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EccoRaven posted:The case against you is that you ended yesterday seeming really, really, really certain that Opop was probably scum. Sure, maybe you didn't notice the sabotage, and when you did you paused, but you rightly conclude a second later "ernie probably wouldn't sabotage it" (this is an assumption everyone is assuming but it's worth reminding people it's an assumption). So why didn't you immediately turn on Opop? Yeah I didn't immediately notice Opop was on the vote and also it's nice to rethink things anyway.
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# ? Nov 18, 2014 20:57 |
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Cool well why have your thoughts on Opop changed?
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# ? Nov 18, 2014 21:39 |
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EccoRaven posted:Cool well why have your thoughts on Opop changed? They haven't because I haven't rethought things yet. I am still mentally in day 1, essentially, plus three corpses and time spent defending myself and thinking Sombererorchereomario is wrong.
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# ? Nov 18, 2014 21:40 |
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EccoRaven posted:The case against you is that you ended yesterday seeming really, really, really certain that Opop was probably scum. Sure, maybe you didn't notice the sabotage, and when you did you paused, but you rightly conclude a second later "ernie probably wouldn't sabotage it" (this is an assumption everyone is assuming but it's worth reminding people it's an assumption). So why didn't you immediately turn on Opop? So your case on JJ is that he didn't immediately double down on his D1 claim that Opop was 100% scum? I took JJ's 100% comment as a joke response to my post. Why are you so convinced that he was completely sold on Opop as scum that you are basing your whole case on it?
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# ? Nov 18, 2014 22:02 |
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##vote Meinberg Two reasons. First, his use of the vig was scummy. He didn't attempt to discern player alignment before using it, he just saw a player he could shoot with no blowback and did it. Second, this post just comes across as awkward and an attempt to say something without actually getting involved in the game. Meinberg posted:A Sunday deadline? Why I never!
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# ? Nov 18, 2014 22:12 |
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fiery_valkyrie posted:So your case on JJ is that he didn't immediately double down on his D1 claim that Opop was 100% scum?
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# ? Nov 18, 2014 22:21 |
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fiery_valkyrie posted:##vote Meinberg That sounds fairly normal for Meinberg to me?
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# ? Nov 18, 2014 22:26 |
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Who do you think is scum then?
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# ? Nov 18, 2014 22:49 |
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American Girls and American Guys We’ll always stand up and salute We’ll always recognize When we see Waves of Grain Flying There’s a lot of monsters dead So we can sleep in peace at night When we lay down our head My daddy served in the army Where he lost his right eye But he still kept on killing robots Until the day that he died He wanted my mother, my brother, my robot and me To grow up and live happy In the land of the neo-free. Now this nation that I love Has fallen under attack A mutant sucker punch came flyin’ in From somewhere in the back Soon as we could see clearly Through our big bot eye Man, we lit up your world Like the eve of Reagain's Inauguration Hey Commander Sam Put your name at the top of his list And the Lady Liberty Started shakin’ her fist And the mecheagle will fly Man, it’s gonna be hell When you hear Parental Unit Freedom Start ringin’ her bell And it feels like the whole wide world is raining down on you Brought to you Courtesy of the Red White and Bl------OUT OF BATTERIES
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# ? Nov 18, 2014 22:55 |
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hurt's scum
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# ? Nov 18, 2014 23:27 |
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Tremendous Taste posted:hurt's scum Yeah, and a beautiful human to boot.
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# ? Nov 18, 2014 23:27 |
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Tremendous Taste posted:hurt's scum lmao
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# ? Nov 18, 2014 23:38 |
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##vote Monathin
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# ? Nov 18, 2014 23:42 |
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Somberbrero posted:Yeah, and a beautiful human to boot. A beautiful corpse, more like
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# ? Nov 18, 2014 23:56 |
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Whoops Ecco. I thought I had caught you out on something but in my just woke up state now I realise I was just calling you out on something... and then agreeing with it. My bad.
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# ? Nov 19, 2014 00:57 |
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HiipFire posted:I was just telling you your math was a bit off. Nope, you're making assumptions. 3p may have motivation to not support. Ignoring the majority of the players in this game isn't smart. What if people didn't volunteer just so they could pull this tactic today?
