Steam Thread: you're not a kid any more and you want what you had when you were a kid

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Unbalanced: Sep 29, 2005

PhysicsFrenzy posted:

Just wanna drop in and say Nimble Quest was the best 49 cents I've ever spent. Granted that's a pretty specific category, but still, it's a simple, fun little time killer.

Are Claire, Crypt of the NecroDancer, The Cat Lady, or Viscera Cleanup Detail any good? Also should I bother with the collectors editions for Fallout 3 and New Vegas?

I loving love The Cat Lady. I could swear I got an email for it being in a current bundle somewhere too.

Still waiting for Crypt of the NecroDancer to get cheaper, but I hear very good things.

You really can't go wrong getting New Vegas plus all the DLC for such a cheap price. While I personally enjoyed Fallout 3, a lot of people would tell you not to bother.

e: Looks like the bundle Cat Lady was in has since expired. It shows up in bundles quite often though, so that's an option for you.

Unbalanced fucked around with this message at 05:40 on Oct 31, 2014

# ? Oct 31, 2014 05:33

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A Fancy 400 lbs: Jul 24, 2008

Fallout 3 was a bad game before New Vegas came out. New Vegas just made it that much worse in comparison.

# ? Oct 31, 2014 05:54

PhysicsFrenzy: May 30, 2011; this, too, is physics

Unbalanced posted:

I loving love The Cat Lady. I could swear I got an email for it being in a current bundle somewhere too.

Still waiting for Crypt of the NecroDancer to get cheaper, but I hear very good things.

You really can't go wrong getting New Vegas plus all the DLC for such a cheap price. While I personally enjoyed Fallout 3, a lot of people would tell you not to bother.

e: Looks like the bundle Cat Lady was in has since expired. It shows up in bundles quite often though, so that's an option for you.

Thanks!

A Fancy 400 lbs posted:

Fallout 3 was a bad game before New Vegas came out. New Vegas just made it that much worse in comparison.

But I liked Fallout 3 when I had it on console. :ohdear:

Is it really not worth it?

# ? Oct 31, 2014 05:56

Drifter: Oct 22, 2000; Belated Bear Witness; Soiled Meat

^^^ - if you've already payed it just go get Fallout New Vegas. Fallout 3's not really worth it when you've got basically the same game but better in the form of F:NV.

Unbalanced posted:

I loving love The Cat Lady. I could swear I got an email for it being in a current bundle somewhere too.

Still waiting for Crypt of the NecroDancer to get cheaper, but I hear very good things.

You really can't go wrong getting New Vegas plus all the DLC for such a cheap price. While I personally enjoyed Fallout 3, a lot of people would tell you not to bother.

e: Looks like the bundle Cat Lady was in has since expired. It shows up in bundles quite often though, so that's an option for you.

The Cat Lady's got a really good soundtrack, too.

# ? Oct 31, 2014 05:56

Cardiovorax: Jun 5, 2011; I mean, if you're a successful actress and you go out of the house in a skirt and without underwear, knowing that paparazzi are just waiting for opportunities like this and that it has happened many times before, then there's really nobody you can blame for it but yourself.

PhysicsFrenzy posted:

But I liked Fallout 3 when I had it on console. Is it really not worth it?

It's certainly worth what it costs right now. You might enjoy it a lot less than you remember, though, if you've played NV in the meantime.

# ? Oct 31, 2014 05:58

beergod: Nov 1, 2004; NOBODY WANTS TO SEE PICTURES OF YOUR UGLY FUCKING KIDS YOU DIPSHIT

I migrated an 8.1 Boot Camp install from my internal HDD to an external SSD. Every time I try to install a new game on the external SSD, it gives me a disk write error. If I delete everything except SteamApps, userdata, and Steam.exe, I can then install games and it works fine. But if I reboot, the next time I try to install a new game, I get the same error, and have to repeat the process over again.

If I try to install a new game to the internal HDD, it works fine and I get no errors.

Anyone have a clue what's going on here?

# ? Oct 31, 2014 06:01

Robot Porn: Feb 23, 2007; bored at work...

You can play FO3 in the New Vegas engine with Tale of Two Wastelands. I haven't tried it myself, but I bought FO3 with the plan to do that.

