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Relatively obsolete though, as almost all airplanes use minijack for the IFE now anyway
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Pudgygiant posted:Relatively obsolete though, as almost all airplanes use minijack for the IFE now anyway You must fly on all the fancy airlines. In the past year I have been on a hundred hours or more in planes where those little adapters were a godsend and allowed me to use my own headphones on long haul flights.
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Nov 9, 2014 06:22
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I pretty much exclusively fly Star Alliance or Emirates internationally. The only time I've seen them on an international flight was on Aeroflot but that was easily not my biggest complaint about that flight. No meals between LAX and Moscow on the other hand... Domestic, yeah, every so often, but I'm ok with not watching Sleepless In Seattle on a 12" CRT in TYOOL 2014.
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Nov 9, 2014 06:34
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In flight movies are still a thing? Seems like it would be much cheaper and better to just put in a cheap android device and license Netflix. I guess maybe support it as a legacy solution until you can upgrade, but there is no reason to use some overpriced proprietary system in 2014.
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Nov 9, 2014 07:31
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It's been about a year since I've flown, but I've heard that on some carriers they've done exactly that, axed the headrest tvs for rent-able tablets.
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Nov 9, 2014 07:49
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Pudgygiant posted:Relatively obsolete though, as almost all airplanes use minijack for the IFE now anyway You just reminded me that the very first international flight I remember as a child had those headphones that were just hollow tubes, like these here. I distinctly remember them being truly painful to wear.
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Nov 9, 2014 07:53
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Konstantin posted:In flight movies are still a thing? Seems like it would be much cheaper and better to just put in a cheap android device and license Netflix. I guess maybe support it as a legacy solution until you can upgrade, but there is no reason to use some overpriced proprietary system in 2014. http://www.qantas.com.au/travel/airlines/inflight-entertainment/global/en
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Nov 9, 2014 07:55
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Der Luftwaffle posted:It's been about a year since I've flown, but I've heard that on some carriers they've done exactly that, axed the headrest tvs for rent-able tablets. I flew just a couple weeks ago, and United even has an app now that will let you watch from your own device. It's very smart. The built-in entertainment systems are hugely expensive, because of the infrastructure and flight certification requirements. Once you get through with all of that, the cost of building in seatback screens to a passenger jet averages out to nearly $1000 per inch per screen.
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Nov 9, 2014 07:56
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Konstantin posted:In flight movies are still a thing? Seems like it would be much cheaper and better to just put in a cheap android device and license Netflix. I guess maybe support it as a legacy solution until you can upgrade, but there is no reason to use some overpriced proprietary system in 2014. Modern airplanes use a proprietary system where you pick a movie or show off a list and watch it in the headrest in front of you. For a while the double-plug was retained so they could sell headsets, but that's been going away for a while now. As for being overpriced, a cheap android device and Netflix license would be required for every seat and then require an air-to-ground datalink capable of sustaining bandwidth for up to 660 simultaneous streams on a 747. Also, this assumes that Netflix allows commercial usage without paying through the nose (I haven't read the TOS but probably not) and the android devices would probably need to be swapped out continuously because they aren't designed for continuous commercial use on an airplane, and if they are then we're back to proprietary commercial devices. Its the same reason hotels have weird proprietary TV systems: because its cheaper to have one cable-box per channel than one cable-box per room. (Oh, and airlines usually want a movie list that doesn't have tits in it so they don't have parents complaining about the guy next to their toddler watching Orange Is The New Black or Spartacus.)
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Nov 9, 2014 08:08
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Gromit posted:You just reminded me that the very first international flight I remember as a child had those headphones that were just hollow tubes, like these here. Those aren't obsolete. Well, those are, but the mechanism isn't. It's possible to do with no metal, so it's used for things like patient headsets in MRI machines.
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Nov 9, 2014 08:13
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Virgin Australia now has local Wi-Fi on the plane and an iDevice/Android app you download before the flight that connects to it and you watch the shows and listen to the music over that. It works really, really well.
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Nov 9, 2014 09:02
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Heh, I've only ever been on 6-8 hour flights tops, but those all still had the dual jacks. Last time I was seated near the back, and the in-flight instructions and movie were on drat hi8 tapes. Whoever has to transfer the latest romcom to hi8 probably smiles bemusedly, while absurdly overcharging them for sticking to technology from like 30 years ago.
