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adorai posted:there are a lot of people who are simply going to be priced out of positions which pay "competitive" wages. I would rather a recruiter not waste my time if there is no way the hiring company is ever going to meet my salary requirement. Although it's probably better to turn it around, and when asked that question, ask the recruiter if there is a maximum salary the position could pay. Edit: More or less this. I guess it's situationally dependent, but a lot of times applications have a spot to fill out requested salary. If it's too high for the area, your application will probably not get priority. If you're just getting a call from a recruiter because of a linked in profile or something, then, why would salary not be a good place to start for a recruiter, it saves time, and that's why it's on applications usually as well. Or anyway, why not just always ask for a bit more than what the average pay is for the position at your location, which you can easily find off sites like glassdoor and stuff? Being overqualified for a position is a good way to get your application thrown out, since you're probably also going to ask for more. Sometimes less is more, tailor the resume to the job description etc? SSH IT ZOMBIE fucked around with this message at 20:12 on Oct 25, 2014 |
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My other half was offered a job a few weeks back and was getting to the salary... well hourly rate negotiation and she was concerned that if she pushed for the high end she would be seen as greedy. This is exactly what employers hope for. I told her to push and she got a decent increase over even the advertised because she had experience in the area due to her internships. Push for more money, the worst they can say is no.... and then take back their job offer.
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When giving out references, at what stage of the interview process is this done? I had an employer ask for them immediately which I thought was a little brash.
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Oct 27, 2014 15:07
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Tab8715 posted:When giving out references, at what stage of the interview process is this done? I had an employer ask for them immediately which I thought was a little brash. Eh, personally I'd say they (the employer) always dictates this, which is fine. More often than not I'd expect them to be asked for after the initial (or only) interview, and only after they've decided that they're interested. If they're asking for them right off the bat, they're either already interested, or they just have a weird HR department that wants them ahead of time for some reason. It's a little unusual but not really anything bad, in my opinion.
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Oct 27, 2014 15:19
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 Two weeks starts today, finally getting out of this hellhole with my sisyphean task of trying to get software to do what a layman thinks it can do based on what he was probably lied to in a presentation back in 2002. As a Sys. Admin with no prior coding experience.
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Oct 27, 2014 16:26
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Japanese Dating Sim posted:Eh, personally I'd say they (the employer) always dictates this, which is fine. I was asked for references two weeks after I started working here. When I worked in QA one time, I was asked for references like 6 months in, by a complete idiot from corporate. He was like "You said you were a petty officer in the navy, how come when I asked them they said your job was an E4 huh?!?!". I spent like 12 hours back and forth on the phone with that guy getting a reference from every job in the last 7 years, I tracked down multiple people where the businesses didn't exist anymore.
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Zero VGS posted:I was asked for references two weeks after I started working here. When I worked in QA one time, I was asked for references like 6 months in, by a complete idiot from corporate. He was like "You said you were a petty officer in the navy, how come when I asked them they said your job was an E4 huh?!?!". I spent like 12 hours back and forth on the phone with that guy getting a reference from every job in the last 7 years, I tracked down multiple people where the businesses didn't exist anymore. I listed as Petty Officer and not E4 because I knew dumbass hiring managers or idiots in HR, just like you, would think that meant Officer and not Enlisted, and would most likely make an uninformed judgement on that criteria as if it makes any real difference in the quality of work I am capable of doing.
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Oct 27, 2014 17:48
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I hate references. I have only worked 3 full-time jobs, and one of them has 0 people still there while I was (student employment,) the other one is still open but my boss was a lunatic and I have no idea what type of poo poo he would say to people these days, and I'm still at my current jobs so I would prefer if you didn't call my boss and ask him about my job search. Why am I being punished for not job hopping more?
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Oct 27, 2014 18:11
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I think I've only been asked for references once. I thought they weren't commonly needed anymore, but maybe I've just been lucky. Because seriously, keeping those up-to-date and letting people know ahead of time is a pain.
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Oct 27, 2014 18:13
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I think I have reached peak alerting fatigue. I average about 900 emails a day now of various poo poo telling me one thing hit 95% cpu or another hit 80% memory. It now goes straight to the recycle bin instead of me giving a poo poo about what any of it says. Oh and I get them as text alerts too! CDW posted:
Don't worry just fake it with google coding like the rest of us!