I remember liking FO3 a lot and then being soured on the later DLCs because all the enemies just soaked up damage instead of being genuinely difficult.

# ? Oct 31, 2014 06:02

Leper Residue: Sep 28, 2003; To where no dog has gone before.

Unbalanced posted:

I loving love The Cat Lady. I could swear I got an email for it being in a current bundle somewhere too.

Still waiting for Crypt of the NecroDancer to get cheaper, but I hear very good things.

You really can't go wrong getting New Vegas plus all the DLC for such a cheap price. While I personally enjoyed Fallout 3, a lot of people would tell you not to bother.

e: Looks like the bundle Cat Lady was in has since expired. It shows up in bundles quite often though, so that's an option for you.

The Cat Lady is in fact awesome and owns bones. It's got some rough spots, but nothing that hurts it too much, and the strongs are very strong.

http://www.bundlestars.com/all-bundles/carnage-bundle/

On sale with a bunch of other (not so good) games for 2.99

# ? Oct 31, 2014 06:02

Tezzeract: Dec 25, 2007; Think I took a wrong turn...

Icewind Dale Enhanced: sounds like Beamdog figured out how to make those Infinity Engine games less terrible.

"One new change that Beamdog have introduced that I can�t applaud enough though is Story Mode. This is essentially easy-easy-easy mode. Not only the Strength scores of all your characters set to 25, so even the most wizened old mage is a monster in melee, but you are also invulnerable and get 100% more experience."

http://games.on.net/2014/10/icewind-dale-enhanced-edition/

# ? Oct 31, 2014 06:02

Manatee Cannon: Aug 26, 2010

Fallout 3 was great at the time. Neither it or New Vegas hold up great but they're still fine. They're both buggy, though.

# ? Oct 31, 2014 06:06

Moryrie: Sep 24, 2012

Robot Porn posted:

You can play FO3 in the New Vegas engine with Tale of Two Wastelands. I haven't tried it myself, but I bought FO3 with the plan to do that.

I remember liking FO3 a lot and then being soured on the later DLCs because all the enemies just soaked up damage instead of being genuinely difficult.

That's how I played Fallout 3. It's got some bugs, but it's better than having to mod in ironsights/modkits/some other stuff. But I made the mistake of playing 3 after FONV, so I thought it was awful, boring, and.. surprisingly short. And I like Oblivion for reference. So.. I'd really not recommend Fallout 3. FONV is awesome. FO3 is just sad.

# ? Oct 31, 2014 06:06

Accordion Man: Nov 7, 2012; Buglord

Fallout 3 is a good game, but yeah, the only thing it has over New Vegas is the atmosphere. New Vegas really just wasn't fun to explore like 3 was.

# ? Oct 31, 2014 06:07

Propaganda Hour: Aug 25, 2008; after editing wikipedia as a joke for 16 years, i ve convinced myself that homer simpson's japanese name translates to the "The beer goblin"

Robot Porn posted:

You can play FO3 in the New Vegas engine with Tale of Two Wastelands. I haven't tried it myself, but I bought FO3 with the plan to do that.

I remember liking FO3 a lot and then being soured on the later DLCs because all the enemies just soaked up damage instead of being genuinely difficult.

DLC - or rather end game - scaling is also problematic in NV. Old World Blues in particular can get extraordinarily annoying depending on what point you engage in the story.

I'm in the same boat with Fallout 3. I enjoyed it when it came out but it's another 'mile wide, inch deep' bethesda RPG which leaves you with an enjoyable but ultimately forgettable experience. At this point it's just a vague memory of playing and having a pretty good time, but I can't really remember anything that happened outside of maybe three main story related events, which is a drat shame for an open world game.

# ? Oct 31, 2014 06:13

Manatee Cannon: Aug 26, 2010

I will say that most of the Fallout 3 DLC isn't good. The one that fixes the ending and the swamp are ok, the rest aren't that fun. New Vegas DLC areas crashed my game every time I tried to play them and I gave up after a while, so I can't say on that. I also agree with Accordion Man that exploring the wasteland is more fun in Fallout 3 than in New Vegas.

