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So holy poo poo I just unlocked Boss Rush  and then used Telepills to go straight to Mama Gurdy who trashed my rear end instantly Also: made the huuuuuuuge mistake of picking up Soy Milk with Azazel
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The first and only time I've seen Mama Gurdy was when I had a completely absurd Brimstone + Krampus' Head build as Eve. I assume she's difficult but I wouldn't know.
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Nov 10, 2014 06:37
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Internet Kraken posted:Man, if you're gonna do the orbit challenge then do it before you unlock Necropolis. Trying to kill masks of infamy with those lovely tears is an exercise in frustration. That's what bombs are for. Blow the door open and leave.
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Nov 10, 2014 06:39
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 Oh god, the D100 rerolls EVERYTHING! Your items, anything on the floor, enemies in the room, items on pedestals...
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Nov 10, 2014 06:40
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I was really excited about beating mom's heart in the suicide king challenge before I saw the light leading up to the cathedral. I wasn't excited after that.
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Nov 10, 2014 06:41
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 PS4 patch is out!! Deleted my broken save and I'll happily just play on PS4 until a Vita patch comes out too. Sync is now manual. Kind of goofy they can't figure out how to do that properly, but at least I can safely play now. Otherwise it contains the Steam fixes too. Really surprised Sony got this out so quick. edit: no confirmation when downloading from cloud and replacing your file. Gotta be careful! teethgrinder fucked around with this message at 07:18 on Nov 10, 2014 |
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Nov 10, 2014 06:43
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NO LISTEN TO ME posted:I was really excited about beating mom's heart in the suicide king challenge before I saw the light leading up to the cathedral. I had this happen to me in the family man challenge and lost on Isaac  . I had so many familiars following me too it wasn't funny I thought for sure I would win. Along with the three I start with I had dark bum, ghost baby, little steven, and little gish. But it wasn't enough I didn't make it to Isaac with enough HP. I also had Krampus' head plus a 48-hr energy but I used the pill on mom's heart thinking it was the end!
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Nov 10, 2014 06:44
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Does the Darkness Approaches challenge just not give devil deals? Every time the devil shows up he's just offering hearts or chests.
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Nov 10, 2014 06:55
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Blowing stuff up chat: I've noticed you can get certain items from blowing up some stuff. Pots in basement/cellar can payout with a quarter. Mushrooms in the caves/catacombs can payout with the mini mushroom or magic mushroom. The skulls in the depths/necropolis can payout with the dry baby or lil' haunt. The guys in secret rooms (that usually spawn spiders) can payout with the steam sale. Blowing up the statues in devil/angel rooms may have some interesting results as well.
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Nov 10, 2014 07:05
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Mushrooms can also drops pills or any of the other mushrooms besides those two(including the Liberty Cap).
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Nov 10, 2014 07:09
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blue fires also have a fairly decent chance of dropping soul hearts. it's more than worth it if you have spare bombs. no idea about purple fires, though.
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Nov 10, 2014 07:10
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Sanctum posted:Blowing stuff up chat: I've noticed you can get certain items from blowing up some stuff. If you have an item that lets you destroy stuff when you walk over them, Just walk over every skull because you'll be drowning in cards and sin hearts. Don't do it with mushrooms though, some of them can explode and it's usually not worth it, unless you have like, book of shadows or something.
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Nov 10, 2014 07:11
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Agent Kool-Aid posted:blue fires also have a fairly decent chance of dropping soul hearts. it's more than worth it if you have spare bombs. no idea about purple fires, though. Purple fires are exactly the same as blue except they attack you. They're like red fires. Be careful in the womb if you have auto-break for rocks. There's some variants that spit out bullets when broken and it's just about impossible to avoid getting hit.
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Nov 10, 2014 07:13
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Anyone want a seed with a Dead Cat in the curse room adjacent to the starting one? 4JYK W2D8 Really between devil rooms and curse rooms it's not very difficult to find one. Brother Entropy posted:Mushrooms can also drops pills or any of the other mushrooms besides those two(including the Liberty Cap).
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Nov 10, 2014 07:21
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Did PHD reroll pills already on the ground after you got it in the original? I left a bad trip pill, got PHD, and came back to it being a speed up.
