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I don't understand why Fedora doesn't have a CDE spin. Linux is straying too far from its unix roots, I'm switching to BSD.
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i use a tiling wm and it owns, please don't use a gnome 3
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Oct 22, 2014 13:30
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keyvin posted:I set up Linux for my parents, but they didn't like ion3 so I reinstalled windows. are your parents tuomo valkonen
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Oct 22, 2014 13:43
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chromeos is a linux, using that right now
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Oct 22, 2014 13:53
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os x and ios are unix and they are extrememly my poo poo my favourite desktop environment is finder
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Oct 22, 2014 14:47
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i just got to work and tried to print some poo poo from my centos desktop. the cups server got all hosed up or something and the gui for printer setup / jobs completely hung. i said gently caress it and restarted the machine. it booted into a black screen w/o even functional tty access. I rebooted again and added nomodeset to the kernel command line. stuck on a 100% loading bar. i have tty access now, but eth0 says no carrier. gently caress this gay earth the moral of the story is never install a desktop linux outside of a vm.
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Oct 22, 2014 16:57
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Illusive gently caress Man posted:the moral of the story is never install a linux.
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Oct 22, 2014 16:59
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Forums Terrorist posted:my favourite desktop environment is finder it used to be really good but they ruined it in osx (oddly enough, at the same time that macs turned into unix!) and it has been poo poo ever since.
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Oct 22, 2014 18:36
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Soricidus posted:sorry to break this to you but finder is a pos. The MacOS 8 ui was great except for two things: - Drives are mainly or only accessible from the desktop. No 'show desktop' button exists, so I had to like manually minimize every drat window to get to my files! (Maybe I was supposed to magically know about some keyboard shortcut to do it but it should have been obvious!  )- Switching between programs or windows via that horrible drop-down menu on the top-right of the screen was a giant pain in the rear end. The Windows taskbar was far better.
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Oct 22, 2014 18:43
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Both of these problems still exist today in osx. I guess the dumb dock thing does display a 'list' of nested items, but it is like a springy bouncy bendy vertical penis thing that doesn't work right and it makes me feel uncomfortable.
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Oct 22, 2014 18:46
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Captain Pike posted:Both of these problems still exist today in osx. See a doctor
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Oct 22, 2014 18:48
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I'm the psychological analysis you should go get. Everything's coming up Freud.
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Oct 22, 2014 18:53
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"let's make a desktop that is completely unusable piss garbage by grabbing some bits and pieces of successful osses without understanding why they work!" -- an idiot hell fucker
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Oct 22, 2014 20:21
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ZShakespeare posted:"let's make a desktop that is completely unusable piss garbage by grabbing some bits and pieces of successful osses after forgetting why they work!" -- steve jobs, circa 1999
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Oct 22, 2014 20:31
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Captain Pike posted:Both of these problems still exist today in osx. lolwut, the drop-down menu for switching programs you complained about never existed in osx, and osx offers several different methods of switching. as for needing to uncover finder desktop icons, for all its faults modern osx finder has fixed that. set up your finder windows with the sidebar (they will have one out of the box) and make sure "devices" are shown in the sidebar (once again, this will be true oob)
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Oct 22, 2014 20:57
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It's this kinda poo poo that makes me happy I use kupfer.
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Oct 23, 2014 00:26
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oval office AND PASTE posted:"just use mate, because the desktop paradigm peaked circa 1997" - yospos, unironically don't gently caress up a good thing
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Oct 23, 2014 00:48
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keyvin posted:I don't understand why Fedora doesn't have a CDE spin. Linux is straying too far from its unix roots, I'm switching to BSD. I use a CNC machine at work that is running something called Lynx Unix and has a CDE user interface on hardware nowhere near powerful enough to run a graphical user interface. Its utterly awful. I love sitting there watching a window slowly redraw its controls and every window and dialog box has its own idea of navigation keys, "I know TAB moves you through text fields on this window, but in this window it doesn't do anything!", "If you press enter while in this text box it will move you to the next text box, but if you press enter in this text box it will close the dialog with an implicit cancel!"
