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a cyborg mug
Mar 8, 2010



Babby Sathanas posted:

FLA are replacing VNV turns out.

[edit]

Waah

Anyway is that the most stacked tour ever or what? So sad I can't show up to one.
Speaking of FLA, y'all seen clips from the part-orchestral shows they did? Like these ones: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_ZsvRw9uGE, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhuqBCWBV0E Utterly amazing, they need to release proper recordings of this so badly.

Someone from FLA said on FLA's Facebook that it's not happening because it would've been too expensive and too difficult to record the show properly. Makes sense, a couple of years back there was the whole thing with the recordings of the classical shows with VNV Nation and Blutengel turning out unusable. Blutengel just decided to do their own afterwards, and I think VNV Nation were going to make one as well? Who knows, maybe FLA'll join them at some point. Would be hella sweet.

Also: goddamn you lucky motherfuckers

edit: I'd probably pay anything to see a Gothik Meets Klassik Project Pitchfork show

a cyborg mug fucked around with this message at 21:44 on Nov 7, 2014

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mennoknight
Nov 24, 2003

I WILL JUST EAT ONE MORE SANDWICH
OH MY HEAD EXPLORDED I'M JAY FATSTER
http://www.cafepress.ca/cp/customize/product2.aspx?from=CustomDesigner&number=1427368441

everyone buy this who is going to the concert and wear it to the concert and yell "YOU'RE OLD"

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
I so bet VNV Nation didn't like playing second fiddle.

sethsez
Jul 14, 2006

He's soooo dreamy...

Holy poo poo, talk about trading up.

TOOT BOOT
May 25, 2010

Haha, everyone on Litany seems to despise FLA so this should be fun. I'm kinda bummed this tour isn't coming anywhere near me now.

SacrificialGoat
Oct 8, 2003

Catjaw is a hero of the people
Squeeeeee. I don't think there could be a better lineup, and that's what I said even before the VNV change.

Wizchine
Sep 17, 2007

Television is the retina
of the mind's eye.
Hmm, Pomona isn't THAT far away, so maybe I will go to that show after all. I missed Skinny Puppy last year for the first time since I started following them. (A baby sort of monopolizes your life....)

sethsez
Jul 14, 2006

He's soooo dreamy...

cEvin just posted "now this makes alot more sense! thanks vnv"

Definitely sounds like there was some bad blood happening there.

Twiin
Nov 11, 2003

King of Suck!
I AM SO loving PSYCHED

Danger - Octopus!
Apr 20, 2008


Nap Ghost

CAT rear end now!!! posted:


edit: I'd probably pay anything to see a Gothik Meets Klassik Project Pitchfork show

Argh gently caress this is so good http://youtu.be/D8ylKlEUK-E (Solitary Experiments)

ZoltarOmniscient
Jan 17, 2013
The more I hear about the tour, the more bummed I get about being broke and living in NB.

Edit: On the plus side, I filled out the contact form on the Haujobb the other day about an interview, and from what their booker replied with, it's looking like I have an interview with them on my show after the tour's done.

ZoltarOmniscient fucked around with this message at 05:06 on Nov 9, 2014

Notgothic
May 24, 2003

Thanks for the input, Jeff!

ZoltarOmniscient posted:

The more I hear about the tour, the more bummed I get about being broke and living in NB.

Conversely, I really did get a job at EXACTLY the right time.

Man, I am roughly 4x as hyped for Montreal now, it'll be like a mini-Kinetik.

magiccarpet
Jan 3, 2005




Noisey write up on High Functioning Flesh, and also the general rise of new industrial.

http://noisey.vice.com/blog/high-functioning-flesh

However, HFF sounds super dated. They're compared to Youth Code a lot in the article, but those guys are on a whole different level.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
I like HFF, but when Vice start talking about "the scene" and how "they made it cool to step into this space" I start to feel old. There's a civil war going on in industrial maaaan. For these critics, I'm just confused by it all. The music is not as important as how the music allows the listener or the writer to project an image of themselves through listening to it, which my autistic brain thinks is very weird.

a cyborg mug
Mar 8, 2010



TOOT BOOT posted:

Haha, everyone on Litany seems to despise FLA

But why

sethsez
Jul 14, 2006

He's soooo dreamy...