# ? Oct 31, 2014 06:18

Cardiovorax: Jun 5, 2011; I mean, if you're a successful actress and you go out of the house in a skirt and without underwear, knowing that paparazzi are just waiting for opportunities like this and that it has happened many times before, then there's really nobody you can blame for it but yourself.

Probably because NV's map was a lot more structured. It actually made sense as a place, kinda, while FO3 was basically just a wild jumble of random setpieces. You could run into pretty much anythin pretty much anywhere. NV gave you a pretty good idea of what to expect just from the layout of things.

# ? Oct 31, 2014 06:24

Away all Goats: Jul 5, 2005; Goose's rebellion

Accordion Man posted:

Fallout 3 is a good game, but yeah, the only thing it has over New Vegas is the atmosphere. New Vegas really just wasn't fun to explore like 3 was.

Yeah for Fallout 4 I hope they can somehow reconcile the exploration/atmosphere of Fallout 3 with the structure/storytelling of NV. I enjoyed NV for its quests and characters but exploring the Capitol Wasteland without a leash or walls is probably one of my favorite gaming experiences in recent memory.

# ? Oct 31, 2014 06:28

oblomov: Jun 20, 2002; Meh... #overrated

Are you all playing Fallout 3/NV with mods or without? Since it's a whole lot of a different game(s) with the mods once you through say around 50-200 of them (or some of the more encompassing poo poo) on there. Combat, atmosphere, graphics, leveling, mobs, etc... it all becomes better.

I mean, any Bethesda game since Morrowind (best Bethesda game to date) you pretty much should expect to mod the poo poo out of before it gets to be great. Hence the open wide modding support and PC version always being the best. That said, I liked Fallout 3 environments/atmosphere better (with some nice mods around lightning/etc...) and liked NV quests/structure/dialogue better. Still, mods, mods and once again, mods, folks.

Again, they fix the lovely environmental filters, lighting, weather, UI, NPCs, companions, combat (so, so much better), leveling, enemy scaling/placement, weapons and much much more. Hell, this is making me think of reinstalling Fallout 3 GOTY and hunting down the best mods again. Getting the better mods all to work together is sort of a game in itself though :P.

Edit: caution, Fallout 3 may have Games for Windows Live, if it's still true and Bethesda didn't pull it, then NV is better (... with mods).

oblomov fucked around with this message at 06:44 on Oct 31, 2014

# ? Oct 31, 2014 06:41

Kennel: May 1, 2008; BAWWW-UNH!

PhysicsFrenzy posted:

Just wanna drop in and say Nimble Quest was the best 49 cents I've ever spent. Granted that's a pretty specific category, but still, it's a simple, fun little time killer.

Yeah, Nimble Quest is pretty fun snake variant.

# ? Oct 31, 2014 07:08

Palpek: Dec 27, 2008; Do you feel it, Zach?
My coffee warned me about it.

oblomov posted:

Are you all playing Fallout 3/NV with mods or without? Since it's a whole lot of a different game(s) with the mods once you through say around 50-200 of them (or some of the more encompassing poo poo) on there. Combat, atmosphere, graphics, leveling, mobs, etc... it all becomes better.

I mean, any Bethesda game since Morrowind (best Bethesda game to date) you pretty much should expect to mod the poo poo out of before it gets to be great. Hence the open wide modding support and PC version always being the best. That said, I liked Fallout 3 environments/atmosphere better (with some nice mods around lightning/etc...) and liked NV quests/structure/dialogue better. Still, mods, mods and once again, mods, folks.

Again, they fix the lovely environmental filters, lighting, weather, UI, NPCs, companions, combat (so, so much better), leveling, enemy scaling/placement, weapons and much much more. Hell, this is making me think of reinstalling Fallout 3 GOTY and hunting down the best mods again. Getting the better mods all to work together is sort of a game in itself though :P.

Edit: caution, Fallout 3 may have Games for Windows Live, if it's still true and Bethesda didn't pull it, then NV is better (... with mods).

Everybody knows about Bethesda games mods. The problem is that the moment you start hunting the worthwhile ones down and installing them it becomes a second job to the point where when you actually make it all work you just switch the game off.

For Fallout 3 I recommend Fellout, NMC's Tecture Pack and the unofficial patch. You can go for Wanderers Edition if you're filling Stalker-y. Leave it at that or you won't ever start playing the actual game.