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Nov 10, 2014 07:23
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NO LISTEN TO ME posted:If you have an item that lets you destroy stuff when you walk over them, Just walk over every skull because you'll be drowning in cards and sin hearts. Make sure you clear the room first though, because if you spawn one of those skull dicks with other dudes in the room you'll have to kill them too.
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Nov 10, 2014 07:23
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I had a Speed Down in my inventory when I picked up PHD, and it turned it into a Speed Up. 
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Nov 10, 2014 07:26
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Kaethela posted:Purple fires are exactly the same as blue except they attack you. They're like red fires. that's good to know. i'd just never bothered with the purples ones before because of the chance of them getting in a cheap hit. also, i think there might be rocks in the womb that leave little puddles of the damaging red stuff as well?
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Nov 10, 2014 07:29
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I don't really have any emotional stake in whether Holy Mantle is nerfed, but if it is nerfed, a reasonable nerf would be for it to take the first half heart of damage in every room, rather than the first hit.
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Nov 10, 2014 07:33
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Curse of the blind just caused me to pick up Bob's Brain (which I don't totally hate) on my first run as The Lost. This was naturally after getting the Holy Mantle and a few good damage items. I died because I'm bad with Bob's Brain.
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Nov 10, 2014 07:34
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If anyone wants to play around with Monstro's Lung, I got a pretty good seed for it: XCNS S1C9
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Nov 10, 2014 07:35
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This game needs a Flak Jacket equivalent that makes you immune to all self-caused explosions. Actually, does that exist? I forget if the first game had that.
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Nov 10, 2014 07:36
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Rocketlex posted:This game needs a Flak Jacket equivalent that makes you immune to all self-caused explosions. Actually, does that exist? I forget if the first game had that. It has something better. It's called "Pyromania".
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LaughMyselfTo posted:I don't really have any emotional stake in whether Holy Mantle is nerfed, but if it is nerfed, a reasonable nerf would be for it to take the first half heart of damage in every room, rather than the first hit. Are there really people who think Holy Mantle needs a nerf? I was pretty much ok with the Dark Bum nerf, but at this point I think these people just don't really 'get' the spirit of BoI. If you're going to nerf the Mantle, why not the Wafer? Why not EVERY really good item?
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Rocketlex posted:This game needs a Flak Jacket equivalent that makes you immune to all self-caused explosions. Actually, does that exist? I forget if the first game had that. Man, have I got a thing for you. Pyromaniac - The player receives 5 bombs. The player gains a passive effect in which all explosions heal the player for one heart. If used with ???, no soul hearts are generated, but he retains immunity to explosions. This also makes the player immune to Mom's, Satan's and other enemies' stomp attacks, making those fights incredibly easy. ErIog fucked around with this message at 07:51 on Nov 10, 2014 |
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Rocketlex posted:This game needs a Flak Jacket equivalent that makes you immune to all self-caused explosions. Actually, does that exist? I forget if the first game had that. Pyromaniac makes literally every explosion heal you by a full heart. It can make Samson runs into truly magical adventures.
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Nov 10, 2014 07:41
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One issue with the Holy Mantle is that it makes every no damage achievement incredibly easy. And again there's a difference between "awesome broken combo" and "I don't take damage lol".ZZT the Fifth posted:It has something better. It's called "Pyromania".
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NO LISTEN TO ME posted:If you have an item that lets you destroy stuff when you walk over them, Just walk over every skull because you'll be drowning in cards and sin hearts. Well it depends on which pills are available in your game. If you're getting the full heal pills and you have enough max health you can totally come out ahead from smashing the mushrooms.
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Nov 10, 2014 07:42
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I'm pissed, I managed to kill Mom with Lazarus at like 19:45, but I decided to check out the devil room before I did the boss rush and when I came out the crack was gone.
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Nov 10, 2014 07:44
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Irony Be My Shield posted:A downgraded version might make sense as a shop item though. Exactly what I was thinking. Have an item called Flak Jacket that's less amazing but more common than Pyromania. In reality, what it would do is apply a "Can't Hurt You" effect to all your explosions, similar to how Poison Bombs affects all explosive attacks you perform. This means enemy explosions would still hurt you. It'd appear in shops and secret rooms fairly commonly, and could also be dropped by Wrath.
