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trucutru
Jul 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
Sometime ago...

quote:

OKCoin Tops World BTC/USD 24-Hour Trade Volumes For First Time

Because

http://www.coindesk.com/asian-exchanges-adopt-controversial-counting-method-futures-trades/

quote:

Asian Exchanges Adopt Controversial Counting Method For Futures Trades

....
OKCoin, Tackett wrote, had noticed competitors 796.com and BitVC (a subsidiary of Huobi) were employing a counting method that regards a single bitcoin traded as two units: one bought and one sold.

In doing so, OKCoin's 24-hour high volume that week leaped instantly from 300,000 BTC to 600,000 BTC. The company did not retroactively alter historic trading data before that date.

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mod saas
May 4, 2004

Grimey Drawer
the honey badger of exchanges

Greyhawk
May 30, 2001


trucutru posted:

OKCoin, Tackett wrote, had noticed competitors 796.com and BitVC (a subsidiary of Huobi) were employing a counting method that regards a single bitcoin traded as two units: one bought and one sold.

In doing so, OKCoin's 24-hour high volume that week leaped instantly from 300,000 BTC to 600,000 BTC. The company did not retroactively alter historic trading data before that date.

:pusheen:

Segmentation Fault
Jun 7, 2012
I read that thinking OKCoin was OKCupid But With Bitcoin

nanerpuss
Aug 6, 2005

voudrais-tu une banane, mon amie?

Segmentation Fault posted:

I read that thinking OKCoin was OKCupid But With Bitcoin

pairing libertarian minded cryptocurrency fans with the perfect btc exchange that will certainly run away with their money.

theflyingorc
Jun 28, 2008

ANY GOOD OPINIONS THIS POSTER CLAIMS TO HAVE ARE JUST PROOF THAT BULLYING WORKS
Young Orc

Segmentation Fault posted:

I read that thinking OKCoin was OKCupid But With Bitcoin

same, but OK soda

Greed is eternal
Jun 8, 2008
i wonder what mark karpeles is doing right now

AlbieQuirky
Oct 9, 2012

Just me and my 🌊dragon🐉 hanging out

Greed is eternal posted:

i wonder what mark karpeles is doing right now

Sleeping, even though it's almost 9 a.m.

killhamster
Apr 15, 2004

SCAMMER
Hero Member

jony ive aces posted:

i also noticed a bunch of other ones here
https://web.archive.org/web/20140803064235/http://buttcoin.org/page/2
that aren't here
http://www.buttcoinfoundation.org/page/3

including the "Poetry, but with Bitcoin!" one which is the only one i get a mention in :haw: and which i wanted to quote something from in reply to a post yesterday (the actual article doesn't seem to be on archive.org :()

anyway i don't mean to be an impatient dick about this buttcoin stuff that you guys aren't getting paid for (any more, lol), i can't even remember what i was going to quote it for, but it would be good if you still have it saved somewhere and are able to restore it when convenient

goddammit i missed that one somehow

now i gotta dig through archives to find them all again

TVarmy
Sep 11, 2011

like food and water, my posting has no intrinsic value

Herman Merman posted:

seconded
also the previous version was missing this one (can't remember who wrote it :(), please do the needful

it was ChickenOfTomorrow

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3606857&pagenumber=438&perpage=40#post427476764

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

Heresiarch posted:

oddly enough the best explanation i've found about gg is the rationalwiki article since it doesn't feel the need to be "fair" or something

quote:

On November 5, KingOfPol, a central figure of Gamergate, announced that he was parting ways with the movement.[106] He stated that, over the previous three months, he had been subjected to constant harassment (including threatening phone calls), and that most of it "[came] from #GamerGate itself, not really anti-GG surprisingly."[106] KingOfPol had, earlier in the week, fed a completely made-up "leak" (a fabricated screenshot purporting to show Nick Denton of Gawker thanking his secret Facebook coven for helping him conspire to ruin Gamergate) to Fredrick Brennan of 8chan.[107] Brennan initially accepted the "leak" as legitimate.[107] KingOfPol and Brennan then passed the "leak" on to Milo Yiannopoulos, but he immediately recognised it as a fake.[107] Brennan was not happy when he realised he'd been fooled.[108] He wrote a piece denouncing KingOfPol.[108] Milo Yiannopoulos, seeing the quality of "leak" Gamergaters took seriously, started realising these people were just a bit too nuts to revive his own reputation.[109]

ahahaha oh my gently caress

Heresiarch
Oct 6, 2005

Literature is not exhaustible, for the sufficient and simple reason that no single book is. A book is not an isolated being: it is a relationship, an axis of innumerable relationships.
also that mackensie kelly person, the candidate for austin city council who was pro-gg on twitter and then got doxxed by them herself?