Palpek fucked around with this message at 07:14 on Oct 31, 2014

# ? Oct 31, 2014 07:09

A Fancy 400 lbs: Jul 24, 2008

Cardiovorax posted:

Probably because NV's map was a lot more structured. It actually made sense as a place, kinda, while FO3 was basically just a wild jumble of random setpieces. You could run into pretty much anythin pretty much anywhere. NV gave you a pretty good idea of what to expect just from the layout of things.

This is why I like NV so much better(besides the godawful even by games standards writing in FO3). New Vegas is a professionally cooked and plated meal, and FO3 is a casserole made by a drunk bachelor out of whatever they thought sounded good at the moment.

Also, I just got BlazBlue from the Doujin bundle, why the gently caress is it 12 GB? What could possibly take up 12 GB of space in a 2D sprite based fighting game? Is it uncompressed 1080p cutscenes for arcade mode or something?

# ? Oct 31, 2014 07:10

Lonely Rolling Star: Mar 20, 2009; Better than a crowbar.

oblomov posted:

Edit: caution, Fallout 3 may have Games for Windows Live, if it's still true and Bethesda didn't pull it, then NV is better (... with mods).

On my retail pc copy of Fallout 3, GFWL was a complete nonissue. I don't know if you can just not bother with it on the Steam version or not. Even so I'd still recommend New Vegas instead. The overworld isn't as sandboxy, but you aren't forced to trudge through miles of identical subway tunnels as part of the plot either.

# ? Oct 31, 2014 07:10

Croccers: Jun 15, 2012

Grapplejack posted:

Unknown studio , lofty idea, expensive early access? Yeah no thanks.

Unknown? They made Expeditions: Conquistador :shrug:

Dunno if it's any good. But that game is a TBS RPG, not an action sneaky thing.

# ? Oct 31, 2014 07:12

Cardiovorax: Jun 5, 2011; I mean, if you're a successful actress and you go out of the house in a skirt and without underwear, knowing that paparazzi are just waiting for opportunities like this and that it has happened many times before, then there's really nobody you can blame for it but yourself.

Croccers posted:

Unknown? They made Expeditions: Conquistador
Dunno if it's any good.

It's not.

# ? Oct 31, 2014 07:13

Bobby The Rookie: Jun 2, 2005

Cardiovorax posted:

It's not.

Actually it's pretty good.

# ? Oct 31, 2014 07:17

Palpek: Dec 27, 2008; Do you feel it, Zach?
My coffee warned me about it.

He's talking about their new game and not Expeditions.

# ? Oct 31, 2014 07:18

Cardiovorax: Jun 5, 2011; I mean, if you're a successful actress and you go out of the house in a skirt and without underwear, knowing that paparazzi are just waiting for opportunities like this and that it has happened many times before, then there's really nobody you can blame for it but yourself.

No, actually I was talking about Expeditions. I thought it was pretty lovely.

# ? Oct 31, 2014 07:20

Palpek: Dec 27, 2008; Do you feel it, Zach?
My coffee warned me about it.

Oh, well then yeah you're wrong, it's a great game.

# ? Oct 31, 2014 07:23

Testekill: Nov 1, 2012; I demand to be taken seriously

Drifter posted:

Sometimes the extra effort's not worth it.

Those sound like the words of a quitter to me.

# ? Oct 31, 2014 07:34

Testekill: Nov 1, 2012; I demand to be taken seriously

Tezzeract posted:

Icewind Dale Enhanced: sounds like Beamdog figured out how to make those Infinity Engine games less terrible.

"One new change that Beamdog have introduced that I can�t applaud enough though is Story Mode. This is essentially easy-easy-easy mode. Not only the Strength scores of all your characters set to 25, so even the most wizened old mage is a monster in melee, but you are also invulnerable and get 100% more experience."

http://games.on.net/2014/10/icewind-dale-enhanced-edition/

What is the point of story mode? Icewind Dale barely has a story to begin with and it's mostly just jumping from combat area to combat area.

# ? Oct 31, 2014 07:37

Orv: May 4, 2011

Testekill posted:

What is the point of story mode? Icewind Dale barely has a story to begin with and it's mostly just jumping from combat area to combat area.

