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Jan
Feb 27, 2008

The disruptive powers of excessive national fecundity may have played a greater part in bursting the bonds of convention than either the power of ideas or the errors of autocracy.

rt_hat posted:

I understand that if a manufacturer or someone put in modified drivers on that device

I'm pretty certain this is impossible.

You need drivers to interface at with a USB drive in the first place. If a USB drive had to provide drivers itself, it wouldn't be able to provide them since it would be unreadable for lack of drivers. Chicken and egg situation, basically. To break this, it's up to the OS to provide drivers to read the USB drive and whatever filesystem it is formatted with. Since the host OS has to provide its own driver, this is basically not an infection vector.

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Alereon
Feb 6, 2004

Dehumanize yourself and face to Trumpshed
College Slice

rt_hat posted:

I've got a stupid question about USB memory sticks and security.

Or would it be safer to use memory cards like CF or SD through a USB memory card reader, assuming I trust the memory card reader ?
You're going kinda far down the rabbit hole here, do you worry about where you get your mice from? You're correct not to run random drives from unknown sources, but name-brand drives you source from a legitimate reseller (NOT some Amazon store) are fine.

Jan posted:

I'm pretty certain this is impossible.

You need drivers to interface at with a USB drive in the first place. If a USB drive had to provide drivers itself, it wouldn't be able to provide them since it would be unreadable for lack of drivers. Chicken and egg situation, basically. To break this, it's up to the OS to provide drivers to read the USB drive and whatever filesystem it is formatted with. Since the host OS has to provide its own driver, this is basically not an infection vector.
This actually isn't true if the USB device itself is malicious, as opposed to just being a USB Mass Storage device with a malicious file sitting on it. The device has full access to system memory even without the OS's cooperation, so even disabling ports or controllers in the device manager isn't full protection from a malicious device. Are you necessarily going to notice if another HID-Compliant USB Keyboard appears in Device Manager, using default drivers so Windows didn't prompt you? There's also the BadUSB thing from Blackhat, but we are kinda getting into crazy person territory rather than legitimate security threats for most people.

I strongly recommend that everyone read James Mickens' "This World of Ours" about realistic threat models. In summary, here are the three types of threats you face and how you mitigate them:

Casual attackers, like ex-partners and script kiddies: Use strong passwords and try not to make any seriously boneheaded mistakes.

Determined attackers, like criminals: Use really strong passwords and try not to make any mistakes, pay more attention to covering your poo poo.

The Mossad or the NSA: "YOU’RE GONNA DIE AND THERE’S NOTHING THAT YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT"

Someone handing out malicious USB drives at a conference is more like #2, so yeah don't do that. Slipping malicious USB drives into the channel under a real brand is more like #3.

TSBX
Apr 24, 2010
Just fished an Intel Quad Core Duo out of a bad mobo, and was wondering if a generalized clone using something like Acronis would let me swap it out for the Core 2 Duo in another machine without having to re-install everything.

EDIT: Actually, sysprep would probably work instead, right?

socialsecurity
Aug 30, 2003





TSBX posted:

Just fished an Intel Quad Core Duo out of a bad mobo, and was wondering if a generalized clone using something like Acronis would let me swap it out for the Core 2 Duo in another machine without having to re-install everything.

EDIT: Actually, sysprep would probably work instead, right?

Sysprep would but honestly these days you could probably just switch it and Windows will figure itself out.

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

TSBX posted:

Just fished an Intel Quad Core Duo out of a bad mobo, and was wondering if a generalized clone using something like Acronis would let me swap it out for the Core 2 Duo in another machine without having to re-install everything.

EDIT: Actually, sysprep would probably work instead, right?

If you're just swapping a CPU then what are you planning on cloning to/from?

Just stick the CPU in and if it works it will boot up and that's it.

TSBX
Apr 24, 2010

FCKGW posted:

If you're just swapping a CPU then what are you planning on cloning to/from?

Just stick the CPU in and if it works it will boot up and that's it.

It's for a PC I sold on Craigslist and the guy lives an hour away, but heads up this way every once in a while, so I was wanting to swap them out and get him back up and running with whatever he put on there in a few hours so I don't have to drive 2 hours again.

IAmKale
Jun 7, 2007

やらないか

Fun Shoe
I couldn't find a "short questions" thread in IYG so I'm hoping it's alright to post this here. Anyway, does such a thing exist as a male-to-male 90-degree HDMI adapter? I recently received a PlayStation TV and I want to wire it into a small 4-port HDMI switch without having a bunch of stiff cable sticking out behind the switch. Something like this:



The M-to-F adapter is a piece of cake to find - I purchased one a few months back from Monoprice. Unfortunately, it seems as though no one needs a M-to-M variant of that adapter so it's all but impossible to find. Have you guys seen anything like this? Is there a better way to accomplish this setup?