my district

she got less than 10% of the vote

[edit] also milo yiannopoulos's twitter has been suspended for some reason

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

Heresiarch posted:

[edit] also milo yiannopoulos's twitter has been suspended for some reason

twitter has a bunch of new anti-harassment tools. maybe he got k-lined for being a shitheel

Linguica
Jul 13, 2000
You're already dead

trap spurng

Heresiarch
Oct 6, 2005

Literature is not exhaustible, for the sufficient and simple reason that no single book is. A book is not an isolated being: it is a relationship, an axis of innumerable relationships.
i haven't heard that term in years

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

Heresiarch posted:

i haven't heard that term in years

i haven't used irc in years, so i guess that's fitting


Linguica posted:

trap spurng

shut up. i'm old okay.

Malloc Voidstar
May 7, 2007

Fuck the cowboys. Unf. Fuck em hard.

tacodaemon posted:

over on deepdotweb.com theres a report that pedos are trying to use The Currency Of The Future to crowdfund higher quality kiddy porn

i wonder how many fbi agents they already have adminning their site (assuming it wasnt set up by fbi agents in the first place)
http://www.deepdotweb.com/2014/11/09/as-drug-markets-are-seized-pedophiles-launch-a-crowdfunding-site/
i recommend reading the comments if you aren't hitting your mad quota for today

or on second thought don't

Heresiarch
Oct 6, 2005

Literature is not exhaustible, for the sufficient and simple reason that no single book is. A book is not an isolated being: it is a relationship, an axis of innumerable relationships.
those people had better have a lot of faith in the bitcoin tumbler they're using

or maybe they actually think bitcoin is anonymous?

ChickenOfTomorrow
Nov 11, 2012

god damn it, you've got to be kind

Herman Merman posted:

seconded
also the previous version was missing this one (can't remember who wrote it :(), please do the needful

:cabot: that was mine :)

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

Heresiarch posted:

or maybe they actually think bitcoin is anonymous?

let them. this seems like exactly the sort of problem that's going to solve itself.

bonus points if the whole thing is an LEO honeypot from the getgo

Same Great Paste
Jan 14, 2006




Aleksei Vasiliev posted:

http://www.deepdotweb.com/2014/11/09/as-drug-markets-are-seized-pedophiles-launch-a-crowdfunding-site/
i recommend reading the comments if you aren't hitting your mad quota for today

or on second thought don't

...

quote:

This site is the best method for child porn producers to sell their content. Before, it was almost impossible to make commercial grade child porn

is about where my eyes refused to keep reading.

:suicide:

Same Great Paste
Jan 14, 2006




infernal machines posted:

let them. this seems like exactly the sort of problem that's going to solve itself.

bonus points if the whole thing is an LEO honeypot from the getgo

Muscle Tracer
Feb 23, 2007

Medals only weigh one down.

Herman Merman posted:

seconded
also the previous version was missing this one (can't remember who wrote it :(), please do the needful

that buttcoin post doesn't actually appear to have been waybacked???

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

quote:

There have been many false rumors in the pedo community that bitcoins are traceable.

holy lol.

also, real handy of them to have a go to tumble to point every one to as well.

they even offer refunds if the goal isn't met. i'm sure that in no way compromises the anonymity of the service.

amazing.

Heresiarch
Oct 6, 2005

Literature is not exhaustible, for the sufficient and simple reason that no single book is. A book is not an isolated being: it is a relationship, an axis of innumerable relationships.
i wonder what would happen if the fbi called up coinbase (or whoever) and said "we have a bitcoin address that was used to purchase child abuse images, and it received its funds from you, can you give us what we need or do we need to talk to a judge?"

jony ive aces
Jun 14, 2012

designer of the lomarf car


Buglord

killhamster posted:

goddammit i missed that one somehow

now i gotta dig through archives to find them all again
:ohdear:

also there are a few more articles missing than just that one

VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE
Aug 1, 2004

whoa, what just happened here?