Who knows. The entire point of IWD 1 is an ultra-challenging series of combat rooms, and even IWD2 has more story than 1. Which is to say any.

# ? Oct 31, 2014 07:38

SelenicMartian: Sep 14, 2013; Sometimes it's not the bomb that's retarded.

Icewind Dale is also the game where you can import the entire party back to the start of the plot at any moment.

That entire review is fantastic, by the way. He keeps complaining it's not Baldur's Gate.

# ? Oct 31, 2014 07:44

Cardiovorax: Jun 5, 2011; I mean, if you're a successful actress and you go out of the house in a skirt and without underwear, knowing that paparazzi are just waiting for opportunities like this and that it has happened many times before, then there's really nobody you can blame for it but yourself.

Which is a pretty good and reasonable complaint to make about any game.

# ? Oct 31, 2014 07:54

LibbyM: Dec 7, 2011

I know I'm in a minority on this, but I legit think taking the gameplay of baldur's gate and stripping away all of the story makes for a better game.

# ? Oct 31, 2014 08:08

Synthbuttrange: May 6, 2007

No do it the other way around. Baldur's Gate the dating sim.

# ? Oct 31, 2014 08:09

Ekster: Jul 18, 2013

Low-level D&D kind of sucks in my opinion so I didn't like BG1 or IW that much.

# ? Oct 31, 2014 08:10

RBA Starblade: Apr 28, 2008; Going Home.

Games Idiot Court Jester

Lonely Rolling Star posted:

On my retail pc copy of Fallout 3, GFWL was a complete nonissue. I don't know if you can just not bother with it on the Steam version or not. Even so I'd still recommend New Vegas instead. The overworld isn't as sandboxy, but you aren't forced to trudge through miles of identical subway tunnels as part of the plot either.

IIRC you need to go into the DC metro exactly once ever in Fallout 3. Twice if you count Broken Steel. FO3 and NV are both good games that have their own issues.

quote:

New Vegas is a professionally cooked and plated meal, and FO3 is a casserole made by a drunk bachelor out of whatever they thought sounded good at the moment.

I'd call NV food truck food instead, based on the quality of the product. Bethesda and Obsidian aren't really known for their stellar qa and bug-free releases. Not to mention that a lot of that professional overworld is boring and not worth visiting.

RBA Starblade fucked around with this message at 08:16 on Oct 31, 2014

# ? Oct 31, 2014 08:12

Palpek: Dec 27, 2008; Do you feel it, Zach?
My coffee warned me about it.

Tezzeract posted:

Icewind Dale Enhanced: sounds like Beamdog figured out how to make those Infinity Engine games less terrible.

"One new change that Beamdog have introduced that I can�t applaud enough though is Story Mode. This is essentially easy-easy-easy mode. Not only the Strength scores of all your characters set to 25, so even the most wizened old mage is a monster in melee, but you are also invulnerable and get 100% more experience."

http://games.on.net/2014/10/icewind-dale-enhanced-edition/

This sounds dumb as hell. Yes, let's remove the challenge from this hard but fair game and focus on the non-existing plot instead.

# ? Oct 31, 2014 08:14

LibbyM: Dec 7, 2011

Palpek posted:

This sounds dumb as hell. Yes, let's remove the challenge from this hard but fair game and focus on the non-existing plot instead.

It sounds like a feature idea they had for BG:EE but didn't have time to add in, and they thought they'd throw it in now with IWD even though it makes no sense.

# ? Oct 31, 2014 08:16

odiv: Jan 12, 2003

Man, I was all excited to play IWD again, but you guys are bumming me out.

I never finished Bastion; rage quit after failing the shield challenge for the Nth time (holy gently caress, why did you decide to rotate away from the incoming projectile that I've been facing this whole time). Should I get Transistor? $10 seems like a good price.

# ? Oct 31, 2014 08:24

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saucerman: Mar 20, 2009

Re: How to exclude DLC from the Steam search:

Dudebro posted:

They need an exclusion checklist, like exclude DLCs.

It is still there: On the right, under "Show selected types" check the "Games" option.

# ? Oct 31, 2014 08:25

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