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Oct 27, 2014 18:21
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Windows 10 Includes a Linux-Style Package Manager Named “OneGet” 
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I'm trying to explain to my helpdesk guy that he needs to get a new job if he wants any more $. They aren't going to give him $10k out of the blue unless he brings a job offer, and he could make another 20k if he took another gig. 3 years helpdesk and light server admin work, has an associates in IT. He's pretty good but lacks the confidence to go anywhere else (Feels he's not ready) even though I explain to him a lot of these jobs are 90% dealing with other people's bullshit and 10% dealing with tech. His wife isn't from here and wants to move, he has nothing tying him down except the owners of the company know his wife's parents, and at one point they secretly gave him like $2,000 to finish school. Pretty cheap price to pay for his lifetime loyalty.
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Oct 27, 2014 18:39
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Hell yes.
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Oct 27, 2014 18:46
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OneGet your browser search bars with one click.
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Oct 27, 2014 18:54
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I hope to god they integrate it with SCCM so I can stop having to pay/download update packages from Shavlik.
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Oct 27, 2014 18:56
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Funny/True story: I just searched for "OneGet" in twitter and the first tweet was a pic of a giant black cock. Of course I'm at work. Thanks to my years of experience in keyboard commands for closing windows with a swiftness I had that poo poo closed in .02 seconds. I'm at my desk laughing my rear end off. 
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Oct 27, 2014 19:02
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Fiendish Dr. Wu posted:Funny/True story: I just searched for "OneGet" in twitter and the first tweet was a pic of a giant black cock. Of course I'm at work.
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Oct 27, 2014 19:30
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Fiendish Dr. Wu posted:Funny/True story: I just searched for "OneGet" in twitter and the first tweet was a pic of a giant black cock. Of course I'm at work. I don't really know how that term could possibly result in that image, but then again, Internet.
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Oct 27, 2014 20:22
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I'm honestly surprised nobody's created a high-follower bot that tweets dick pics to all trending hashtags.
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Japanese Dating Sim posted:I don't really know how that term could possibly result in that image, but then again, Internet. I once image searched high rise apartment while striking out search terms until I didn't see anything but apartments on the first few pages. Ran out of results on page 52, which was only a partial page. Google tacked on a page 53 with three naked chicks just for good measure. I honestly wonder if they do that on purpose.
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Fiendish Dr. Wu posted:Funny/True story: I just searched for "OneGet" in twitter and the first tweet was a pic of a giant black cock. Of course I'm at work. Insert "package manager" joke here
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Japanese Dating Sim posted:I don't really know how that term could possibly result in that image, but then again, Internet. I really don't know either but I didn't wait to figure it out before CTRL+W Is it a bad thing that my first reaction was laughing instead of recoiling in revulsion? Has the internet damaged me this badly? Am I a broken person? Accretionist posted:I once image searched high rise apartment while striking out search terms until I didn't see anything but apartments on the first few pages. Ran out of results on page 52, which was only a partial page. Google tacked on a page 53 with three naked chicks just for good measure. Oh man I can't remember what it was exactly, but when I was looking up GIS for some hadoop reference architecture the first whole row was some pretty goddamn gruesome autopsy pics. Of course morbid curiosity dictated I visited the page. I'm talking cannibal corpse album cover reference material here. Granted, I wasn't in the office but gently caress.
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I was listening to my boss talk to the weird rear end network engineer at another major campus this morning and it reaffirmed my belief that social skills and not being a loving awkward nerd are as important, if not more important, than technical knowhow.
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And the biggest challenge with being a "loving awkward nerd" is that you aren't blessed with the ability to know that you are indeed a loving awkward nerd.
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Tab8715 posted:When giving out references, at what stage of the interview process is this done? I had an employer ask for them immediately which I thought was a little brash. At my work they asked if I had them ready quite promptly because it effected my security clearances. I guess that is probably the exception to the rule though. In my job I accidentally found out a senior manager is being removed from one of my projects for basically being a bit of a political animal and annoying everyone. At the same time I feel a bit sorry for him because despite this he was the main person going 'hey guys you aren't delivery x y or z' and he's been kicked out while the people who aren't delivering have taken over Little bit more to it than that but interesting times. I've also been told my assistant is leaving me but she is rubbish so I'm happy and also my seconded assistant who is a lunatic and just makes the rules up as he goes will be leaving me soon So even though I have no team above or below me at the moment I am oddly quite happy!