Gothmog1065
May 14, 2009

Karthe posted:

I couldn't find a "short questions" thread in IYG so I'm hoping it's alright to post this here. Anyway, does such a thing exist as a male-to-male 90-degree HDMI adapter? I recently received a PlayStation TV and I want to wire it into a small 4-port HDMI switch without having a bunch of stiff cable sticking out behind the switch. Something like this:



The M-to-F adapter is a piece of cake to find - I purchased one a few months back from Monoprice. Unfortunately, it seems as though no one needs a M-to-M variant of that adapter so it's all but impossible to find. Have you guys seen anything like this? Is there a better way to accomplish this setup?

I've never seen one like that. I've seen a male-male straight, but not a 90 degree bend. You'd probably be just as easily served by getting a short 1.5' cable and just keeping it looped. That way you still have flexibility on the line if something gets moved for whatever reason. My only question is do you know if the PSTV is going to sit at the perfect height for the two 90 degree adapters to work right? If not you're looking at possible stresses breaking something over time, or using gap spacers of some sort. I would just go with a short cable in this case.

IAmKale
Jun 7, 2007

やらないか

Fun Shoe

Gothmog1065 posted:

I've never seen one like that. I've seen a male-male straight, but not a 90 degree bend. You'd probably be just as easily served by getting a short 1.5' cable and just keeping it looped. That way you still have flexibility on the line if something gets moved for whatever reason. My only question is do you know if the PSTV is going to sit at the perfect height for the two 90 degree adapters to work right? If not you're looking at possible stresses breaking something over time, or using gap spacers of some sort. I would just go with a short cable in this case.
The PSTV won't sit flush with the top of the switch so I knew I'd have to put some kind of spacer under it no matter what. The reason I was looking to do something crazy like this is because I wanted to mount the HDMI switch towards the back of my desk, where it only has a few inches of clearance from the wall. I had previously used a short HDMI cable (about a foot long) but all that extra coiled-up cable was ugly and pushed the switch forward more than I wanted. It also prevented the PSTV from resting nicely on top of the switch, as the TV is pretty light and can't help but get jostled around.

I think at this point I'll just reconnect the short HDMI cable and use some of those 3M Command strips to stick the PSTV and switch together.

Grawl
Aug 28, 2008

Do the D.A.N.C.E
1234, fight!
Stick to the B.E.A.T
Get ready to ignite
You were such a P.Y.T
Catching all the lights
Just easy as A.B.C
That's how we make it right
I got a new PC a few months ago, and connected my flight stick only yesterday through the front USB 3.0. Last night I turned my PC off, but noticed that the stick was still receiving power (a green light will keep burning). Is this normal? The PC is not sleeping, since it goes through BIOS when I press the power button. This makes me assume the PC was fully powered off.

Win 8.1 prof. btw.

TWBalls
Apr 16, 2003
My medication never lies
What PC (or motherboard, if it's a custom built)? I've seen some that have features in the BIOS that allow charging via some USB ports while the PC is off.

Grawl
Aug 28, 2008

Do the D.A.N.C.E
1234, fight!
Stick to the B.E.A.T
Get ready to ignite
You were such a P.Y.T
Catching all the lights
Just easy as A.B.C
That's how we make it right

TWBalls posted:

What PC (or motherboard, if it's a custom built)? I've seen some that have features in the BIOS that allow charging via some USB ports while the PC is off.

It's this PC (Dutch site, sorry).

Alereon
Feb 6, 2004

Dehumanize yourself and face to Trumpshed
College Slice

Grawl posted:

It's this PC (Dutch site, sorry).
That board powers the USB from the +5VSB (StandBy) rail that remains powered even when the system is turned off. There may be a jumper that allows you to disable this (switching USB to the normal +5V rail), but customer reviews indicate there is not.

TWBalls
Apr 16, 2003
My medication never lies

Grawl posted:

It's this PC (Dutch site, sorry).

I'm pretty sure that's what it is then. I have an older Gigabyte motherboard (X58 chipset) that supports that feature. I think it's called Charge ON/OFF. I looked up the manual for your board, but didn't see anything that mentioned how to turn that feature off (not sure if you want to disable it or not).

I think there may be a piece of software from their website that you can download to enable/disable it.

