by passing full track) I was on him for 4 laps before he pulled off.Later, same guy in his other car--a race prepped E36, wouldn't let me by for 3 or 4 laps either. I don't get the egos on these guys.
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Oct 9, 2014 04:16
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No meetings? why not say something to him?
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Oct 9, 2014 04:19
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Yeah in my experience a lack of point by is either an indicator that the driver in front is new and completely tunnel visioning or they don't know it's a point-by passing session.
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Oct 9, 2014 04:28
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Or they're just assholes who think that because they can out motor you down the straights, you haven't really caught them.
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Oct 9, 2014 04:41
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I talked to him after the first time just because I wanted to check out the car. I just mentioned I was behind him and he said he saw me and left it at that. Honestly I didn't mind being stuck behind it watching the cool rear wing go up during high speed braking and enjoyed being on track with a car much nicer than I'll ever be able to afford. It was a private day put on for friends and friends-of-friends, so I didn't want to be a dick about anything because I may be faster, blah blah. The next no point by in the E36 didn't happen till later and it's not a big deal, just something I thought was funny.
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Oct 9, 2014 05:56
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I put it into the dirt REALLY HARD today at Miller. It was absolutely glorious. Kept pushing the car faster every lap. The last one of the day (was getting too dark)... there's the big straight of the course, then a wide sweeping left. I was at the top of 4th and I normally took this turn in the middle of 4th (around 80). Went in hot and tried to come out hotter, but the tires just gave up at that point (this was 7 laps in) and let go. Spinspinspinspin *chokes on dust* *car sputters to a halt* (while driving this) 
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Oct 9, 2014 09:28
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That owns. It's cool to hear that you're using the car instead of keeping it parked and shiny.
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Oct 9, 2014 10:03
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Nait Sirhc posted:I put it into the dirt REALLY HARD today at Miller. It was absolutely glorious. Kept pushing the car faster every lap. The last one of the day (was getting too dark)... there's the big straight of the course, then a wide sweeping left. I was at the top of 4th and I normally took this turn in the middle of 4th (around 80). Went in hot and tried to come out hotter, but the tires just gave up at that point (this was 7 laps in) and let go. Spinspinspinspin *chokes on dust* *car sputters to a halt* Well at least you got your first spin in a Z3M pretty soon after buying it, it's bound to happen at some point.
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Oct 9, 2014 15:37
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More pictures from the MMP trackday      
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Oct 10, 2014 03:36
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aventari posted:The next no point by in the E36 didn't happen till later and it's not a big deal, just something I thought was funny. Maybe I'm doing it wrong but I don't understand why people won't let faster cars by. If you have a shot at losing a tail, sure, go for it. Otherwise, at least for me, having a faster angry car that wants to get past on your rear end is stressful and takes the fun out of lapping.
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Oct 11, 2014 07:15
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MMP has some nice scenery.
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Oct 11, 2014 10:11
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Something about that "GT40" doesn't look right.
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Oct 11, 2014 22:07
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GTFieroty?
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Oct 12, 2014 07:06
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Bumming Your Scene posted:GTFieroty? I'm pretty sure it's a kit. Most people were speculating that, the owner wouldn't say and just kept flashing the look at everyone
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Oct 15, 2014 20:49
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So someone posted this article on Reddit... For $20K you get a "Nismo Micra" and a couple hours of track time... http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2014/10/nissan-micra-cup-new-affordable-race-series.html 
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Sab669 posted:So someone posted this article on Reddit... For $20K you get a "Nismo Micra" and a couple hours of track time... If you live in Canada, which is the only place in North America the Canadianized Micra is sold. Excited that they see the motorsports potential. Curious if it'll ever be a reasonable STF autox competitor.
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Oct 16, 2014 02:17
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Oh, yea I left out that detail. Woops. I don't know though, can't imagine spending $20K on a Micra and tracking it. I'd rather just get what I want, and track it "privately" with a group
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Oct 16, 2014 03:12
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It's about what you'd spend for the other B-Spec efforts (the HPD Honda Fit, the SCCA Mazda2 and Fiesta). http://www.caranddriver.com/comparisons/b-spec-racers-honda-fit-vs-kia-rio5-mazda-2-mini-cooper-hatchback-comparison-tests
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Oct 16, 2014 03:15
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$20k for a race car in a spec race series is a bargain. Doubly so when you realize it's in Canadian fun bux.  For comparison: - a mid-pack Spec Miata cost about $10-15k and you're dealing with people who get the top 10 DQ'd from the SCCA runoffs - a Spec E30 has had a bunch of cost creep as cars and parts have dwindled - a Spec E46 is about $25k for a car - a nationally competitive PTE car is about $20-30k to play For $20k though, you might be better off just going with karts.
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Oct 16, 2014 03:31
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Seat Safety Switch posted:It's about what you'd spend for the other B-Spec efforts (the HPD Honda Fit, the SCCA Mazda2 and Fiesta). Didn't the main class for those cars already get wiped out, though?