FLA seems to have one tempo, a couple bassline variations, a single song structure, not much in the way of dynamics, and the dumbest lyrics. When I'm in the mood for FLA it somehow all works beautifully (Leeb really knows how to play within his very strict boundaries), but when I'm not it all just sounds like the same ingredients fighting for space over and over, like the Taco Bell of industrial music.

I say this as someone who's got every mainline album they've put out and has no intention of stopping any time soon.

a cyborg mug
Mar 8, 2010



sethsez posted:

FLA seems to have one tempo, a couple bassline variations, a single song structure, not much in the way of dynamics, and the dumbest lyrics. When I'm in the mood for FLA it somehow all works beautifully (Leeb really knows how to play within his very strict boundaries), but when I'm not it all just sounds like the same ingredients fighting for space over and over, like the Taco Bell of industrial music.

I say this as someone who's got every mainline album they've put out and has no intention of stopping any time soon.

Are you sure you aren't talking about KMFDM? FLA has put out some wildly different albums in the last couple of years.

edit: Also better than Skinny Puppy's latest albums (which are also good)

edit2: I won't argue about the dumb lyrics though

a cyborg mug fucked around with this message at 20:54 on Nov 9, 2014

sethsez
Jul 14, 2006

He's soooo dreamy...

CAT rear end now!!! posted:

Are you sure you aren't talking about KMFDM? FLA has put out some wildly different albums in the last couple of years.

edit: Also better than Skinny Puppy's latest albums (which are also good)

edit2: I won't argue about the dumb lyrics though

I had actually written "FLA is basically where KMFDM would be if Sascha hadn't forgotten everything he knew about how to make music" but deleted it because comparing anyone to KMFDM at this point just feels mean.

boo_radley
Dec 30, 2005

Politeness costs nothing
neodustrial albums you say?

C.3.3. is a personal project from Paul Jamrozy co-founder of original industrial agitators Test Dept. The work is inspired by the real life experience of Her Majesty’s Prison Reading. Tracing the history of the location through to the present current political and social situation, evoking the harsh realities of Victorian and modern day Britain.

The title C.3.3. is drawn from the cell number where the literary figure Oscar Wilde was incarcerated in Reading Gaol under gross indecency charges. C.3.3. was the pseudonym used for the publication ‘The Ballad of Reading Gaol’ a poem based on the execution of a fellow inmate.

mennoknight
Nov 24, 2003

I WILL JUST EAT ONE MORE SANDWICH
OH MY HEAD EXPLORDED I'M JAY FATSTER

"Murder's coherent, volatile spleen."

Alliance of Sound or whatever it's called was going to be my favourite band when I was 15 (Puppy), 18 (haujobb) and say, 20-25 (vnv). Now it's those first two and guys who are 60 that we used to drive around and play fake air guitar to.

Entropist
Dec 1, 2007
I'm very stupid.
I was at a FLA show last year and it was pretty diverse... There was latest album wubstep, everyone dancing to Plasticity, some old stuff, and noisy interludes.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
Nicki Minaj? Or Nachtmahr?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BU769XX_dIQ

a cyborg mug
Mar 8, 2010



Blutengel's fall 2015 tour happens to start when I start my exchange semester in Leipzig :getin:


bad

deong
Jun 13, 2001

I'll see you in heck!
So, I really like Einstürzende Neubauten Sabrina. What is a good album to listen through. I've always known of them, but never really listened to it.

Molestationary Store
May 21, 2007

Pretty certain Halber Mensch is the default go to EN album but I'm sure somebody else can and will throw up a big ol' list of worthwhile stuff of theirs.

sethsez
Jul 14, 2006

He's soooo dreamy...

deong posted:

So, I really like Einstürzende Neubauten Sabrina. What is a good album to listen through. I've always known of them, but never really listened to it.

If you like Sabrina you might as well listen to the album it's from, Silence is Sexy, which is one of their absolute best.

