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Drunk Orc posted:The schools in Hamilton County are supposedly some of the best in the country, I feel like every school says that though. They can afford to give all the kids iPads though so the district can't be too broke! Getting iPads is pretty loving easy. Apple loves getting kids into their ecosystem early. Getting money to actually maintain IT infrastructure though, welp! This is why we no longer bid on education jobs.
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Anyone have a free syslog server recommendation? Splunk's "free" version doesn't work for us. Mainly for cisco stuff.
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Logstash/Kibana/ElasticSearch http://www.elasticsearch.org/overview/kibana/
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I'm a fan of rsyslog for gathering and archiving, and then piping everything to logstash/elasticsearch/kibana for analytics.
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mayodreams posted:Zionsville? I'm interviewing with Westfield Washington Schools tomorrow morning, but later in the day I'm interviewing in Zionsville for Prometheus IT consulting!
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Inspector_666 posted:Do this except instead of USB thumbdrives they're thermite grenades! How about goon thumbdrive swiss army knives? Data you can shank with. 
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Just got a call from my school wanting me to come in for an interview for a part time IT job on wednesday. nervous as gently caress because 1. i dont have ANY certs 2. im just now finishing up CBT Nuggets Network+. THAT'S how much of a greenhorn i am to this 3. This would be my first IT job
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Race Realists posted:Just got a call from my school wanting me to come in for an interview for a part time IT job on wednesday. What kind of part-time IT job?
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Race Realists posted:Just got a call from my school wanting me to come in for an interview for a part time IT job on wednesday. In theory you aren't really supposed to have any certs until you have the experience to justify them. Like, A+ is supposed to be something you earn a year's experience, Network+ is even more. In reality sure, people just learn them beforehand, but I wouldn't worry about not having anything for a part-time job. When you say "your school" - are you talking about a university? And given that it's part-time, is this a work-study/student working position? Anyway, assuming your resume wasn't filled with lies, they called you in based on where you are right now. Go in and give off an hard-working, eager-to-learn, not-horrible-at-talking-to-people vibe and you'll do fine.
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Mrit posted:What kind of part-time IT job? Job Description posted:INFORMATION SYSTEMS WORKER-PART-TIME The data entry and Office experience is nothing. It's just the "installation and configuration of personal computers and printers on a local and wide area network" part that worries me. I've NEVER done a network install or even made a network (I could, but I doubt it would be very secure). when i say im a greenhorn, I mean it. BornAPoorBlkChild fucked around with this message at 23:03 on Nov 13, 2014 |
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If it's truly an entry-level IT job, the two most important things to show (in my opinion) are customer service skills, and your eagerness to learn. Being on the first line is about providing a good customer-facing side of your business/dept just as much as it is solving the problems. Whenever they ask you about something you might not know, DO NOT BULLSHIT. Instead, get as far as you can without reaching/guessing, and then explain that's where your knowledge ends - but then explain what you'd do next. Talk to a colleague, look it up on Google, whatever.
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My guess is that you'd be simply deploying new PCs to access the network, installing the appropriate software the school uses, and then getting the printer to work over LAN. Pretty easy stuff once you do it once or twice. I wouldn't sweat it.
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Japanese Dating Sim posted:When you say "your school" - are you talking about a university? And given that it's part-time, is this a work-study/student working position? The Technical school I attended (and recently finished) has various locations. The one that called me wasn't the particular campus I attended, it's a bigger campus miles away. To be perfectly frank I'm shocked they even called me, but I'm grateful for the opportunity. If I don't get it I certainly wont cry over spilled milk.
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My school district has 10GbE, gigabit internet, 100% dual band wireless coverage, Hyper-V 2012 R2 with a SAN, and 2012 R2 domain controllers  State contracts are fune: It's totally for the kids and not my resume.
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DrAlexanderTobacco posted:If it's truly an entry-level IT job, the two most important things to show (in my opinion) are customer service skills, and your eagerness to learn. Being on the first line is about providing a good customer-facing side of your business/dept just as much as it is solving the problems. Seconding all of this. Go in there and talk about delivering good customer service and show an eagerness to learn, without bullshitting about your technical ability or lack thereof. If you're not a creeper or complete slob, that should put you ahead of most of the others interviewing for that kind of job.
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Race Realists posted:The data entry and Office experience is nothing. It's just the "installation and configuration of personal computers and printers on a local and wide area network" part that worries me. I've NEVER done a network install or even made a network (I could, but I doubt it would be very secure). Other people seem to be reading into it differently, but to me that job sounds like they are going to have you inventory a lot of things or translate a paper inventory to a spreadsheet. That's basically what the clerical work is in IT
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You'd probably be the under a senior admin, if you get stuck you'll have a lifeline.