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psydude posted:I was listening to my boss talk to the weird rear end network engineer at another major campus this morning and it reaffirmed my belief that social skills and not being a loving awkward nerd are as important, if not more important, than technical knowhow. Dark Helmut posted:And the biggest challenge with being a "loving awkward nerd" is that you aren't blessed with the ability to know that you are indeed a loving awkward nerd. Vulture Culture fucked around with this message at 01:23 on Oct 28, 2014 |
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psydude posted:I was listening to my boss talk to the weird rear end network engineer at another major campus this morning and it reaffirmed my belief that social skills and not being a loving awkward nerd are as important, if not more important, than technical knowhow. Ability gets you a job. Bullshit gets you a career.
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go3 posted:Ability gets you a job. Bullshit gets you a career. Bullshit is the first step to getting a job, though (getting past the automatic keyword screening).
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Misogynist posted:Once in awhile you run into those people who are simultaneously really nerdy, really extroverted, and really insecure, but I've found it to be a pretty uncommon combination in most of the places I've worked. Hi!  I blew a college level interview by being awkward as gently caress. I actually went and read Jane Austin novels after so I'd sound like a grown up and not like I spend so much drat time on the Internet. I love you, Internet.
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Docjowles posted:Have they fixed the S3 web console yet, or is it still completely unusable if you have more than a couple dozen objects stored? But yeah, I pretty quickly moved to doing poo poo via the CLI and tools like s3cmd. Bit slow to respond. I don't know if they fixed it since I just dove into AWS land 4 months ago, but I will say that I currently hate the s3 web console. Granted, we have an enormous number of objects - so many that the reporting feature in the billing panel crashes and fails to generate a usage report so AWS has to generate one for us manually and email it to us. Edit for references chat: All references prove is that you know 3 people willing to give you a verbal handjob. Granted, that's something, but it's sure not a lot. My current employer called my old boss and one of my coworkers (who sat on either side of me) while I was at work and I got to hear them jerk me off, it was pretty funny.
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First time I have witnessed someone yelling at my work place today. Turns out an exec is upset and is canceling a "company dinner" that he scheduled. Too few people signed up. He is basically going around telling people how ungrateful they are and blah blah blah. The funny thing is that this "company dinner" was nothing more than meeting up at this fancy steak place close by and everyone splitting the check. Turns out he is one of those assholes who will order big and drink big while wanting to split it evenly with everyone.
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Oct 28, 2014 16:56
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Probably an executive that doesn't understand how to manage people - too common in IT from my experience. Calling people ungrateful is so loving dumb I don't know how I would react to that. It's not a "company" dinner if the company is not paying the bill.
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My boss wants me to look into replacing our desktop virus protection, from TrendMicro OfficeScan to "PC Matic". I'd never heard of it before, so I did my research: they're sponsors of some shows on Fox... which is pretty much his news source. I fear of the can of worms this will open.
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Alfajor posted:My boss wants me to look into replacing our desktop virus protection, from TrendMicro OfficeScan to "PC Matic". I'd never heard of it before, so I did my research: they're sponsors of some shows on Fox... which is pretty much his news source. Part of me hopes you stop this but most of me wants to see where this rabbit hole leads
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I work for a company that produces an Anti Virus product and I have never heard of that. Which means it is probably better than what my company produces.
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Got an interview tomorrow for a helpdesk support role and I'm trying to decide on questions to ask them at the end. In the past I've mostly asked about trivial things like dress code. The careers sites recommend asking about training opportunities and whether there is scope for promotion. Of course I am interested in those things, but it sounds a bit ballsy; IT training being as expensive as it is and wanting a better job before I have this one. Is it a good idea? Has anyone got any questions they think have helped them in an interview?
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bitterandtwisted posted:Got an interview tomorrow for a helpdesk support role and I'm trying to decide on questions to ask them at the end. In the past I've mostly asked about trivial things like dress code. The careers sites recommend asking about training opportunities and whether there is scope for promotion. Of course I am interested in those things, but it sounds a bit ballsy; IT training being as expensive as it is and wanting a better job before I have this one. Is it a good idea? Has anyone got any questions they think have helped them in an interview? Some good ones picked from an email from The Ladders: quote:
I don't think it would hurt to ask about training. Let's them see you're interested in improving yourself.
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