Grawl
Aug 28, 2008

Do the D.A.N.C.E
1234, fight!
Stick to the B.E.A.T
Get ready to ignite
You were such a P.Y.T
Catching all the lights
Just easy as A.B.C
That's how we make it right

TWBalls posted:

I'm pretty sure that's what it is then. I have an older Gigabyte motherboard (X58 chipset) that supports that feature. I think it's called Charge ON/OFF. I looked up the manual for your board, but didn't see anything that mentioned how to turn that feature off (not sure if you want to disable it or not).

I think there may be a piece of software from their website that you can download to enable/disable it.

I have no need to turn it off, but I was just surprised because I thought my PC was on.

Thanks for the feedback.

Meaty Ore
Dec 17, 2011

My God, it's full of cat pictures!

My four-year old homebuilt desktop computer has been hamstrung by a pitifully small 320-GB HDD, and I've finally gotten around to purchasing a new 2TB internal drive--there's only about 40GB of free space left on the old drive. Now I've never actually had to upgrade a working hard drive before; the only time I've upgraded drives was after a crash. What's the best way to go about replacing the old drive? I've got a backup of all my important data on an external drive if something goes wrong, so no worries there.

Tapedump
Aug 31, 2007
College Slice
Connect new drive, use Macrium Reflect Free to clone new to old, reboot and change boot order in BIOS to boot from new drive.

Meaty Ore
Dec 17, 2011

My God, it's full of cat pictures!

Tapedump posted:

Connect new drive, use Macrium Reflect Free to clone new to old, reboot and change boot order in BIOS to boot from new drive.

Sounds easy enough. Got a link for this Macrium Reflect Free program?

Tapedump
Aug 31, 2007
College Slice
:crossarms: https://www.google.com/search?q=Macrium+Reflect+Free (hint: you want the one from Macrium.com)

Meaty Ore
Dec 17, 2011

My God, it's full of cat pictures!

Wonderful, thanks.

Chuu
Sep 11, 2004

Grimey Drawer
Thinking about buying an Intel Phi to play around with while the $199 developer promo is still around. The problem is I have no idea how to cool them in a standard PC case. They look like this:



They are basically a giant shroud around a setup that looks an awfully like a video card. Just like a video card, they have to be actively cooled, but they don't integrate a blower and rely on server integrators to handle cooling. It's a 225W TDP for reference.

How would I go about cooling this in a standard PC case?

csidle
Jul 31, 2007

Rexxed posted:

You can do either or both. Right now you have a 2.5" sata hard disk and a mSATA SSD. Your model of laptop's specs are on pg 26 of:
http://www.lenovo.com/psref/pdf/edgebook_WE.pdf

The easiest thing is to replace the regular hard disk with a SSD. It would go something like this:
docs: http://support.lenovo.com/us/en/documents/pd024447
movie: http://support.lenovo.com/us/en/videos/pd027000

plus moving the installation over with drive imaging software and a USB to sata adapter (or using desktop computer with two free sata ports).

If you want to replace the cache SSD in the mSATA slot that is also an option. You'd disable Express Cache software to stop it from using that as a cache disk and install another SSD in the slot.
The msata replacement is under the keyboard, see the bottom 1/3 of this page:
http://support.lenovo.com/en/documents/pd024451

I'm thinking of purchasing this to replace my mSATA. Will it slot right into the same connectors as my mSATA is on, or will I need to buy some sort of adapter?
http://www.bj-trading.dk/bjshop/default.asp?pv=MZ-7TE250BW&pn=SAMSUNG&vare=924971&f=edbp (Danish site)

e: Looks like it says that it's delivered with a SATA-600 interface, so I guess it's ok. I've ordered it now, but of course I'd appreciate it if you'd let me know if I've misunderstood something. Thanks a ton for the help.

csidle fucked around with this message at 14:35 on Nov 5, 2014

Flipperwaldt
Nov 11, 2011

Won't somebody think of the starving hamsters in China?



csidle posted:

I'm thinking of purchasing this to replace my mSATA. Will it slot right into the same connectors as my mSATA is on, or will I need to buy some sort of adapter?
http://www.bj-trading.dk/bjshop/default.asp?pv=MZ-7TE250BW&pn=SAMSUNG&vare=924971&f=edbp (Danish site)

e: Looks like it says that it's delivered with a SATA-600 interface, so I guess it's ok. I've ordered it now, but of course I'd appreciate it if you'd let me know if I've misunderstood something. Thanks a ton for the help.
The drive you linked is suitable to replace your regular harddrive.

This is a regular sized SATA SSD with an mSATA drive lying on top of it, for size and connector comparison:

Geoj
May 28, 2008

BITTER POOR PERSON

Chuu posted:

Thinking about buying an Intel Phi to play around with while the $199 developer promo is still around. The problem is I have no idea how to cool them in a standard PC case. They look like this:



They are basically a giant shroud around a setup that looks an awfully like a video card. Just like a video card, they have to be actively cooled, but they don't integrate a blower and rely on server integrators to handle cooling. It's a 225W TDP for reference.