College Slice

Heresiarch posted:

i wonder what would happen if the fbi called up coinbase (or whoever) and said "we have a bitcoin address that was used to purchase child abuse images, and it received its funds from you, can you give us what we need or do we need to talk to a judge?"

pretty sure something like this has already happened and the info got handed over immediately

infernal machines posted:

holy lol.

also, real handy of them to have a go to tumble to point every one to as well.

they even offer refunds if the goal isn't met. i'm sure that in no way compromises the anonymity of the service.

amazing.

boy I would love to be in the op that organizes this

1) conspiracy
2) money laundering

all in one go and you're not even looking at actual cp

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

Heresiarch posted:

i wonder what would happen if the fbi called up coinbase (or whoever) and said "we have a bitcoin address that was used to purchase child abuse images, and it received its funds from you, can you give us what we need or do we need to talk to a judge?"

as much as i hate to say it given the circumstance, i'd hope they'd be told to get a warrant.

of course once they had one i'd fully expect coinbase to roll over and give them everything

Malloc Voidstar
May 7, 2007

Fuck the cowboys. Unf. Fuck em hard.

missy76, certainly uncompromised operator of Cloud 9 posted:

Hi all,

I would like to give an honest update of where we are at.

The server was seized with our DB and we for obvious reasons cannot access it. So this leave us with a predicament - as the last successful backup was 2 weeks before the seizure, and thus presents a problem when calculating BTC balances.

First, all your shipping addresses were automatically encrypted (even if you did not encrypt) and are safe, also any messages which you automatically encrypted are also safe.

Second, we have all BTC, this was not seized. They only took the web/DB server.

There are a few options we can go by:

1. Restore C9 with the DB as it was 2 weeks prior to the seizure, balances will be what they were then - This will mean some people win with free BTC, others who deposited in those 2 weeks after lose out.

a. Any user accounts created after this point in time will need to be re-created.

b. You should reset your passwords, however they are hashed and would be safe depending on password length.

c. For vendors, some products that were uploaded may not have images attached, and would have to be re-uploaded.

2. Restore C9 with no balances, and build a repayment platform, where you enter your BTC balance as it was prior to seizure, and we manually go through and check updating balances as they were - this is difficult, considering how many scammers there are, and everybody would say they are owed many BTCs.

So I prefer #1 because some will win, some will lose, it is better than everybody losing.

Next is building C9 so that when seized we can continue running elsewhere immediately, so the plan being put into progress over the coming days/week is to have a replicated standby server with a second onion URL that will be released if the new server is seized at any point in the future. We will also secure the private key of the onion site better so they cannot take it to put up a seizure notice. Lastly we'd be building a detection script to check and alarm for when our servers are frozen for a period of time (e.g. disks are being snapshotted without our request) so we can recognize when/if servers need to be moved.

C9 would have been running immediately if the sync of DB log archives were up to scratch, this is my own fault for not checking the process, it is something I will be more vigilant with in the future.

Lastly, Panacea is still running, and I will be doing the same steps to Panacea to ensure it will be fine moving forward.

I guess you could call this my outage report, and future recommendations so it doesn't happen again. I hope you all can put through your suggestions. :)

Thanks to all who supported us so far, and the great comments I had via PM about C9.
ciphersexual 7 points 2 hours ago
Were tracking numbers encrypted also?

missy76 [S] 1 point 20 minutes ago
No, I'm sorry to say they were not, I will remove this feature

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

Aleksei Vasiliev posted:

ciphersexual 7 points 2 hours ago
Were tracking numbers encrypted also?

missy76 [S] 1 point 20 minutes ago
No, I'm sorry to say they were not, I will remove this feature

lol.

so they encrypted shipping addresses but not tracking numbers? because there's no possible way you could derive the source and destination of a package from the tracking number, right?

jfc. how is it possible to be this stupid but still manage to use a fairly complicated piece of technology?

BobHoward
Feb 13, 2012

The only thing white people deserve is a bullet to their empty skull

duTrieux. posted:

they can only hide behind the facade of ethics for so long

http://waxy.org/2014/10/gamergate_schadenfreude/

more nourishing gamergater tears:

https://archive.today/xnFKy#selection-379.0-379.339

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



infernal machines posted:

lol.

so they encrypted shipping addresses but not tracking numbers? because there's no possible way you could derive the source and destination of a package from the tracking number, right?

jfc. how is it possible to be this stupid but still manage to use a fairly complicated piece of technology?

Buttcoin: I feel reasonably smart

Boxturret
Oct 3, 2013

Don't ask me about Sonic the Hedgehog diaper fetish

Heresiarch posted:

or maybe they actually think bitcoin is anonymous?

finally bitcoiner's lack of understanding can do some good

Same Great Paste
Jan 14, 2006




quote:

There have been many false rumors in the pedo community that bitcoins are traceable.

i can't decide what would be funnier - this guy being a fed, or a genuine coiner legit trying to "help"

surebet
Jan 10, 2013

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Same Great Paste posted:

is about where my eyes refused to keep reading.