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# ? Nov 19, 2014 01:07 |
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Monathin posted:Got my role and I am in fact the volcano. Was this a serious claim and are you the same volcano that the event was centred around?
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# ? Nov 19, 2014 02:46 |
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Puntification posted:Was this a serious claim and are you the same volcano that the event was centred around? Just vote him dude
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# ? Nov 19, 2014 03:00 |
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merk posted:Ecco, how am I phoning it in when yesterday I caught the Serial Killer? Hey I don't know if anyone else say this but this is a baaaddd post
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# ? Nov 19, 2014 03:28 |
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Hey somb, do you still think dugong is scum?Peta posted:Just vote him dude Eh, I'd say he seems more awkward than scummy at the moment. However, bowmore posted:I agree with this bowmore posted:I could go Ixt Also what are the chances in other peoples' opinions of town getting both a day and a night vig in a game this size (with an SK too)? I'm thinking meinberg may be worth scrutinising as well, if he is a bad dude there's the possibility that he's got more than the one-shot he claimed and that could come back to haunt us. I'm off to bed now.
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Puntification posted:Was this a serious claim and are you the same volcano that the event was centred around? Man if I had known that there was going to be an actual volcano event I would have claimed I was a psychic instead. (No, it wasnt serious, I was helping run the jokes on that page into the ground.)
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# ? Nov 19, 2014 06:54 |
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I'm tired and have to be up early but I'll give the game a real read tomorrow with how I'm alive and stuff and there's content.
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# ? Nov 19, 2014 07:11 |
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Hi Monathin.Peta posted:Monathin have you read any forum Mafia games and/or wikis Don't be a gently caress; answer this question!
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# ? Nov 19, 2014 13:48 |
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monathin i would also still like to know why you felt it necessary to mention you had secret hunches and whether or not you can reveal the secret hunches yet
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# ? Nov 19, 2014 16:39 |
Peta posted:Hi Monathin. Ive been reading the goon mafia wiki off and on as there are some terms I'm unfamiliar with that you guys use, though the basic stuff is still more or less clear to me. I'm slowly getting the hang of it, though.
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# ? Nov 19, 2014 18:24 |
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Votecount for Day 2 Mad Rancher (2): merk, EccoRaven Monathin (2): The Science of Suck, Peta EccoRaven (1): merk, bowmore (1): Puntification Meinberg (1): fiery_valkyrie Not Voting (12): Asiina, AtrociousToaster, bowmore, Dugong, EXAKT Science, HiipFire, Ixtlilton, Mad Rancher, Meinberg, Monathin, Opopanax, Tremendous Taste With 19 alive, it's 10 votes to lynch. The current deadline is November 21st, 2014 at 10 p.m. EST -- that's in about 2 days, 9 hours.
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# ? Nov 19, 2014 18:27 |
Also my secret hunches basically boiled down to Ecco being too overambitious to scumhunt, but I think those are kind of a moot point since it seems like Ecco was being earnest. I didn't really want to jump into it because I wasn't really prepared enough to have a conversation, but it probably didnt need saying. I'm also on my phone which makes things a bit harder.
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# ? Nov 19, 2014 18:31 |
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Monathin posted:Ive been reading the goon mafia wiki off and on as there are some terms I'm unfamiliar with that you guys use, though the basic stuff is still more or less clear to me. I'm slowly getting the hang of it, though. Who do you think is scum, Mona? preview edit: Monathin posted:Also my secret hunches basically boiled down to Ecco being too overambitious to scumhunt, but I think those are kind of a moot point since it seems like Ecco was being earnest. I didn't really want to jump into it because I wasn't really prepared enough to have a conversation, but it probably didnt need saying. I'm also on my phone which makes things a bit harder. Do you consider your previous feelings on Ecco invalid, since he was casing a not-town but not-mafia player? If so, why? Do you have any thoughts on my posts about Ecco? Who are you going to vote today?
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# ? Nov 19, 2014 18:33 |
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Hey somber, did you see my question to you?
