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##Vote E. State-Controlled Trade Unions. Somebody invent socialism already!
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  Filiz I Qutuzid With war looming on the horizon, such noble ideals as equality must be put aside for the moment to focus on more important matters. Our workers toil day and night to bring weapons and armour into the Byzantine war-machine, so what can we do but repay them for their work? By giving them a voice with which they can tell us of their fears and woes we will be able to bring them peace of mind, and in the end only strengthen the industrial wheels upon which our army relies. E. State-controlled Trade Unions Luhood fucked around with this message at 10:07 on Jan 23, 2015 |
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##Vote A. Universal Vote Franchise If our boys shall bleed then let 'em have their voice heard.
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##Vote F. Secret Ballot Political Parties What a world we live in! The ravenous and frothing hordes of revolution seek to devour everything, everything, and the common man has no defense against their radicalism! Tradition is destroyed, faith disregarded, mocked, and all the accomplishments of the past are thrown away! I weep for Europe, where ideologies wage war: both of them wrong! In this Republic, therefore, I will see the innocent protected, and give common man the tools and power to collar the revolutionary beast. I firmly believe, like all the Cyrahzaxes before me, that only one thing can save Europe: Rome! Not the pretenders in Russia, Da Qin and Germany, not the decadent monarchy of the accursed Yaroslavoviches or any other dynasty, but a State with history, dignity, and power! One to dissolve the feuding masses of Europe, to make one people, finally ready to truly challenge the world! So, let the Romans come forth, let them vote, and let our destiny be unimpeded by the thugs of the hiratine! Lord Cyrahzax fucked around with this message at 16:38 on Nov 6, 2014 |
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Jimmy4400nav posted:##Vote C. Proportional Voting System Lord Cyrahzax posted:##Vote F. Secret Ballot Political Parties My dear Cyrahzax, while I do agree secret ballots can be quite useful, I feel if you truly wish to collar this beast, voting for proportional representation might better serve that goal. While "more" democracy might seem paradoxical, it will ensure the more moderate and concerned voices will be heard. Imagine if in the past, the noble Unitas, which your family so strongly advocated, had a voice in government that had to be heard, not simply brushed aside? Where would our noble nation be had we been forced to heed the words of your fore-bearers? We cannot undo the past, but we can ensure the future is forced to listen to wisdom, wherever it may come by. Jimmy4400nav fucked around with this message at 18:04 on Nov 6, 2014 |
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##Vote E. State-Controlled Trade Unions. Not only will this measure provide our laboring citizens with additional forms of representation, it should aid our bureaucracy in keeping track of our economy and increasing its efficiency in surpassing the Valois menace.
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##Vote E. State-Controlled Trade Unions. As important as fair representation is, we can address those concerns after French people have stopped trying to kill us.
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Jimmy4400nav posted:My dear Cyrahzax, while I do agree secret ballots can be quite useful, I feel if you truly wish to collar this beast, voting for proportional representation might better serve that goal. While "more" democracy might seem paradoxical, it will ensure the more moderate and concerned voices will be heard. Imagine if in the past, the noble Unitas, which your family so strongly advocated, had a voice in government that had to be heard, not simply brushed aside? Where would our noble nation be had we been forced to heed the words of your fore-bearers? We cannot undo the past, but we can ensure the future is forced to listen to wisdom, wherever it may come by. In principle, I agree. In reality, though, I could not trust even a proportional ballot that could not be made in discretion. No matter how many can vote, a blood-crazed Junonian will still be leering over every shoulder, yes? These things must come, but in a proper and safe order.
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##Vote E. State-Controlled Trade Unions.Tulip posted:Are there really more Catholics than Orthodox in the Republic? And are Julians and Junonians supposed to have the same color? Well, considering that it seems that the most populous part of the Republic being Italy (~40% identify as Italian of some sort) it's probably not much of a surprise given that Greece and Anatolia seem to have suffered a lot in comparison to Italy. Although one can argue that Italy should be a bit more Orthodox given that it's a significant power base of Byzantium in the late middle ages onwards. That said I do look forward to seeing how those demographics change. (Now I'm wondering what it's like to be a border guard in Anatolia in ByzLP. There must be a lot of skirmishes there to make life interesting!)
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##Vote F. Secret Ballots. Just the other day I was out voting in a local election and a local magistros dared to look over my soldier as I cast my ballot!
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WilliamAnderson posted:##Vote E. State-Controlled Trade Unions Yes, a Union of Romans, all united under a true and proper emperor. I like the way you think. As for my own vote, I abstain. Unitas shall not legitimize the corrupt and bloodthirsty Byzantine Republic by participating. Though I do appreciate the thoughts of my dear colleague as always, and hold no I'll will towards him for doing so. Onwards!
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sniper4625 posted:Yes, a Union of Romans, all united under a true and proper emperor. I like the way you think. Bravo. Though our methods differ, our ends are the same: Rome has not fallen, no matter what these hiratine-mad murderous fanatics would wish to claim. Rome will never die, and she shall always have her defenders. Forward the restoration of Rome!
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##Vote B - Upper House by Population Bah! Bah and humbug to you all! You who say you hate the douxes, that waged countless campaigns to end their tyranny - and let them continue to abuse our fair state simply because they put on a mask! Someone must stand against them.
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Coward posted:Not knowing how this game works, has China been overly crippled? Or was the narrative of China being the puissant centre of all that I had in my head not actually correct? China has been set up to have some severe early game difficulties to slow it down, but ones it can easily recover from once it promotes more POPs back to soldiers. GSD posted:So how much autonomy do our sister-republics have? They're puppets, but are they strictly held to a byzantine party line, or are their elections relatively free, with governments relatively autonomous as long as they remain good allies and sufficiently revolutionary and etc? They have some autonomy-- they hold their own elections, have their own little national assemblies and presidents, and local customs are being respected a lot more than they were under Da Qin or wherever. Let's not mince words, though-- they're still basically still imperial possessions, and tons of Persians and Azerbaijanis are about to go be sent off to gruesome deaths fighting the French for little to no material gain for their own nations.
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