:suicide:

as always, the comments is where you'll really lose your poo poo

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?
I was kinda shocked (yet it makes total sense) that people pointed out how LEOs were going so hard after drug sites but didn't really seem to care about CP-only sites. like that's just a nice side-effect for the FBI if they can sieze a bunch of drug money too

Sham bam bamina!
Nov 6, 2012

ƨtupid cat

surebet posted:

as always, the comments is where you'll really lose your poo poo

quote:

NonPedoButSupportsPedos
November 10, 2014 at 1:02 am

Well yes. Sexual stimulation feels good for all people. Sexual stimulation reduces stress, releases bonding hormones, and it is fun. All things good for kids. Only when it is forced it is bad.

quote:

Gideon
November 9, 2014 at 7:38 pm

I’m going to play devil’s advocate here, because I’ve been thinking about this for some time. Before you decide to bash me, keep in mind that I’m just trying to spark conversation here.

You guys are saying some awfully judgmental things about this group of people, but isn’t that the same kind of things that people have been saying about homosexuals for decades?

[...]

And no, I’m not looking for justification for anything. It is amazing how quickly people jump to casting judgment on someone who dares to ask these kinds of questions. It’s like ‘If you ever DARE to ask about a negative stereotype about a particular race, then you are obviously a racist douche.’ It’s actually a pet peeve of mine. Why can’t people ask these kinds of questions without having accusations of being a pedo hurled in their direction?

quote:

Incorrect
November 10, 2014 at 7:55 pm

“Yeah, children love sex so much that you sick rapists (sex with a child is always rape) have to travel to third-world-countries all the time to find poor and desperate kids who have to prostitute themselves to survive.”

Literally irrelevant to the topic at hand. What if I said this?

Yeah, women love casual sex so much that you sick rapists (sex with a women outside of marriage is always rape) have to travel to third world countries all the time to find poor and desperate women who have to prostitute themselves to survive.

“I was in Cambodia, and I saw how the little girls and boys there “enjoyed” it, when they followed some ugly western bastards to their hotel rooms, crying so much that my heart broke (informed the police, but they are part of this poo poo there. Gave some of the kids money and said, they should go home, but soon realized how useless these actions were considering the unbelievable amount of pedos and child prostitutes there)”

Please don’t make poo poo up to try and bolster your point.

I saw a documentary and the guys said that the children were excited to see them since they would be making 100 dollars to play with their penis. The guy said they looked excited as much as their own kids on Thanksgiving.

“Note: I do not doubt that there are some sort of “sexual” (of you want to use that term for the first tactile experiences of children)”

Doesn’t matter if you doubt it. Children have a sexual drive that is repressed by society and parents. Yet children still act sexually with peers and adults anyway. You can’t socialize biology away.

“BUT AS THEY ARE MENTALLY NOT READY TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR ACTIONS, NO ADULT HAS THE RIGHT TO USE THEM FOR SEXUAL BENEFITS”

The adult is responsible if the child is harmed. The child and adult can both gain pleasure so it is not one sided when consented. Children as young as infants are capable of orgasm. Orgasms feel great when attained consensually.

“It is called “sexual partners” for some reason, and a child never can be your partner, it will always be in a way weaker position than you.”

I am not a paedosexual but please don’t insult my platonic relationships with kids. We are equals because I view them as such. You may view kids as lesser than you but that is your issue. Not mine and not any paedosexual who also views kids as equal beings. It seems you have the problem.

“Children have plenty enough options to grow into their sexuality sharing experiences among equals, e.g. other children of their age. They don’t need some sick pedos who try to manipulate them in a way only a child can’t be aware of”

Or with an adult who is loving, treats them with respect, and takes their consent as serious as anyone else’s. That’s far from a sick person. Also, I find it funny when they do it with other kids it is okay, but with an adult suddenly they can’t be away.

Cognitive dissonance is powerful it seems.
aaaaaaaaaaaaaand i think i'm done reading these things :smithicide:

vOv
Feb 8, 2014

gently caress you for posting that in here

vOv
Feb 8, 2014

**Fact:** Most of the trolls here, at /r/Buttcoin, & in the Coindesk comments are the same 3-5 people; paid to sit there and *control the narrative around* bitcoin.

I am not making a guess about this. I used to work for the department of the US Air Force that directs these activities. I'd be able to recognize these sockpuppets by their MO (tactics) anyday.

No, this is not a conspiracy theory. "Web Narrative Control" is a very well-funded branch of military operations assigned mainly to the US Air Force, but mostly contracted out to corporations like HBGary. Elections can and have been swayed by these facists controlling what the public knows about public opinion.