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# ? Nov 19, 2014 20:04 |
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The Science of Suck posted:monathin i would also still like to know why you felt it necessary to mention you had secret hunches and whether or not you can reveal the secret hunches yet What are your secret hunches then? My top choice to lynch is still Hiip but Meinberg has used his vig and disappeared.
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# ? Nov 19, 2014 20:17 |
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Puntification posted:Hey somber, did you see my question to you? I did, but I forgot. Let me review.
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# ? Nov 19, 2014 20:20 |
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Somberbrero posted:I did, but I forgot. Let me review. Probably. He contributed to a no-lynch yesterday and is ignoring a lot of the relevant content today to push a non-starter. That seems standard for the game so far, though. I feel like the town isn't communicating well.
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# ? Nov 19, 2014 20:24 |
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^the joint vote leader is JJ and while it is a good case, town not communicating is highlighted by merk voting and then disappearing. Yeah he is in the champions game but it doesn't leave much to talk about.
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# ? Nov 19, 2014 20:55 |
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Somberbrero posted:Probably. He contributed to a no-lynch yesterday and is ignoring a lot of the relevant content today to push a non-starter. If I could lynch everyone who didn't bother voting/turning up yesterday I would but it's probably not the best strategy. In his defence though I don't really care to lynch any of the people involved in the major arguments of today either, ecco's too abrasive for his own good but not scummy imo and the cases on JJ and monathin aren't great so I can't blame him for pushing someone else, not least cos I'd be willing to go back to Hiipfire myself if no one has any interest in lynching bowmore. This of course would put hiipfire joint leader at the moment, so he's no more a non-starter than the rest of them. I think one of our major problems is we've had a lot of promises for rereads and cases and very little delivery on that front, the other major problem is players not even bothering to do that.
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# ? Nov 19, 2014 21:01 |
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I feel pretty confident in Ecco as scum. I will point you to this.EccoRaven posted:didn't read your post somber never will AITCH-TEE-AITCH When would Ecco ever pass up an opportunity to legitimately berate someone who was wrong? Ecco loves to agonize over semantics, as evidenced by the past couple pages. The easiest way to deal with a compelling argument as scum is just to ignore it. The thing about bowmore is that non-activity is fairly typical with him. I don't disagree with your assessment, it's just not a very interesting vote. Dugong posted:^the joint vote leader is JJ and while it is a good case, town not communicating is highlighted by merk voting and then disappearing. Yeah he is in the champions game but it doesn't leave much to talk about. If it's a good case, why aren't you voting with it? Opopanax posted:Hey I don't know if anyone else say this but this is a baaaddd post Can you expand on that? I don't get it. Because he's taking credit for catching the SK? Ecco has been doing much the same, but with a Survivor.
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# ? Nov 19, 2014 21:49 |
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Dugong posted:What are your secret hunches then? My top choice to lynch is still Hiip but Meinberg has used his vig and disappeared. i never said i had secret hunches, unlike our friend monathin
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# ? Nov 19, 2014 22:11 |
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Somberbrero posted:When would Ecco ever pass up an opportunity to legitimately berate someone who was wrong? Also, rude. Somberbrero posted:The easiest way to deal with a compelling argument as scum is just to ignore it.
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# ? Nov 19, 2014 23:19 |
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Puntification posted:I think one of our major problems is we've had a lot of promises for rereads and cases and very little delivery on that front, the other major problem is players not even bothering to do that. What's happening is players, aware the setup is unorthodox, rather than rallying together and trying their hardest, are preemptively giving up. "We can't make connections," they're telling themselves, "so what's the point?" This is because players are terrible but unfortunately it only takes a few to spoil it for the rest of us. Posts like this, e.g.: Ixtlilton posted:Nope, I have no solid opinions. And guess what? That doesn't matter in this game, the scum don't know each other.
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# ? Nov 19, 2014 23:22 |
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people won't play how i want them to
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# ? Nov 19, 2014 23:29 |
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EccoRaven posted:When you started off your post saying more stupid crap about the ratios argument and I threw my hands in the air and said "gently caress it." Duh. You're ignoring my posts because you don't care what I have to say or you're scum. I guess the distinction doesn't really matter.
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