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Roargasm posted:Other people seem to be reading into it differently, but to me that job sounds like they are going to have you inventory a lot of things or translate a paper inventory to a spreadsheet. That's basically what the clerical work is in IT The bullet points sound akin to something like this, but below int he first paragraph it states that the potential candidate needs to have experience setting up PCs etc. Basically, to me, that portion sounds like can you plug a loving computer in (power/vga/mouse/kb), can you install office, and can you plug an ethernet cable into a walljack/switch. Oh, also can you figure out how to plug a printer in via USB and install printer drivers, this will probably be the hardest thing in that list.
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So my great company who I've been with for 10 years seems to be stagnating a bit. We've been in exponential growth mode for years and years but the market is finally slowing down and they are looking to save money. So far I've been able to learn a lot of new technologies and take on new roles, moving from help desk to sysadmin, into systems engineering and architecture, but it looks like for the next while at least they aren't going to want to do a lot of big initiatives which is usually where I learn a lot of new stuff and enjoy the job. The issue is my local market is totally shite for IT. I'm in a smaler city (300-500k) and honestly after watching the IT jobs for the last year, there is very few postings for very senior technical people, and the few that include salaries don't tempt me compared to what I make here. There is potential to move into management of the department in the next few years, probably best to stay put and see what happens? I love the company but the idea of not being challenged for the foreseeable future has be a bit depressed. I spent the last several months deep diving into one area for a major project that just got cancelled due to funding, so I'm thirsty for knowledge but I don't want to make a big career mistake just because of that.
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Hi everyone. I posted a while back about a prospective first IT job. I got it and have been there for about three weeks. It's pretty cool. It's a small company so I've done all sorts of stuff, from fixing up desktops, installing them, doing networking troubleshooting, and phone support. Kinda disorganized, but still really interesting. Much better than delivering pizza. Supposedly, they said there's opportunity to move up in the company, too. I feel a bit out of my league, but still enjoying it.
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syg posted:So my great company who I've been with for 10 years seems to be stagnating a bit. We've been in exponential growth mode for years and years but the market is finally slowing down and they are looking to save money. So far I've been able to learn a lot of new technologies and take on new roles, moving from help desk to sysadmin, into systems engineering and architecture, but it looks like for the next while at least they aren't going to want to do a lot of big initiatives which is usually where I learn a lot of new stuff and enjoy the job. The issue is my local market is totally shite for IT. I'm in a smaler city (300-500k) and honestly after watching the IT jobs for the last year, there is very few postings for very senior technical people, and the few that include salaries don't tempt me compared to what I make here. Seems like you've got 3 options, 2 of which are fairly similar: 1) Stagnate at your current job and hope you get a manager position in a few years 2) Search for another job in your area, which may take time, see point 1 for stagnating in the mean time 3) Search outside your area i.e. another state or city, this may be your best option consider 1 and 2, but might not be feasible due to family or whatever else in your life.
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syg posted:So my great company who I've been with for 10 years seems to be stagnating a bit. We've been in exponential growth mode for years and years but the market is finally slowing down and they are looking to save money. So far I've been able to learn a lot of new technologies and take on new roles, moving from help desk to sysadmin, into systems engineering and architecture, but it looks like for the next while at least they aren't going to want to do a lot of big initiatives which is usually where I learn a lot of new stuff and enjoy the job. The issue is my local market is totally shite for IT. I'm in a smaler city (300-500k) and honestly after watching the IT jobs for the last year, there is very few postings for very senior technical people, and the few that include salaries don't tempt me compared to what I make here. Where the hell do you live? I'm in a town of just over 100k/y+ and plenty of companies are willing to pay six-figures starting. Then again, it does get to -20f here 
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Drunk Orc posted:How well do public schools (K-12) pay? I work for one of the larger school districts in Oregon and our entry level techs start off at about $3300/month, while our net/server admins, DBAs and programmers top out at about $7600. Locally you can easily find state government jobs that pay much better with comparable benefits. But if you want to be a big fish in a little pond it's a great place to be - our tech staff are the highest paid classified employees in the district and many of them are as dumb as rocks. Not every place has their highest paid technical person tell you that the GPO you made, which he's testing for you, put a virus on his workstation.
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Santa is strapped posted:Logstash/Kibana/ElasticSearch
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Public schools (and government jobs in general) are almost always required to publish the pay grade/band of the position. You should be able to look up the pay tables on the internet. The county where I live in Maryland pays their IT staff pretty damned well (network and systems engineers are at the top of the non-executive pay schedule), but good luck if you live in a red state in the south or midwest.
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mrchoupon posted:I work for one of the larger school districts in Oregon and our entry level techs start off at about $3300/month, while our net/server admins, DBAs and programmers top out at about $7600. Locally you can easily find state government jobs that pay much better with comparable benefits. But if you want to be a big fish in a little pond it's a great place to be - our tech staff are the highest paid classified employees in the district and many of them are as dumb as rocks. Not every place has their highest paid technical person tell you that the GPO you made, which he's testing for you, put a virus on his workstation. Holy poo poo, that much for entry level?  Where do I sign up?