Quirk
Oct 11, 2004

You might surprise yourself.

mennoknight posted:

Attak being someone's teenage nostalgia makes me feel older than En Esch. Just gonna crank Cum and be like, oooooooh that's good

Attak was when I was in 10th grade, I still remember freshman year before in the computer lab, reading the open positions Sascha posted on the kmfdm site after he announced they were officially back.

david_a posted:

It could be that after a certain dose of their albums, no matter where you start, you reach your maximum lifetime limit of KMFDM and lose interest in them. I think I hit my limit with ADIOS.

I agree with sethsez that NIHIL is by far the best album. I don't know if it's Raymond's influence or what, but it's not nearly as sterile sounding as NAIVE or ANGST. XTORT seemed to go back to a bit of a drier sound.

There's something about Nihil that you can't nail one specific element it just all comes together just so well. I actually like it quite a bit more now than when I first heard it years ago. I remember reading somewhere that XTORT was started with the scraps left over from Nihil, but I like XTORT way more. Nihil seems like a polished containment of everything an album called "Nihil" should encompass, but I love XTORT more because it sounds like that containment is starting to unravel, see Dogma, Son of a Gun.

I think the "best" KMFDM album if you have to give the gold stamp to one has to be Symbols. Ironically that was the album that made Sascha want to stop KMFDM to begin with if memory serves. There was enough atmospheric and different ideas that the album leaves you feeling like it was made by a band, a great band of people that tried really hard to make something that sounded different. Talking to alot of people from that scene and era, the 90s were really the last time the genre made an attempt to "push the boat out" before the genre really got too comfortable and started taking itself for granted with the by-the-numbers sound and imagery

Pope Guilty posted:

Hey, grats, man! Good to see you doing well. Any news on your album? What you released ruled and then we stopped hearing about it.

Thank you! I wouldn't say well exactly but much better, trying to stay on medications :holy:. There is no creativity in Alaska and I spent summer in a garage attempting to do vocals again but it was a nightmare trying to make art around a bunch of DJs who know nothing about actually recording music so I'm going to bite the bullet and get a kickstarter ready for right after the holidays. Once I can afford to scream where there's no noise complaints and a computer that can handle more than one layer of instruments at a time I'm bolting like Sonic to the finish line and getting this fucker out of my head and onto a CD.

I uploaded a collection of songs on youtube as a proto-demo album with a really bad vocal take at the end. These are tracks that I got a little help from Dean Garcia on and stuff I did while being present while WTF?! was coming together. KMFDM thinks it has promise and it's very very slowly starting to come together as a whole:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLvnIc1GMNE

When it's done it will be called Hyper-Violent Porno Cartoon. This will be the tracklist and it will be my favorite industrial rock album ever:

01 You Will Know My Name
02 gently caress Kill Burn
03 Wiegenlied
04 The Prettiest Color
05 I Want Out
06 Love Me gently caress Me Hate Me Rape Me
07 IDGAF
08 A Special Hell Awaits People Like You
09 La<3nder
10 First Storys End

deong
Jun 13, 2001

I'll see you in heck!

sethsez posted:

If you like Sabrina you might as well listen to the album it's from, Silence is Sexy, which is one of their absolute best.

The Singing Chav posted:

Pretty certain Halber Mensch is the default go to EN album but I'm sure somebody else can and will throw up a big ol' list of worthwhile stuff of theirs.

Thanks, I'll try em both.

Future Days
Oct 25, 2013

The Taurus didn't offer much for drivers craving the sport sedan experience. That changed with the 1989 debut of the Ford Taurus SHO (for Super High Output), a Q-ship of the finest order that offered up a high-revving Yamaha-designed V-6 engine and a tight sport suspension.

Quirk posted:

I think the "best" KMFDM album if you have to give the gold stamp to one has to be Symbols. Ironically that was the album that made Sascha want to stop KMFDM to begin with if memory serves. There was enough atmospheric and different ideas that the album leaves you feeling like it was made by a band, a great band of people that tried really hard to make something that sounded different. Talking to alot of people from that scene and era, the 90s were really the last time the genre made an attempt to "push the boat out" before the genre really got too comfortable and started taking itself for granted with the by-the-numbers sound and imagery

IIRC Sascha hated Symbols back then mostly because: a) En Esch's inability to answer the phone; b) Schulz sending stuff that didn't sound like his usual, lovely guitar playing; and c) working with PIG.

