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Budget Cop posted:thank you for your fifth grade report on why Kendrick Lamar's I is a good song Jimmy  TYSMSeriously it's good though. And we all should be listening to it. Budget Cop posted:I actually really like I a lot and like how positive it is but even i think it's corny as hell. I don't think a song being corny makes it bad though! 
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I actually really like I a lot and like how positive it is but even i think it's corny as hell. I don't think a song being corny makes it bad though!
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Nov 17, 2014 16:03
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Corny songs get labeled as such because they're painfully on the nose, not because they have positive messages hth
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EATIN SHRIMP posted:temple is probably the only poster here who makes long posts that is grounded in reality. "I" is a good song with a good message and just because it has a positive message and is a fun song that KIDS can get behind doesn't mean it has no merit you loving retards. Do you realize how pathetic you look when you dismiss any catch song with a positive message as "corny" because it's not made by some lame rear end internet rapper talking about how he has to ride (or drive, I guess) the bus? Anyone who says "I" is a bad song is just honestly not listening well. It's not a bad song, the lyrics aren't terrible and its aesthetically pleasing as far as music is concerned. HOWEVER, I don't think most people can honestly believe that the same Kendrick Lamar that had people going crazy over his control verse also made "I". Is "I" really what he talked about killing the other rappers in the game with??  Kendrick has an interesting issue in that he made a very good, classic album very early on in his career and now people are going to expect that same type of music and will hold all new projects up to the GKMC standard for a long time coming. "I" doesn't fit that mold and some people aren't receiving it well. It's like Jay-z coming out with a 99 problems remix today after the slew of Blue Ivy related tracks that he has put out....it's just not him anymore. If Kendrick wants to become the new Andre 3000 that's cool and all but people wouldn't expect that type of music coming from a dude from Compton. On the subject of Macklemore, he is literally just stealing from rap culture(synonymous with black culture), profiting off of it heavily, and people are consuming it at a loving alarming rate. If the reason why he deserves a Grammy is because he makes uplifting music then Common should be swimming in them. poo poo half the reason his music is even tolerable is because of Ryan Lewis and people don't even act like he exists half the time and gets 0% of the credit.
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Nov 17, 2014 16:28
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"I" sucks because it's horrible sounding, not because of all these other complicated sociopolitical reasons you fuckers are dreaming up.Yuzenn posted:It's not a bad song, the lyrics aren't terrible really sellin it
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Nov 17, 2014 16:36
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Yuzenn posted:On the subject of Macklemore, he is literally just stealing from rap culture(synonymous with black culture), profiting off of it heavily, and people are consuming it at a loving alarming rate. If the reason why he deserves a Grammy is because he makes uplifting music then Common should be swimming in them. poo poo half the reason his music is even tolerable is because of Ryan Lewis and people don't even act like he exists half the time and gets 0% of the credit. Common has 2 grammys btw.
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EATIN SHRIMP posted:temple is probably the only poster here who makes long posts that is grounded in reality. "I" is a good song with a good message and just because it has a positive message and is a fun song that KIDS can get behind doesn't mean it has no merit you loving retards. Do you realize how pathetic you look when you dismiss any catch song with a positive message as "corny" because it's not made by some lame rear end internet rapper talking about how he has to ride (or drive, I guess) the bus? It's obvious a bunch of people think the song sucks, I'm sorry you're taking it so personal. Saying "but but KIDS can listen" isn't some magic panacea that makes it somehow better. I don't think people are rating songs on how well they'll fit into a Sesame Street playlist. I mean I'm not even someone saying it's garbage or anything-I said before it wasn't something made for dudes who primarily listen to rap, and that's totally cool. (Although that sample and hook are kinda sorry fwiw). temple may be grounded in reality, but it's not a reality anyone else shares. And I really don't care if you or a bunch of other corny rear end white kids think it's pathetic I don't like garbage rap or listen to "internet rappers". Maybe one day when you get past listening to rap to shock your parents you'll be able to listen to people they haven't heard of and you to can like someone who has music on the internet! Until then you and temple can proudly carry the banner of the oppressed, downtrodden, disrespected platinum-selling artists. Also I'm actually MORE clever than I think I am, but it has nothing to do with how many times I may or may not write donglover in a post. donglover donglover donglover. But it's my personal rule to only refer to rappers by names that weren't generated from "Wu-Tang Name Generator" websites.
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Temple is a goddamn master troll. Another dude links a video of Kendrick performing and says he likes the song. Temple takes the opportunity to swoop in and fire shots at anyone who doesn't like it while also bringing up his love of Macklemore and Childish Gambino completely out of context for no reason other than he knows alansmithee hates them and will take the bait. Now we're 2 pages in.