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Nov 9, 2014 09:42
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Cat Hatter posted:As for being overpriced, a cheap android device and Netflix license would be required for every seat and then require an air-to-ground datalink capable of sustaining bandwidth for up to 660 simultaneous streams on a 747. On some of the longer qantas flights, you can rent a modified ipad that alleges it won't work outside the plane. It connects to a fileserver inside the plane and streams content. They were letting you do this for around a year before they started letting you leave your electronic devices on during takeoff. If there is a god, obsolete technology soon: aeroplane mode.
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Nov 9, 2014 13:01
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Cat Hatter posted:(Oh, and airlines usually want a movie list that doesn't have tits in it so they don't have parents complaining about the guy next to their toddler watching Orange Is The New Black or Spartacus.) Maybe this is a mostly American thing because I distinctly remember watching The Devil's Advocate on a Singapore Airlines flight to Australia in 1997 and it was completely uncut as far as I know (it was through the in-seat system though). Tangentially related to the thread, but I was in Singapore about a month ago and I found it kind of weird that digital TV is not really A Thing in that country. Sure, they're currently making the switchover now (albeit very slowly) but it was kind of odd seeing so many HDTVs tuned in to analog broadcasts at the places I was staying. mrkillboy has a new favorite as of 13:28 on Nov 9, 2014 |
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Nov 9, 2014 13:20
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mrkillboy posted:Maybe this is a mostly American thing because I distinctly remember watching The Devil's Advocate on a Singapore Airlines flight to Australia in 1997 and it was completely uncut as far as I know (it was through the in-seat system though). I also have seen films with tits on singapore airlines flights. The SA in seat systems use a privacy screen so you can't see your neighbors screens, but it's not good enough to stop yous seeing the screens of the people in the row in front of you.
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Nov 9, 2014 13:40
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Sir_Substance posted:If there is a god, obsolete technology soon: aeroplane mode. Airplane mode will stick around. In future when your kids ask why the 'turn off all radios' symbol is an airplane you'll get to tell stories. Ditto about the save symbol.
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Nov 9, 2014 13:56
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Yeah the BA flight we were on recently's seatscreens have some sort of lenticular cover or plastic so you can't even see what's on them from any angle other than 'right in front of you'.
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Nov 9, 2014 13:56
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Boiled Water posted:Ditto about the save symbol. I already have students who were completely baffled by the use of the floppy disc symbol for saving. They had no idea what it was.
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Nov 9, 2014 15:00
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mrkillboy posted:Maybe this is a mostly American thing It is, American censorship hits sex/nudity much harder than it hits violence. (I know many other countries are the other way around.)
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Nov 9, 2014 19:23
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Dirk Squarejaw posted:I already have students who were completely baffled by the use of the floppy disc symbol for saving. They had no idea what it was. Has there been any effort to change that recently? I mean...in theory, it doesn't matter what the icon is, so long as it's universal and everyone knows it, but it is weird...it'd be like the symbol for "play" on a music app/stereo being a little image of a record player with a needle going down on it, or something, instead of an arrow/triangle.
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Nov 9, 2014 20:32
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I've see some programs where the save icon is an arrow going into a stylized hard drive, but even that may be anachronistic as mechanical hard drives will probably be suitable for this thread in a couple of years.
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Nov 9, 2014 20:49
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Collateral Damage posted:I've see some programs where the save icon is an arrow going into a stylized hard drive, but even that may be anachronistic as mechanical hard drives will probably be suitable for this thread in a couple of years. I don't know what's wrong with just writing "save" on the button, there's nothing worse than trying to guess what the gently caress that little 25x25 scribble is supposed to represent.
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Collateral Damage posted:I've see some programs where the save icon is an arrow going into a stylized hard drive, but even that may be anachronistic as mechanical hard drives will probably be suitable for this thread in a couple of years.
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Pham Nuwen posted:I don't know what's wrong with just writing "save" on the button, there's nothing worse than trying to guess what the gently caress that little 25x25 scribble is supposed to represent. It's hard to pick out one textual button among lots of other textual buttons. Tooltips are the correct solution to the problem you are having.
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Sham bam bamina! posted:The cells in solid-state drives lose data over time and with rewrites, This part is true, but you are giving it the Fox News treatment by leaving out the " but its not a problem at all, as it would take decades of constant IE: 100% maxed out usage for you to ever reach that point"
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Pham Nuwen posted:I don't know what's wrong with just writing "save" on the button, there's nothing worse than trying to guess what the gently caress that little 25x25 scribble is supposed to represent. It works fine in the world where everyone is american and speaks gods favorite language.