How would I go about cooling this in a standard PC case?

I don't even know how OEMs would go about cooling that, the typical off the shelf server uses a single large fan pulling air through a plastic baffle that forces airflow through the CPU heatsink and over other critical components. Maybe remove the shroud and attach/point a fan to/at its heatsink?

emdash
Oct 19, 2003

and?
what's the current hotness in Motorola cable modems? I have an SB6120 but I just learned this morning that it now seems to be a bottleneck. SB6180 or 6141? or does it matter?

Thanks SWSP!

emdash fucked around with this message at 16:08 on Nov 5, 2014

Star War Sex Parrot
Oct 2, 2003

TheQat posted:

what's the current hotness in Motorola cable modems? I have an SB6120 but I just learned this morning that it now seems to be a bottleneck. SB6180 or 6141? or does it matter?
6141. 6183 is the new hotness but still very hard to find.

Papercut
Aug 24, 2005

The quickest substitution in the history of the NBA

Papercut posted:

I pulled this hard drive out of my laptop that died like 10 years ago. I want to try to pull the data off of it, if there's anything left.

The form factor for the pins doesn't match the ATA cables I have. It looks like the same pinout but a smaller form factor. How do I hook this up to my PC? This is my motherboard if that makes much difference.

What the chances the drive will have retained anything?

So I got all of the pieces to hook this up, it's correctly recognized in BIOS and I have the correct boot order, but Windows hangs on startup. I can hear the old drive spinning, but then it gives a little "thinking" sounds and then rhythmically clicks. Basically, whirrrr-thinking-click-click-click, pause, click-click, pause, click-click-click etc.

It's hosed, yeah?

Geemer
Nov 4, 2010



Papercut posted:

It's hosed, yeah?

Pretty much. Though you could give the freezer trick a shot. You're down the rabbit hole already, so might as well go whole hog.
Remember that if the freezer trick works, you have pretty much that one shot at getting anything off it. It might not work again.

Kin
Nov 4, 2003

Sometimes, in a city this dirty, you need a real hero.
edit: God damnit.

Trust the problem to fix itself right after i post about it.

Kin fucked around with this message at 21:21 on Nov 5, 2014

Papercut
Aug 24, 2005

The quickest substitution in the history of the NBA

Geemer posted:

Pretty much. Though you could give the freezer trick a shot. You're down the rabbit hole already, so might as well go whole hog.
Remember that if the freezer trick works, you have pretty much that one shot at getting anything off it. It might not work again.

Yeah gonna try that with very low expectations.

Rexxed
May 1, 2010

Dis is amazing!
I gotta try dis!

Papercut posted:

Yeah gonna try that with very low expectations.

I did the freezer trick with a dying drive a couple of months back. It worked alright. All disks are different but I got maybe 90% of the files off just doing a blind copy of everything with the Roadkil's Unstoppable copier (trying to use windows file copy caused the disk to unmount or other weirdness):
http://www.roadkil.net/program.php/P29/Unstoppable%20Copier

Chuu
Sep 11, 2004

Grimey Drawer

Geoj posted:

I don't even know how OEMs would go about cooling that, the typical off the shelf server uses a single large fan pulling air through a plastic baffle that forces airflow through the CPU heatsink and over other critical components. Maybe remove the shroud and attach/point a fan to/at its heatsink?

I think it's pretty much this. Supermicro has some chassis that they recommend for the Phi that have arrays of fans pointing directly at the card. Best picture I could find of that sort of setup was this.

Intel does make an actively cooled version of the card with a blower, and not surprisingly that is the version I see in the huge majority of pictures. Why they chose to give the passively cooled version to devs to play around with is a mystery.

Gromit
Aug 15, 2000

I am an oppressed White Male, Asian women wont serve me! Save me Campbell Newman!!!!!!!

Papercut posted:

So I got all of the pieces to hook this up, it's correctly recognized in BIOS and I have the correct boot order, but Windows hangs on startup. I can hear the old drive spinning, but then it gives a little "thinking" sounds and then rhythmically clicks. Basically, whirrrr-thinking-click-click-click, pause, click-click, pause, click-click-click etc.

It's hosed, yeah?

So you are hooking this drive up as a slave to your existing system, and it's preventing it from booting into Windows? Or have you hooked this drive up solo and are trying to boot from it? You'd be doing the former, ideally.