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alansmithee posted:It's obvious a bunch of people think the song sucks, I'm sorry you're taking it so personal. Saying "but but KIDS can listen" isn't some magic panacea that makes it somehow better. I don't think people are rating songs on how well they'll fit into a Sesame Street playlist. I mean I'm not even someone saying it's garbage or anything-I said before it wasn't something made for dudes who primarily listen to rap, and that's totally cool. (Although that sample and hook are kinda sorry fwiw). I'm also more clever than i think i am
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Yuzenn posted:stuff And while I do agree with you a lot on the Macklemore stuff, it's actually kinda funny to me since dude made a song years ago talking about cultural appropriation and the place of white dudes in rap. It wasn't that bad from what I remember either. But that's also not gonna get you grammys and platinum albums. Also Ryan Lewis is solid for sure.
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Cool Buff Man posted:I'm also more clever than i think i am I'll vouch
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I thought that song was an SNL joke lol
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Nov 17, 2014 16:53
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alansmithee posted:It's obvious a bunch of people think the song sucks, I'm sorry you're taking it so personal. Saying "but but KIDS can listen" isn't some magic panacea that makes it somehow better. I don't think people are rating songs on how well they'll fit into a Sesame Street playlist. I mean I'm not even someone saying it's garbage or anything-I said before it wasn't something made for dudes who primarily listen to rap, and that's totally cool. (Although that sample and hook are kinda sorry fwiw). I think you do care. Which is why you write 1500 words to posts every time someone has something to say about an artist you don't like and you rehash the same dumb analogies or jokes about them ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Yuzenn posted:On the subject of Macklemore, he is literally just stealing from rap culture(synonymous with black culture), profiting off of it heavily, and people are consuming it at a loving alarming rate. If the reason why he deserves a Grammy is because he makes uplifting music then Common should be swimming in them. poo poo half the reason his music is even tolerable is because of Ryan Lewis and people don't even act like he exists half the time and gets 0% of the credit.
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EATIN SHRIMP posted:I think you do care. Which is why you write 1500 words to posts every time someone has something to say about an artist you don't like and you rehash the same dumb analogies or jokes about them ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I like talking about rap. If there's something I want to say, I'll say it. If there's nothing new, I don't. It's not really rocket science. I do appreciate you keeping accurate wordcounts of my posts and post history and what artists I do/don't like though. It's good to be appreciated.
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I don't hate i because it's corny (it is, though), I hate it because it sounds bad on a musical level. The beat uses a super-obvious Isley Brothers in an unimaginative way, the guitar sounds like it came off a dated 90s Santana album, and Kendrick is putting on this obnoxious impression of Andre 3000 for 2/3rds of the song. Even lyrically it's underwhelming; the lyrics are so vague and generic and feel-good that I feel like I'm listening to some struggle conscious rapper instead of Kendrick Lamar. Even Macklemore has more personality than Kendrick on i. I don't think Kendrick made the song to sell out, but I feel he's bought into his own hype about being the savior of rap, and released a toothless "feel good" conscious song that will appeal to everybody as a result. Kendrick got big off of doing his own thing and not bowing to people's expectations of what he should be, so it's super disappointing to see him put out focus tested radio songs when he's one of the few major label rappers that could release anything he wants to.
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HorseRenoir posted:I don't hate i because it's corny (it is, though), I hate it because it sounds bad on a musical level. The beat uses a super-obvious Isley Brothers in an unimaginative way, the guitar sounds like it came off a dated 90s Santana album, and Kendrick is putting on this obnoxious impression of Andre 3000 for 2/3rds of the song. Even lyrically it's underwhelming; the lyrics are so vague and generic and feel-good that I feel like I'm listening to some struggle conscious rapper instead of Kendrick Lamar. Even Macklemore has more personality than Kendrick on i. But chiming in with "gently caress Macklemore". I hate his stupid hair (and even more-so that I'm now seeing hipsters in Seattle wearing their hair like his) and while a few of his tracks are catchy and fun I don't give a poo poo about his alcoholism and sometimes it seems like half of his tracks are about that. Plus that whole offensive Jewish costume stunt he pulled, he should have known better. Even his big breakout pro-gay song annoys me now. When I first heard it on the radio I thought it was great but there are some serious issues with how he presents it that just show he doesn't really understand the issues all that well (and I have some serious issues with a straight white man making millions of dollars from a pro-gay anthem)
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Profondo Rosso posted:
This shouldn't get lost in all the nonsense cause this tape is really good. And I think I said it before, but outside of an odd lull in the summer, this year's actually shaping up to be a lot better w/r/t rap than it looked originally. There's no huge release that's getting a lot of attention (like Yeezus last year) but there's a lot of low-key good releases this year.