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Boiled Water posted:It works fine in the world where everyone is american and speaks gods favorite language. Localization is a thing, and changing "save" to the appropriate Spanish word is the easiest part, a hell of a lot easier than translating the documentation.
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Johnny Aztec posted:This part is true, but you are giving it the Fox News treatment by leaving out the " but its not a problem at all, as it would take decades of constant IE: 100% maxed out usage for you to ever reach that point" Not the same thing. The cells can wear out through use, but you're right that this is unlikely to be a problem. They can also lose enough charge to make it impossible to read them, which is a perfectly real problem if you're going to let an SSD sit unpowered for a long while. HP has a document here on the reliability and endurance of their enterprise SSDs, where they say this: quote:The data retention period of an SSD is actually greater when you operate the SSD at higher operating temperatures while it is in service and store it at lower temperatures once you remove it from service. That's for storage after you've worn the cells down to the ragged end of their lives, though; probably not applicable for backup/storage drives. edit: Dell says this: quote:6. I have unplugged my SSD drive and put it into storage. How long can I expect the drive Computer viking has a new favorite as of 23:50 on Nov 9, 2014 |
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Well, yes you can't leave SSDs unplugged near as long as magnetic drives. I've plugged in 20 year old PCs and still has the same hdd in it kicking. I was thinking he was referring more to that anti SSD talking point about how you can wear one out with write/rewrite cycles(which is so much data/time that you are very very very likely to never see it).
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Pham Nuwen posted:Localization is a thing, and changing "save" to the appropriate Spanish word is the easiest part, a hell of a lot easier than translating the documentation. I used a Mexican copy of Word a few years back and everything was translated. Guardar for save, Imprimir for print etc. Threw me off because the shortcuts were also different, so ctrl-g saved for example. Combined with the weird keyboard layout it really threw me off.
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Goldskull posted:Yeah the BA flight we were on recently's seatscreens have some sort of lenticular cover or plastic so you can't even see what's on them from any angle other than 'right in front of you'. As the other guy said, they usually do allow you to see the screen in the row in front of you and one seat left or right. Caught some super  -looking dude listening to Metallica on my last flight.The BA system is pretty neat, I have to admit. I usually have my laptop on the longer flights but when they bring out the food, it's nice to have a decent selection of movies and TV shows to watch. Speaking of which, I did watch the first episode of The Knick that, doesn't that have boobs in it?
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I've never flown (hence why I didn't recognise the headphone jack), but Airplane Mode is still useful for some cases (sometimes to force my phone to cycle the wifi or bluetooth).
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I used to use Airplane mode as a handy do not disturb mode (before it came built in) or an emergency battery saver.
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Johnny Aztec posted:I was thinking he was referring more to that anti SSD talking point about how you can wear one out with write/rewrite cycles(which is so much data/time that you are very very very likely to never see it). Sham bam bamina! has a new favorite as of 08:27 on Nov 10, 2014 |
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Ron Burgundy posted:Virgin Australia now has local Wi-Fi on the plane and an iDevice/Android app you download before the flight that connects to it and you watch the shows and listen to the music over that. It works really, really well. Norwegian also uses streaming on flights which you can access on your own mobile devices.
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Well, you are right. There have been some issues even with the high end models, however it was fixed with a firmware update. The magnetic platter of IDE/SATA drives is a pretty mature technology. look at the difference in drives between 2000 and 2010, let alone from 1980 to 2000. I would like to see where SSDs stand in 10 years.
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Just look at how far SSDs have come in the past couple of years. Five years ago consumer solid state drives were basically nonexistent. Three years ago fragmentation and cell wear was an actual issue. Give it five more years and I'm pretty sure we'll be talking about HDDs in this thread.
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I use Airplane mode when I go into a foreign country to avoid roaming fees.
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Cat Hatter posted:(Oh, and airlines usually want a movie list that doesn't have tits in it so they don't have parents complaining about the guy next to their toddler watching Orange Is The New Black or Spartacus.) I watched Pain and Gain 100% uncut on a Delta domestic flight. No age verification or anything. It also had Mandarin hard-subs so it was really weird.
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I wish in-flight entertainment systems weren't so drat slow to respond to input. It's been like this on most every airline I've flown. Most recently was Aer Lingus, their system had about a 2-second lag between when you touched the screen and when anything actually happened. I assume it's because only a few companies can deal with getting everything approved for in-flight use, so software quality goes to poo poo.
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