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A new WWE Network viewer here and so far I've learned that Countdown is pretty great. The Blunders countdown ruled and the bad gimmick one is pretty entertaining too. I'm actually pretty impressed by it. The sheer amount of stuff here is awesome, I'm gonna check out the final WCW PPV Greed next. The Monday Night Wars show is pretty obviously biased, but still interesting, the NWO episode is pretty entertaining.
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OldTennisCourt posted:A new WWE Network viewer here and so far I've learned that Countdown is pretty great. The Blunders countdown ruled and the bad gimmick one is pretty entertaining too. I'm actually pretty impressed by it. The sheer amount of stuff here is awesome, I'm gonna check out the final WCW PPV Greed next. Be sure to watch NXT. That's a must watch every week. As for myself I think my next day off i'm gonna really sit down and go through every ECW Hardcore TV they have up. To any of the goons who were ECW fans, has any of it held up over time?
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Nov 17, 2014 04:24
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BigRed0427 posted:Be sure to watch NXT. That's a must watch every week. When does NXT transform from Reality Competition to Third Show so I can go through the back catalog.
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Nov 17, 2014 04:37
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I think the only NXT episodes in the back catalog on the Network are from this year, when it's only been a "brand" or developmental territory.
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Nov 17, 2014 04:41
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Oh man, Hulk Hogan's hair at Halloween Havoc 1996. Also, we're about 10 (plodding) minutes into the match and Hogan still has his sunglasses on. ...oh, wait, both were later used as jokes. Well that's okay then.
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Nov 17, 2014 04:50
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Michael Buffer is not impressed
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Nov 17, 2014 05:01
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Daniel Bryan posted:I think the only NXT episodes in the back catalog on the Network are from this year, when it's only been a "brand" or developmental territory. Yea they only had 4 or 5 up when the network launched
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Nov 17, 2014 05:03
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I miss King of the Ring. Watching old Pay Per Views has driven that point home for me. Why did they ever stop doing it?
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Nov 17, 2014 08:29
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Baby Babbeh posted:I miss King of the Ring. Watching old Pay Per Views has driven that point home for me. Why did they ever stop doing it? It was never a PPV draw and the shows were often among the worst of the year. They brought it back for Smackdown and Raw specials and it didn't even work as a ratings draw.
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Nov 17, 2014 09:06
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It needs to come back. 
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Nov 17, 2014 09:22
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I would like King of the Ring to come back, but only if they didn't insist on calling the winner "King (Wrestler's Name)" and giving them some loving lame royalty gimmick.
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Nov 17, 2014 09:29
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TheJoker138 posted:I would like King of the Ring to come back, but only if they didn't insist on calling the winner "King (Wrestler's Name)" and giving them some loving lame royalty gimmick. That's kind of the whole point. King Cesaro or King Ziggler would be fun. Can't even say it's career suicide, it worked wonders for King Booker.
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Nov 17, 2014 09:32
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BGrifter posted:That's kind of the whole point. King Cesaro or King Ziggler would be fun. Can't even say it's career suicide, it worked wonders for King Booker. King Booker made me hate Booker T because of how loving annoying Queen Charmel was. Also Austin won it and wasn't saddled with a "ha ha you're a loving idiot who thinks you're ACTUALLY a king lol" gimmick.
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Nov 17, 2014 09:35
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TheJoker138 posted:King Booker made me hate Booker T because of how loving annoying Queen Charmel was. On the flipside the Macho King and King William Regal were fantastic. Some guys take a silly gimmick and make it work. On the surface it's not a good idea, but these days with so much filler crap and talented guys trapped in the midcard I'd be happy to see KotR back.
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Nov 17, 2014 09:40
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Two words. Damien Kingdow.
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Nov 17, 2014 10:12
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They really missed a trick not having King Brock come out in a big goofy robe and Crown with silly music and then murdering people in 30 seconds
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Nov 17, 2014 10:20
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i don't understand why people like king of the ring so much because it almost never provided good matches and the winners almost always got very lackluster pushes. i'm glad it's gone.
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Nov 17, 2014 10:35
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Maybe because it helped launch Steve Austin's career / the Austin 3:16 thing? My best/only real KOTR memory is when Angle sent Shane McMahon through that glass/window stuff with the logo on it.
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Nov 17, 2014 10:40
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Thing is with King of the ring, when it was done well it was done really well, King of harts Owen Hart, Steve Austin getting his mega push even edge having the KOTR trophy that year was entertaining, King Kurt was great and even King Mable was entertaining. the problem is people focus on the shamrocks and the billy gunns
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Nov 17, 2014 11:23
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Brokenogre posted:Thing is with King of the ring, when it was done well it was done really well, King of harts Owen Hart, Steve Austin getting his mega push even edge having the KOTR trophy that year was entertaining, King Kurt was great and even King Mable was entertaining. the problem is people focus on the shamrocks and the billy gunns King Mabel led to some of the worst main events I've ever watched so no it was not entertaining
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Nov 17, 2014 11:36
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i would've loved to have seen king mabel, wwf champion
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Nov 17, 2014 11:44
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BigRed0427 posted:As for myself I think my next day off i'm gonna really sit down and go through every ECW Hardcore TV they have up. To any of the goons who were ECW fans, has any of it held up over time? I spent the majority of last week watching them and it's a fun show. You'll get some good matches sometimes but the promos are good to excellent. Public Enemy are featured a lot but they're fairly pretty funny in the promo department. Expect a lot of clips though since they recap a lot.