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New Ghost http://2dopeboyz.com/2014/11/17/ghostface-killah-the-battlefield-kool-g-rap-az/ It rules
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HorseRenoir posted:The beat uses a super-obvious Isley Brothers in an unimaginative way
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Nov 17, 2014 20:16
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Christmas is coming a little early this year. https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/luca-brasi-2-gangsta-grillz/id939817032
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Nov 17, 2014 20:42
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Who's excited for that new J Cole tho??? Best nap I'll ever have.
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another new A$AP Ferg track called "Doe-Active" produced by my homie Stelios Phili http://www.xxlmag.com/rap-music/new-music/2014/11/premiere-asap-ferg-doe-active/
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There are many reasons to hate Macklemore, but his dependence on good production is not unique. All rappers are dependent on their production. The beats make the song. It's why lackluster rappers like Kanye can still have bomb rear end tracks. Personally there's only like 4 rappers that have sufficiently aesthetically pleasing voices + technical rapping that would keep me interested if their tracks had mediocre production. nedit: That new Ghost is slick as gently caress.
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Is Ryan Lewis's production actually that good? I think the Thrift Shop beat gets annoying really fast and I don't remember anything about the production of any of the other songs of his I've heard. Also, where should I start with Homeboy Sandman?
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Anaranjado posted:Who's excited for that new J Cole tho??? NO SINGLES
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Ana Lucia Cortez posted:Hey guys, I'm really getting into hip-hop lately, and have been listening to Kanye West quite obsessively. I wanted to ask if there are similar artists out there in terms of production, with a majestic, sweeping feel like MBDTF, songs like Jesus Walks, Diamonds in Sierra Leone, Power, All of the Lights, Lost in the World, etc. I guess I just like stuff that's dramatic and climactic with an 'epic' feel. I haven't heard much else like it, some Jay Z maybe. But my exposure to hip hop is fairly minimal. I'd love some recommendations. The album My name is my name by Pusha T has several songs I think has kind of an 'epic' feel to it. Like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmgEoh_r_XM and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0M8djdJGnQ
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Anaranjado posted:Who's excited for that new J Cole tho??? No-one here I'd bet. Someone post that vid of Drake and Cole buying the Cole albums and no-one knows who J Cole is,it's a good one.
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Jezebel of all places did a very interesting interview with Drake's long-time vocal coach, Dionne Osborne. Worth reading if you're into this sort of thing: http://jezebel.com/a-chat-with-dionne-osborne-the-vocal-coach-who-changed-1658044149 quote:One time we started a tour in Düsseldorf, Germany—I can't remember the name of the facility right now, but it's where Hitler used to hold his youth rallies. The original balconies are still there, and the second balcony on the right was literally where Hitler stood, and the Allies dropped the bomb straight through the roof, and the bomb did not explode.
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Puseklepp posted:The album My name is my name by Pusha T has several songs I think has kind of an 'epic' feel to it. I agree with this but Pusha T is a pretty big jump from Ye, so I think you should ease your way in with some Cruel Summer or Watch the Throne and then work your way from there. You are looking for the nu wave type Kanye but if you want to go back to the Jesus Walks Kanye, I agree with the poster that talked about Mos Def. Also Cyhi Da Prynce is a good choice in similar content with a Chicago Feel....
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doctor thodt posted:Christmas is coming a little early this year. ho oooo *dances out of thread all over the place jesus, look at this guy go he is just so goddamn thrilled*
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Anaranjado posted:Who's excited for that new J Cole tho??? I'm excited for him to get alzheimers so he forgets that he used to think he should release music.
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THNDRTHF posted:I'm excited for him to get alzheimers so he forgets that he used to think he should release music. ahahah harsh
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Big Gucci Sossa's pretty drat great, I was a little worried since I wasn't all that impressed with Back From the Dead 2, but I haven't found a track off of Gucci Sossa that I don't like yet. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ygB6zgbaK8
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Anaranjado posted:Who's excited for that new J Cole tho??? the superior Jay is hopefully gonna put out an album this year so who cares 
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Where's that spark master tape did that guy literally die but no one knew who he was so no one made the connection?
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"I'll never pull your chair out, bitch" is so loving ice cold. I haven't listened to much rap lately so I've just been exposed to what's on the radio while I commute and gently caress it's bad. How does Nicki let Drake and Wayne go in so hard on her boyfriend like that? Only is loving ridiculous. Did I miss anything good?
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Bad thread
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Professor Funk posted:New Ghost I love that he's experimenting with his beat selection and doing concept albums despite being old as gently caress
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The new Ghost song is great, it's funny that while his voice has changed over the years (he doesn't sound like Action Bronson anymore), AZ still sounds like '94 AZ
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