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Oct 16, 2014 03:59
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Nait Sirhc posted:I'm pretty sure it's a kit. Most people were speculating that, the owner wouldn't say and just kept flashing the With those doors there's not a chance it's real. And omg those doors :vomits:
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Oct 16, 2014 14:09
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IOwnCalculus posted:Didn't the main class for those cars already get wiped out, though? I don't think it was picked up by NASA or SCCA.
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Oct 16, 2014 16:14
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Phone posted:I don't think it was picked up by NASA or SCCA. They got picked up by the SCCA, the fields are just tiny.
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Oct 16, 2014 22:55
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Phone posted:$20k for a race car in a spec race series is a bargain. Doubly so when you realize it's in Canadian fun bux. Is spec e46 even off the ground yet? I've seen rumblings about it but there was a lot of discussion about rules and the harmonics problems with the M54.
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Oct 17, 2014 00:01
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I know both of the guys who started it and they had a shakedown at the NASA VIR event. Bimmerworld is putting some weight behind it and they're well into more than a few dozen cars being finished. I think there's somewhere around 50 cars between completed and soon-to-be-completed cars, which isn't too bad considering that the idea is about a year old.
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Oct 17, 2014 02:02
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So is Spec3 already dead?
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SNiPER_Magnum posted:So is Spec3 already dead? Not yet. The founders of se46 said they were hoping to draw people from GTS more than the other BMW spec classes.
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Oct 17, 2014 20:03
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Pro3 is pretty popular in the PNW but it's really really loving expensive now. 40+ cars in many races.
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Oct 18, 2014 03:56
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WRL released their 2015 schedule. Looks like they're having their first west coast race in June at the ridge. Could be interesting!
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Oct 18, 2014 04:51
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Phone posted:For $20k though, you might be better off just going with karts. 
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Oct 18, 2014 05:44
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So right on my tires it says never inflate over 40 PSI. The guy at the tire shop says I should inflate them to about 36 for track days because I'm getting heat damage on the outsides of the tread, I've just been using 32. They get up to about 36-38 when I use 32 and come back to the paddock, and were at around 42 when I used 36. What do I use?
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Oct 19, 2014 04:37
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What model tire? What car? What tire size? Optimal pressures very wildly. Even on the same model of tire. For example, I run my 245/45/17 star specs at ~29 psi hot. I know other people who found 38 psi to be ideal on their car. Do you know about the wear arrow on the tire side wall? This one: http://venturers.org/Tech_Library/attachments/Tire_Markings.jpg I normally start my tire pressure tuning bleeding out pressure until I start wearing down to the arrow. Then tuning balance, grip, overheating, etc from there. Most of the time I find that pressure optimal.
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Oct 19, 2014 04:48
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275/40ZR/19 Pilot Super Sports on a 2013 Mustang
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Oct 19, 2014 04:55
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The pressure listed on the sides is the max cold pressure, if your hot temps go above that pressure you're ok. Putting chalk over those wear arrows will at least give you some confidence you're not destroying your tires.
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Oct 19, 2014 06:09
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Exactly. A 40psi max is really, really low too. Normally i see 50ish PSI. FatCow posted:Wrong thread bro. Every single person I've talked to say Rivals get greasy on the track with anything heavier than a miata.
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Oct 19, 2014 06:16
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If you're melting the outside, more camber. Taking tire temps across the tread after a session is really the only way to fine tune alignment.
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Bumming Your Scene posted:So right on my tires it says never inflate over 40 PSI. The guy at the tire shop says I should inflate them to about 36 for track days because I'm getting heat damage on the outsides of the tread, I've just been using 32. They get up to about 36-38 when I use 32 and come back to the paddock, and were at around 42 when I used 36. What do I use? A pyrometer .Seriously though, grab a cheap needle pyrometer or a laser and you won't have to play the ronco guessing game again; temperatures and your dialed pressure will vary due to surface conditions, duck farts, etc., so a one-size fits all temp might not work too well for the entire season.
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jamal posted:If you're melting the outside, more camber. Taking tire temps across the tread after a session is really the only way to fine tune alignment. This. This is the issue. McSpatula posted:A pyrometer If you're going to use a pyrometer to tune based on tire temps, a laser is near useless unless you have the ability to datalog in real time. The time spent coming back to the pits from a hot lap will cool down the surface of the tire, you need to be able to take a carcass temp from deeper than the surface to get any real indication of temps. This is especially true once you are running significant static camber. E: Laser pyrometers ARE useful for finding out if a particular cyl is running lean (hotter exhaust at the header/head junction) and diagnosing failed wheel bearings (hotter wheel) and if your pork is thoroughly cooked (145 deg F) and a bunch of other stuff. Stardotstar fucked around with this message at 12:30 on Oct 19, 2014 |
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