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Oct 23, 2014 00:57
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I have heard things about CNC machines, but you've somehow managed to lower my opinion of them.
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Oct 23, 2014 01:36
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ZShakespeare posted:just use mate. it's like gnome but without the half assed attempt at cargo-culting the worst bits of windows 8 and lion. mate is the only good choice when it comes to Linux on the desktop.
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Oct 23, 2014 03:35
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gnome 3. replacing poo poo that works with broken garbage because it's old.
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Oct 23, 2014 03:40
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gnome 3 spend years working on hot garbage. get rejected by the public, have mass exodus of developers, maintain course for terrible and don't look back
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Oct 23, 2014 04:09
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http://lwn.net/Articles/617176/quote:It was discovered that PrtSc key is not disabled when the screen is locked. lol
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Oct 23, 2014 05:27
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MaliciousBiz posted:mate is the only good choice when it comes to Linux on the desktop. gently caress that, i3. I'd kill to have a proper tiling WM on Windows for work.
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Oct 23, 2014 05:58
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IPvSH6T posted:gently caress that, i3. I'd kill to have a proper tiling WM on Windows for work. if you want tiling, why even run X-Windows, why not just run the Andrew wm and apps?
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Oct 23, 2014 06:54
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Fixed half a month ago: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=737456
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Oct 23, 2014 06:56
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gnome 3 status: still suiting my needs better than any other desktop on any platform.
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Oct 23, 2014 11:44
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Fib posted:gnome 3 status: still suiting my needs* better than any other desktop on any platform. I was going to put something funny after a *, but gnome 3 sucks so badly its the joke in and of itself.
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Oct 23, 2014 12:01
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eschaton posted:if you want tiling, why even run X-Windows, why not just run the Andrew wm and apps? because im not a cmu student in the 1980s
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Oct 23, 2014 20:31
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lmao
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Oct 23, 2014 20:33
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keyvin posted:I was going to put something funny after a *, but gnome 3 sucks so badly its the joke in and of itself. actually, its good
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Oct 23, 2014 21:48
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i saw KDE 5 and its still just windows vista with a homemade theme on it
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Oct 23, 2014 21:51
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mate is XP where someone has pinned a quick access to disks and control panel on the taskbar everyone i know who is an old dad had their XP like this so its really like the daddest XP
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Oct 23, 2014 21:54
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cinnamon is also vista but with a bad virtual desktop thing tacked on and the designer apparently says 'ok, everything gnome 3 does, we will just do the exact opposite' so instead of dynamic workspaces you have to spend clicks manually creating and destroying them, and instead of being stacked vertically, they're horizontal
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Oct 23, 2014 21:56
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narcissism of small differences itt (theyre all poo poo)
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Oct 23, 2014 21:58
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all these desktops still have the microsoft-style ghetto of misfit programs permanently living in the notification area
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the mystery of the window controls what is supposed to happen when you click the minimize button on a window? should the window minimize to the taskbar? should the window minimize to the notification area? what is supposed to happen when you click the close button on a window? should the program terminate? should it minimize to the taskbar? should it hide in the notification area? or are you really closing the abstraction of something (a settings control page) without actually terminating the program (a system daemon, say, antivirus)? whatever, it's just easier to call people "computer illiterate" when they ask these questions
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Oct 23, 2014 22:12
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the lie that users expect that kind of behavior because they're used to it is false sit any user down at windows, osx, kde, cinnamon, xfce.. they will be equally confused
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Oct 23, 2014 22:44
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lusers are idiotic peasant scum and they deserve nothing less than death
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minimizing things to the taskbar is useful for de-cluttering your view but what exactly is the value of the taskbar/minimizing windows paradigm when you have workspaces? what is supposed to happen when you restore a window from the taskbar but aren't looking at the workspace where that window entered the minimized state?
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