Oddly enough, these programs are not even classified. They never were but there is an obvious media hush job on the subject. Despite that, these stories all got out:

* http://www.informationweek.com/security/client/air-force-seeks-fake-online-social-media/229219056
* http://blogs.computerworld.com/17852/army_of_fake_social_media_friends_to_promote_propaganda
* https://web.archive.org/web/2013081...aganda-accounts
* http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/mar/17/us-spy-operation-social-networks

So where do they hire these FUDders? Right out in the open, on military contracting boards like this one:

* https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&id=223d75584bd260d9922acf328f2c0064&tab=core&_cview=0

(Note how dry the verbage is, but eventually they get into talking about PSYOPs, renaming them to something that sounds far more mundane.)

Corporations like HBGary that live off the governments' teet pick these up all day every day and assign these jobs in huge numbers out to cover specific sites and topics. No, there is no fear of being 'outted.' One of the links above actually did "out" them for this very act and about 4 people cried foul on their facebook pages. -The consensus is that the public is simply too stupid to see listings like that and understand that it directly relates to their own worldview. For the most part, they are 100% correct.

This is just what warfare is turning into now that everything important is happening online: Armies of sockpuppets, denial of nothing, and the really evil poo poo hides in plain sight by using big words to describe it. -It's working very well for them so far.

*Back to Buttcoiners:*

/r/Buttcoin seems to me to be a "home base" for these traitors. Not everyone there is a paid disinformant of course; there are plenty of fools out there who have been whipped up into a frenzy against bitcoin by the liberal press and universities against freedom concepts like sound money and free markets. So a few of these idiots are likely sincere in their hatred for bitcoin and the freedom it represents.

Buttcoin wasn't started by those folks; they almost certainly joined sometime later.

Clearly /r/bitcoin and related boards are rife with Buttcoiners, and it is obvious to the trained eye how to tell the ones that are just trolling a bit from those in no-holds-barred, full-on FUD mode. The 'tell' is that the sincere idiots are willing to listen and argue back based on your sentiment. Paid FUDders however follow a script and generally are not thinking for themselves.

On Coindesk.com there are three perfect examples of this right now; Disqus users: **darl,** **arguss,** and **Harley Strictly.** I believe all 3 are actually the same person, sitting at a desk in Arlington VA, contracted out specifically at HBGary to sway your opinion of Bitcoin. -Or more precisely: to make it appear **to you** that the public is much more pessimistic towards bitcoin than it really is, *so that you will get discouraged and be less likely to help adoption.*

I can only speculate why the US government wants to do this... Clearly it's not to benefit you and I though. This demonstrates, once again, the problem that Eisenhower warned us all about; once you build a big gun, someone is going to use that gun. We are literally talking about the propaganda branch of the Military Industrial Complex here; it shouldn't come as a surprise that it would get used against other threats to those in charge besides the threat of international terrorism.

If our movement was a violent revolution, today is the day that we should throw ropes over the tree limbs and string these traitors to humanity up. They would deserve every last painful twitch.

But as much as their charter is to search for and identify violent opposition; we won't be giving them the pleasure... A proper response is to DOX these assholes and put their department out of business through decentralizing their entire industry. Yes, even the USAF is not beyond the threat of decentralization. Nothing mankind makes is.

I do feel sorry for the dimwitted liberal/progressives on /r/buttcoin that have no clue that they are simply being suckered in to do work against their fellow human beings. In a violent revolution they too would be hung until they stop twitching. Hopefully humanity has evolved enough that this time we can take it easy on these harmful but largely duped patsies.

To those from /r/Buttcoin that are not paid to FUD the world, I say this plainly: You are being used to destroy human freedom. There is ample evidence of this. Check out my links above and then get to really understand the original bitcoin whitepaper that Satoshi wrote. It is the best weapon against totalitarianism mankind has ever come up with.

To those from HBGary and the USAF propaganda wing, to you I say that you are on the (very) wrong side of history. You are basically the modern day Nazi soldier, or at least the Redcoats of the american revolution. Schoolchildren for centuries to come will be talking about YOU as the great evil that fought against humanity's largest stand for freedom. But this time, the revolution is going to let you live to suffer the emotional scarring of this utter, soul-crushing defeat.

Your only hope to avoid the inevitible suicidal tendencies that comes with your job is to pull a Snowden and join us. Think about it.

One last thing: I will not be returning to log into this account ever again, for obvious reasons, so do not changetip me! If you feel this was valuable information, please show appreciation by sending OpenBazaar your bitlove... Send bitcoin to the project's official wallet or Changetip either **haffmabc**, **drwasho**, or **CC_EF_JTF from** /r/OpenBazaar - They need your funds right now to fight this problem at its root.

Peace, Love, & Bitcoin to all.

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Same Great Paste
Jan 14, 2006




vOv posted:

gently caress you for posting that in here

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