I'd gladly hook that drive up to my recovery hardware if you can get it to me in Australia, but I'm going to assume you live elsewhere.

Papercut
Aug 24, 2005

The quickest substitution in the history of the NBA

Gromit posted:

So you are hooking this drive up as a slave to your existing system, and it's preventing it from booting into Windows? Or have you hooked this drive up solo and are trying to boot from it? You'd be doing the former, ideally.

I'd gladly hook that drive up to my recovery hardware if you can get it to me in Australia, but I'm going to assume you live elsewhere.

Yeah it's hooked up as a slave, not trying to boot from it. I tried different master/slave and jumper configurations, same result with all of them.

And thanks for the offer! But yeah, not really worth it to ship halfway around the world just to see if I can recover any of my photos or papers from college.

Gromit
Aug 15, 2000

I am an oppressed White Male, Asian women wont serve me! Save me Campbell Newman!!!!!!!
You could try booting into a live unix CD environment of some sort and see if it will read. Sometimes you get better luck with those than with Windows.

McGlockenshire
Dec 16, 2005

GOLLOCKS!

Star War Sex Parrot posted:

6141. 6183 is the new hotness but still very hard to find.

Please take note that the blue LEDs on the 6141 are stupidly bright, and the network activity one blinks way slower than normal network lamps. You do not want this thing in a dark room that you want to keep dark.

There's a guide to modifying the hardware to help dim things, but I lack the required Torx screwdriver to try it out myself. For now I've put five or six layers of masking tape on the front, but there's a tremendous amount of light leaking out of the vent holes.

wafflemoose
Apr 10, 2009

I've got a tough/possibly stupid one for you guys. My sister's computer, which was one of my old gaming pcs that I put together myself, suddenly stopped working. When you try to turn it on, the fans move just a little bit and shuts off, it does not boot. Sis says some water might have gotten into the power supply because the computer was sitting next to a humidifier (she isn't very bright when it comes to taking care of computers) and might have shorted it out. I tried swapping out the power supply with a new one, but got the same result. The motherboard does show a green led light when using either power supply. The only other thing I could think of is that the liquid cooler system (Corsair H60) failed and leaked out somehow. I had to resort to plan B and transplant her drives into the first budget computer I built back in 2011, she won't flunk her college classes now she has a working rig.

Do you guys think the motherboard, cpu and ram are toast? How do I check which part is at fault? Did I also mention my sister is a moron and I had to drive 400 miles up to Georgia to this? :suicide:

Factory Factory
Mar 19, 2010

This is what
Arcane Velocity was like.
On a new build, that's often a sign of forgetting to plug in a power cable (usually a graphics card plug or the EPS12V/ATX12V connector) or, sometimes, the CPU fan being disconnected. It's also something that happens when the board detects a short, e.g. installed against the case without stand-offs. Of these, I'd guess the short is more likely the problem, what with the humidifier and all.

wafflemoose
Apr 10, 2009

My sister said she left it on, went to get something to eat, and it was dead when she came back. Sounds like it's a short then, guess it's motherboard replacing time. :sigh:

I think I'm going to stuck with budget builds for her, she's a klutz with computers. To compare, she's gone through 3 laptops while my old HP530 laptop is just now starting to fall apart.

It's a shame really, that PC had a Phemon II X4 955, a Radeon HD6850 and 16GB of RAM, it was a beast until Wolfenstien: The New Order proved to be too much for it, I figured it's be good for an art student.

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NmareBfly
Jul 16, 2004

I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!


I'm having power supply problems. Couple questions. Here's the hardware. The 12 volt rail seems to be dropping to something like 10.5 occasionally, which I noticed when it decided to start rebooting every time I run a game that needs the video card. If I leave the PC off for a while and then turn it back on it'll be a steady 12 for a few hours but start to drop slowly (overheating, maybe? temps look good but there isn't one in the PSU itself.)

Thing is, this happened before, a little less than a year ago. At the time I assumed I had just gotten a bum power supply and replaced it with an identical one. Now it's doing exactly the same thing the first one did so I figure there must be a cause. Should I:

- Just get a higher rated PSU? Is 550 not enough for that amount of load? If this is the case, are modular power supplies standard in any way? IE, am I going to have to re-cable everything or can I get another one (even from the same manufacturer) and just yank the old one then plug the same cables in?

- Investigate whether or not there's (some cause) that I'm not really sure how to ID? Bad / inconsistent power coming from the wall? Bad grounding? I have a pretty beefy UPS that theoretically does some amount of power filtering, but if there's something I can check on that end without a huge amount of specialty equipment I could certainly do so. Is there anything internal in the PC itself that might cause a power supply to degrade unusually fast over time?

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