Prop Wash
Jun 12, 2010



There is a new The Birthday Massacre album out, it's ok I guess? They're definitely moving back in the right direction from the kind of boring chuggy guitars from the last couple albums I think, but most of the songs just seem to get a little bogged down. Then again I miss the bouncy pop atmosphere of their first few albums so what do I know!

e: it's up on Spotify if you do Spotify, there's also the full album on Youtube but that's of questionable legality/ethics

teethgrinder
Oct 9, 2002

On the chance someone in this thread doesn't follow this guy yet...

https://www.facebook.com/musikpicturesidrawn/photos/a.498816090248136.1073741828.498812803581798/613883518741392/?type=1&theater

ZoltarOmniscient
Jan 17, 2013
Is anybody going to the Skinny Puppy tour location in Montreal?

mennoknight
Nov 24, 2003

I WILL JUST EAT ONE MORE SANDWICH
OH MY HEAD EXPLORDED I'M JAY FATSTER

ZoltarOmniscient posted:

Is anybody going to the Skinny Puppy tour location in Montreal?

Yes. Me and my buddies from high school.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
:vince:

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
So Chris Pohl has transformed from a vampire into James Bond. Or Italian mafioso? He's always got women doing his bidding in his videos, and imo cyberpunk-assassin is better than bikini-babes rolling around in blood.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtJ0sX6X3eE

BrutalistMcDonalds fucked around with this message at 22:59 on Nov 14, 2014

DeusExMachinima
Sep 2, 2012

:siren:This poster loves police brutality, but only when its against minorities!:siren:

Put this loser on ignore immediately!

Omi-Polari posted:

cyberpunk-assassin is better than bikini-babes rolling around in blood.

Your tastes are objectively wrong. :reject:

Dr Jankenstein
Aug 6, 2009

Hold the newsreader's nose squarely, waiter, or friendly milk will countermand my trousers.

deong posted:

So, I really like Einstürzende Neubauten Sabrina. What is a good album to listen through. I've always known of them, but never really listened to it.

I prefer Kollaps to Silence is Sexy, but Halber Mensch is also awesome as poo poo. EN is the go-to band i point people to when they go "that's interesting..." when I'm listening to industrial. But Kolaps is more "industrial" than electro-industrial, and sorta predated the new-wave influence on industrial music. But the new EN album is loving awesome, and i dunno if i should go on about it here, the goth thread, or where, but it is fantastic and needs to be listened to.

And I wouldn't mind a full length action movie based off of that new blutengel video, but has blutengel done anything new or different over the years? They still sound like "generic german industrial that listened to way too much rammstein"

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

AA is for Quitters posted:

And I wouldn't mind a full length action movie based off of that new blutengel video, but has blutengel done anything new or different over the years? They still sound like "generic german industrial that listened to way too much rammstein"
They've become more professional and the production values have steadily improved, but it's always been very predictable goth electro-pop.* I like it, but a lot of people don't.

* But that's pop music. The innovations are mainly in production techniques and visuals. A lot of the appeal for me is the ridiculous shtick. Like Lady Gaga or something. Wait, what happened to her?

Huh. Her big thing coming up was singing aboard the Virgin Galactic spaceship sometime early next year. Well, the spaceship blew up two weeks ago so I'm guessing that's out. Could you imagine if that thing blew up with Lady Gaga on board during a FRIGGIN CONCERT?

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TOOT BOOT
May 25, 2010

Omi-Polari posted:

Huh. Her big thing coming up was singing aboard the Virgin Galactic spaceship sometime early next year. Well, the spaceship blew up two weeks ago so I'm guessing that's out. Could you imagine if that thing blew up with Lady Gaga on board during a FRIGGIN CONCERT?

If I were going to die I'd want to it to be while giving a concert on an exploding spaceship.

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a cyborg mug
Mar 8, 2010



AA is for Quitters posted:

And I wouldn't mind a full length action movie based off of that new blutengel video, but has blutengel done anything new or different over the years? They still sound like "generic german industrial that listened to way too much rammstein"

They just did a full-blown symphonic album which is really good. Plus a tour.

(also Rammstein and Blutengel :confused: :confused:)

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