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Holy Mantle doesn't really need a nerf but it does feels weird to have gotten some of those no hit achievements already thanks to it.
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Brother Entropy posted:Holy Mantle doesn't really need a nerf but it does feels weird to have gotten some of those no hit achievements already thanks to it. It probably should have been a challenge unlock from something difficult like The Purist, as a measure of balance to its amazing power.
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Nov 10, 2014 07:49
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You have to get all the no damage achievements to unlock it
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Random rear end in a top hat posted:Are there really people who think Holy Mantle needs a nerf? I was pretty much ok with the Dark Bum nerf, but at this point I think these people just don't really 'get' the spirit of BoI. If you're going to nerf the Mantle, why not the Wafer? Why not EVERY really good item? A lot of the nerf discussion is predicated on considering the usefulness of items in the old WotL meta rather than the actual situation in Rebirth. Dark Bum would have been absurd in WotL because your hearts could go off the screen into oblivion. Now with having a max of 12 hearts it's quite a lot less useful. I agree with the nerf making it so it doesn't drop 1:1 red hearts to soul hearts, but it was really only slightly more powerful than the Mitre. The Mantle is in the angel room pool and fits well with the other items there. You make a good point about comparing it to the Wafer which is far more powerful. I think a lot of people are thinking it's overpowered because it makes getting the *Boy achievements easier even though it's not like those really unlock anything. In terms of the actual mechanics it's not really that crazy. From what I gather, all the new bosses are much harder anyway. Everyone's killing Satan or Blue Baby right now with it, and thinking its bonkers OP. They're not imagining having to fight Mega Satan as The Lost or whatever other crazy nonsense is lurking around. People are also gnashing their teeth over balance right now because the game is new. It feels like stuff is more likely to be changed in patches right now, and so they're all making a lot of noise to try to get the attention of the devs. The original game and WotL also had a lot of balance patches that happened over time, and so people are thinking this game is going to need a similar level of re-balancing. The thing they're missing is that Rebirth had a dev cycle that was longer than 3 months, and was much more extensively tested before it was put out. They also had a lot of interaction with YouTube streamers like Bisnap, and Spider himself was a developer on the actual game. So there's a lot fewer balance issues to sort out this time, but a lot of people aren't really hip to all that. They're still imagining it being like Ed and Florian are tinkering with Flash code. ErIog fucked around with this message at 08:06 on Nov 10, 2014 |
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PSJM X4RE Just had this run as Azazel. First room was the Wafer, next I got the holy mantel from the angel, then scalpular or whatever from the angel. The game should of just ended right there. My only regret is when I passed up the deals with the devil one of the items was Guppy's Paw. I found 2 more Guppy items a few minutes later 
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Rocketlex posted:The first and only time I've seen Mama Gurdy was when I had a completely absurd Brimstone + Krampus' Head build as Eve. I assume she's difficult but I wouldn't know. If you have any kind of flght, Mama Gurdy's a complete joke. If you don't have flight, stay still when she goes offscreen or does the spike animation and stay toward front corners to make the yellow vomit balls easy to dodge. She's really not bad.
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Yeah, getting no-hit achievements with it should be fixed (along with the second-floor only bug for those), and it probably should have been an unlockable, but the cat is kinda out of the bag at this point. I'm honestly not even that attached to it, I just think we're nerfing items that are merely really good rather then single-handedly gamebreaking, then you have to nerf Brimstone and other cool poo poo. I think it's perfectly ok to have some items that are better, even much better, then others.
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Waffle! posted:Did PHD reroll pills already on the ground after you got it in the original? I left a bad trip pill, got PHD, and came back to it being a speed up. PHD still has the old Cain/Lucky Foot setup where you can't get negative status effects from pills, so negatives will all reroll as positives.
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Nov 10, 2014 07:59
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There's something amazingly cathartic about getting a floor 1 knife and dead cat as the lost after trying for upwards of 6 hours to legitimately play the lost.
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Hahahahahaha I just one-shotted Mom's Heart with Azazel + Tammy's Head. I love this game.
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