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Tab8715 posted:Where the hell do you live? I'm in a town of just over 100k/y+ and plenty of companies are willing to pay six-figures starting. Yeah I am going to say that your town is not the norm. Six figures is not at all unreasonable in IT but those jobs aren't growing on trees in <random small city>. If they're plentiful it's probably because you're in a super high cost of living area (like SF/NYC where $100k is barely a living wage) or someplace no sane person wants to live without major incentives. Sounds like the latter. edit: Also you're in town where $100k/yr is easily attainable yet you're drooling over a job that pays $39k/yr (that's 3300/month x 12)? 
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Wait, that's before taxes or anything else... Wasn't thinking 
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internet jerk posted:You sound perfect for a Help Desk, do both. Pick up a Network+ study guide and begin learning networking. If you have a good grasp on that you'll already be ahead of many tier 1 Help Desk dudes. Have you ever built a PC? If not do you at least know what RAM looks like inside a case? I've never assembled a pc from parts, no. I've replaced hard drives and RAM in laptops and desktops. Applied for my first helpdesk job yesterday, but I had to check that probably fatal "no actual experience" box... unless anyone knows someone who works for Hyatt? haha.
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Zero VGS posted:Just asked CDW to initiate full refund for the 200 copies of Symantec Endpoint that my boss ordered 4 months ago, before I started working here. What's wrong with Symantec Endpoint? We use that here (and probably stuck with it too). Should I be looking into something else? I recently stepped into the role of IT admin/support on top of my regular duties (started as a developer 7 years ago) and have some plans to improve things. I was kind of doing this for some time but it's more official now. We have about 50 staff, even split of desktops and laptops, but all standalone. There is a windows 2012 server box but it's only used as a file share between 3 people. It's going to be a challenge.
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CaptainJuan posted:I've never assembled a pc from parts, no. I've replaced hard drives and RAM in laptops and desktops. Never tick that box. With job applications that have screeners such as that, it's always just to cut the wheat from the chaff - you need to get past the gatekeepers, past HR. Unless they said something like "1 year of experience required in a HelpDesk environment" or something similarly specific, I'd count replacing RAM/HDDs as valid experience. Maybe even just customer service,,too. Also, start on your certs.
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Race Realists posted:Just got a call from my school wanting me to come in for an interview for a part time IT job on wednesday. Holy poo poo CBT Nuggets! Is James Conrad still doing the videos? At work we're doing MCSA training and the James Conrad videos are really the worst part of the experience. He's so hilariously bad, the worst is the way he pronounces 'while'.
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Brayden posted:Holy poo poo CBT Nuggets! SLOW DOWN SON I love James Conrad. 90% of his jokes fall flat with him going "Uh-heh-heh" for 20 seconds afterwards, but it engages me a lot more. I'm doing the MCSA videos and finding them quite useful - Whilst he's certainly quirky, he covers all the important information. Different strokes for different folks I guess.
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Is that the guy who gets annoyingly sidetracked for minutes at a time? I watched one where he was drawing a network and spent 2 minutes drawing a hat for the user and I wanted to punch through the monitor.
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I think the job I'm interviewing for in a couple hours is the first I've gotten a call for that didn't have a ridiculous amount of requirements (5+ years experience etc) for a basic support position. Hopefully I can make a good impression. Self inspired ongoing education and the fact that I'm young both probably look good... Right?
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Good advice for entry level interviews. If they ask you what would you do when you hit a new problem, make sure you mention that you seem to have a knack for quickly finding the answer for problems on the net, you know what to search for and you know all the best forums etc. If you mention a forum or site a get a "Yeah, thats handy, I use that too" you're golden.
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DrAlexanderTobacco posted:Never tick that box. With job applications that have screeners such as that, it's always just to cut the wheat from the chaff - you need to get past the gatekeepers, past HR. Can I get away with that? Like, will the actual hiring manager not immediately disqualify me for providing false info? Well, that probably depends on the company. Thanks.
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bpower posted:Good advice for entry level interviews. If they ask you what would you do when you hit a new problem, make sure you mention that you seem to have a knack for quickly finding the answer for problems on the net, you know what to search for and you know all the best forums etc. If you mention a forum or site a get a "Yeah, thats handy, I use that too" you're golden. That's good to keep in mind. My biggest hurdle is a lack of formal experience so it's definitely important to let them know I'm more than capable of picking up new concepts and techniques easily, I'd wager.
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CaptainJuan posted:Can I get away with that? Like, will the actual hiring manager not immediately disqualify me for providing false info? Well, that probably depends on the company. Thanks. Define practical experience. No, looser than that. Looser. Looser still. There you go.
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