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I have seen the error of my ways and shall soon update my blog with a wall of text concerning the gross defamation of my people's heritage that is caused by amazon selling rabbi halloween costumes
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This Italian guy I know dressed up as a Muslim. I think most people on here would love a concept like that!
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Nov 2, 2014 00:17
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Perdido posted:This Italian guy I know dressed up as a Muslim. I think most people on here would love a concept like that! You know Muhammad Hussan?
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Nov 2, 2014 00:19
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dsriggs posted:You know Muhammad Hussan? No.
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Endorph posted:my jeep is a cherokee and personally Yup, totally the same thing.
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I have some reservations about Renee's costume, but I don't think it's serious enough we should be getting injun-ctions to stop her wearing it again or anything.Endorph posted:gently caress racism, who did it ever beat?
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Nov 2, 2014 00:32
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The winners of Bryan and Brie's Twitter costume contest 
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Nov 2, 2014 00:38
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Gonzo McFee posted:Wasn't Tatanka white? Tatanka was about the only dude ever in wrestling who played a Native American and actually was one.
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Nov 2, 2014 00:40
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Gonzo McFee posted:Wasn't Tatanka white? No, Tatanka is native as all hell.
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Daniel Bryan posted:The winners of Bryan and Brie's Twitter costume contest Is that Edward Norton?
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umm Every single week he was referred to as "The Native American Tatanka" so I have no reason to doubt his ethnicity
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Nov 2, 2014 00:41
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I can't find it now but there was an episode of WWE Inbox on Youtube and the questiong was something along the lines of "what was your favourite Halloween costume?" and Alicia Fox said it was when she dressed up as an indian and even did the hand on your mouth "woo woo woo" thing and apparently nobody cared. I was massively surprised that they included that in the episode... but that's off the thread's topic so I appologise. Here's a pic from twitter of some NXT women dressed up: Batman theme seems popular  link to tweet Sasha Banks, Dana Brooke (presumably, from the mentioned accounts), Carmella, Charlotte Flair, Becky Lynch, Jojo.
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Nov 2, 2014 00:43
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Gonzo McFee posted:Wasn't Tatanka white? He's Lumbee, if I remember correctly. Perdido posted:This Italian guy I know dressed up as a Muslim. I think most people on here would love a concept like that! I've heard tale of a Canadian who purports he's an Hispanic in charge of an orphanage. Seriously though, I was raised to believe that malice was the thing to get offended by. I may not be a Native American, but I don't see any malicious intent toward the Native American culture in Renee wearing a headdress with her Halloween costume. Now, it's one thing to be insensitive or ignorant to that fact, but if you're going to judge someone as offensive because someone else was offended, there has to be some actual offense on their part, y'know?
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OmegaBR posted:He's Lumbee, if I remember correctly. There is a difference between malicious racism and casual racism, but they're both still racist. She might have no clue that a lot of native Americans (other than 1/4 Cherokee guy here, I guess) find that poo poo super offensive. I'm not saying we stone her to death or anything, but maybe she should be made aware and not do it again because it still furthers awful stereotypes no matter her intentions.
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Nov 2, 2014 02:22
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OmegaBR posted:He's Lumbee, if I remember correctly. You're right, and the people you're explaining this to have been going out of their way to demonstrate who is the most viscerally upset about anybody associated with WWE doing anything that can be interpreted as insensitive or offensive in any context, some of them uninterrupted for the better part of a decade, so you're not going to score any points here.
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Nov 2, 2014 02:23
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Go read the PYF Cosplay thread's recent racism/blackface derail and look at how stupid it was so you'll lose all your potential will to talk about it here too.
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Nov 2, 2014 02:27
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my roommate dressed as a lego man and i think it's disgusting the sort of statement that makes to Plastically Inclined People
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Nov 2, 2014 02:31
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Don't dress up as racial stereotypes especially if your ancestors probably have a hand in their genocide thank you very much.
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Nov 2, 2014 02:36
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racism, and people posting about it on SA, are equally bad
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Nov 2, 2014 02:40
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imo racism is dumb, just like this derail
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Nov 2, 2014 02:41
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Gonzo McFee posted:Don't dress up as racial stereotypes especially if your ancestors probably have a hand in their genocide thank you very much. Why you gotta take away my freedom like that? Do you have any idea how many races my ancestors hosed over to get those rights? Put yourself in my shoes, man.
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TheJoker138 posted:There is a difference between malicious racism and casual racism, but they're both still racist. She might have no clue that a lot of native Americans (other than 1/4 Cherokee guy here, I guess) find that poo poo super offensive. I'm not saying we stone her to death or anything, but maybe she should be made aware and not do it again because it still furthers awful stereotypes no matter her intentions. What's the awful stereotype in wearing a headdress? If you really want to play the "I"M OFFENDED" card, I'd argue it's a form of cultural appropriation, because I sincerely doubt that Renee Young was intending to mock or denigrate people with her costume...she chose it because she thought it looked cute or cool. That said, if you're going to get your knickers in a twist over something like that, you should be doing the same with Rusev, Santino and yes, El Generico because they're all playing on cultural stereotypes that could be viewed as offensive. You should also be getting pissed off with St. Patrick's Day, given that it's cultural appropriation of the Irish, as well as a whole laundry list of other poo poo that occurs in our culture (Batista's "tribal" tattoos, for example.)