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Nov 17, 2014 13:29
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Cardboard Box posted:i don't understand why people like king of the ring so much because it almost never provided good matches and the winners almost always got very lackluster pushes. i'm glad it's gone. Because tournaments are awesome.
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Nov 17, 2014 13:37
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Why not just have the King of the Ring tournament but not have it be its won pay-per-view. Have the final match at a Survivor Series or something.
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Nov 17, 2014 14:10
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That DICK! posted:Why not just have the King of the Ring tournament but not have it be its won pay-per-view. Have the final match at a Survivor Series or something. They've tried that. '06 KOTR final match was on Judgment Day. (The first one held after it stopped being an actual PPV)
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Nov 17, 2014 14:19
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King of the Ring would be great to see again as long as they didn't Billy Gunn it.
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Nov 17, 2014 14:45
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TL posted:Because tournaments are awesome. i think new japan has just spoiled me with amazing tournaments because i just can't see king of the ring as good at all
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Nov 17, 2014 14:49
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do a KOTR tournament on Main Event as a Network draw. e: or if you want KOTR back just buy the 2014 BOLA DVDs because they own
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Nov 17, 2014 15:14
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Do King of the Ring on a NXT Special, the winner gets an IC Title shot at the next NXT Special...
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Nov 17, 2014 15:27
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Pet Rock Band posted:Do King of the Ring on a NXT Special, the winner gets an IC Title shot at the next NXT Special... Or how about a Royal Rumble spot?
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Nov 17, 2014 16:16
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Cardboard Box posted:i don't understand why people like king of the ring so much because it almost never provided good matches and the winners almost always got very lackluster pushes. i'm glad it's gone. Goons just really are suckers for tournaments. The problem is that it never works in WWE because it's almost always enhancement talent and then the super obvious John Cena winner of the tournament. Remember not too long ago when they did it with Sheamus?
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Nov 17, 2014 16:25
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Cardboard Box posted:i don't understand why people like king of the ring so much because it almost never provided good matches and the winners almost always got very lackluster pushes. i'm glad it's gone. Mostly because I like my wrestling to either be good or very very bad. With KOTR we've seen a few entertaining winners and a bunch of hilariously awful ones. The problem with a lot of the current product is it tends to be just bland and mediocre. I'll take a boom or bust gimmick like KOTR over safe and boring any day.
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Nov 17, 2014 16:58
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WadeBartender posted:King Mabel led to some of the worst main events I've ever watched so no it was not entertaining The creation of King Mabel led to the royal fat-rear end face-crushing legdrop that killed the original Undertaker, and created The Phantom of The Undertaker. And that was actually really neat, because wrestlers in masks are neat. Also: The King of the Ring could be a cool idea, but they never really treated it as a big deal.
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Nov 17, 2014 17:00
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King William Regal was awesome
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Nov 17, 2014 17:53
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King of the Ring is a neat concept yeah, but if you fill the tournament with guys that are over and people actually care about then you have to have all but one of them lose. The only real ways around that are to have a bunch of nobodies in the tournament or have a bunch of dumb non-finishes. Granted nobodies and non-finishes are kind of a problem in current WWE but we don't need something that helps encourage that by it's nature. Also the idea that KIng of the Ring started a push for a lot of guys is really overblown.
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Nov 17, 2014 18:12
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Kane and big show had a 5 star classic at KOTR.
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Nov 17, 2014 18:15
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It started pushes for guys they wanted to push. Otherwise it just became another PPV where you had to do the King of the Ring every year so you have to put the crown on somebody. Also, the idea that it launched Steve Austin is kind of silly. Sure, it started 3:16 but it was still a whole almost 2 years before he was truly the top star of the company.
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Nov 17, 2014 18:16
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I kind of liked the idea of King of the Ring being a NXT/Network thing that led to an IC title match at a NXT special. I think that's because in that scenario it treats the IC belt like something that matters and is some huge goal for the NXT roster. And it just made me imagine that NXT could quasi rehabilitate that title by making it into a kind of "AP course" for the NXT wrestlers as a fast track to the WWE roster. A bunch of NXT wrestlers kill each other to get a shot at Dolph Ziggler and the IC belt so he can come down to NXT Takeover and they can try to beat him and win themselves a title that could change their careers. But I've also said before that I think if WWE just put more Network exclusive special events like King of the Ring on the Network that catered to kind of niche audiences and existed somewhat outside the WWE storytelling that it would probably be the quickest way to get me to subscribe to the Network. Give me something you're not giving me on TV and I can't just get somewhere else.
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Nov 17, 2014 18:24
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WadeBartender posted:King Mabel led to some of the worst main events I've ever watched so no it was not entertaining I completely agree about it being some awful main events but it lead to some entertaining wrestlecrap, and sometimes thats all you need for entertainment, I didn't say it lead to greatness at all just smiles
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Daniel Bryan posted:It started pushes for guys they wanted to push. Otherwise it just became another PPV where you had to do the King of the Ring every year so you have to put the crown on somebody.
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