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Perdido posted:cultural appropriation please no also i wore my bjj gi as my halloween costume, did i accidentally offend brazilians or asian folk?
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Gonzo McFee posted:Don't dress up as racial stereotypes especially if your ancestors probably have a hand in their genocide thank you very much. You're such a hypersensitive, well-intentioned retard that there's indelible documentary proof you thought Vince McMahon was going to have Michael Cole call Barack Obama a negro on live television. This is not a funny ironic exaggeration or misinterpretation, your hosed up rear end retard brain actually thought that would happen on the basis of the Spanish word for black being used to differentiate a guy wearing a black mask from a guy wearing a blue version of the same mask. http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3441241&userid=165453#post396359465
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Top Bunk Wanker posted:You're such a hypersensitive, well-intentioned retard that there's indelible documentary proof you thought Vince McMahon was going to have Michael Cole call Barack Obama a negro on live television. This is not a funny ironic exaggeration or misinterpretation, your hosed up rear end retard brain actually thought that would happen on the basis of the Spanish word for black being used to differentiate a guy wearing a black mask from a guy wearing a blue version of the same mask. http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3441241&userid=165453#post396359465 can you quote this for people w/out archives so we can all have a laugh
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Nov 2, 2014 02:50
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holy poo poo that post is from 2011
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Nov 2, 2014 02:50
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Yuriy posted:please no I don't really subscribe to it personally. But it's funny how everyone thinks Rusev is a great character, despite basically being a horde of Russian stereotypes. But that's okay, because reasons. quote:also i wore my bjj gi as my halloween costume, did i accidentally offend brazilians or asian folk? That depends. Were you wearing a black, white or blue gi?
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Nov 2, 2014 02:51
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Perdido posted:I don't really subscribe to it personally. But it's funny how everyone thinks Rusev is a great character, despite basically being a horde of Russian stereotypes. But that's okay, because reasons. white
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Nov 2, 2014 02:52
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Shima Honnou posted:imo racism is dumb, just like this derail You thin-skinned assholes are missing how awesome this tweet was.
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Perdido posted:What's the awful stereotype in wearing a headdress? I think Rusev and Santino are both kind of offensive, at least really racially broad and tone deaf to what decade we're in. Also I officially consider it part of St Patrick's Day festivities to find a bar with an Irish bartender who will spend the day laughing at all the silly Americans doing things Irish people never do. Do I pass? I really just think Renee should pick a costume next year that isn't based on a racial stereotype. Seems reasonable to me.
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Yuriy posted:can you quote this for people w/out archives so we can all have a laugh quote:I think the Negro thing is a can of worms that should be handled by someone with decent writing skills and tact in order to cause as little offence as possible, especially in America where racial tensions run high even to this day. quote:No, I'm looking at the word Negro being put into the hands of Vince McMahon. Do you want "Perhaps we should have Sin Cara NEGRO as president, I mean COO" words to come out of Cole's mouth? quote:Mohammed Hassan did a mock terrorist execution of the Undertaker and they decided it was okay to broadcast on the day of the London terrorist attacks.
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Realtalk you really shouldn't be wearing a war bonnet unless you're an actual honored Native American warrior (which I doubt Renee is) and the trend of people wearing them for fashion is really awful. Here's a good article about it. It hasn't really sunken in with people as a whole that it's a bad thing to do though and Renee hopefully and most likely wasn't being actively racist when she decided to dress up as a dead native american for halloween, but the thing to do isn't to yell at people for pointing out that she did a dumb thing, really
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STAC Goat posted:I think Rusev and Santino are both kind of offensive, at least really racially broad and tone deaf to what decade we're in. Also I officially consider it part of St Patrick's Day festivities to find a bar with an Irish bartender who will spend the day laughing at all the silly Americans doing things Irish people never do. Do you ask him to write "gently caress off" in the foam of your Guinness, too? quote:Do I pass? I really just think Renee should pick a costume next year that isn't based on a racial stereotype. Seems reasonable to me. I really don't give a poo poo. I just find it funny that people are praising the Bulgarian man playing a caricatured Russian while simultaneously bitching about "awful" racial stereotypes and thought I'd point it out. 
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Nov 2, 2014 02:58
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Hahahahahahahahahahaha
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I think it is a nuanced situation and it's possible for something to be simultaneously racist, and also not really that big a deal in the grand scheme of things that are racist. I think it's probably a bit much to say that people who aren't freaking out over Renee Young's lack of knowledge about the concept of cultural appropriation are "without human empathy", because, jesus loving christ.
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Nov 2, 2014 03:03
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hahahah ty
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Lmfao
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You wanna talk about racism and cultural appropriations?!?! You wanna talk about racism and cultural appropriations?!? Then go ahead fellas, I'm not gonna stop you geez.
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