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yeah i havent been paying attention to the thread sorry im not gonna bother making a long post explaining why to look like im trying ill post cases for the volcano group sometime around 3PM my time(gmt +1)
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Ixt is a scum. Makes a bunch of definitive scum calls, has voted for nobody but himself. Afraid of accidentally cuddling a scumbuddy?
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Nov 20, 2014 22:28
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Lmao, Asiina. I've made one definitive scum call and that's you.
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Nov 20, 2014 22:29
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Also, your shitposting this game has been so uncasual. It's not at all casual shitposting. It's just there, kinda awkward. Not at all casual.
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Nov 20, 2014 22:30
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Ixtlilton posted:My read specifically states how it's not ignoring that fact. Also, I finished the gateau and it was delicious, but maybe next month I'll go back there and get another slice and send it to you in the mail like a weirdo or something. You'll have to walk me through it then because to me talking about whether he'd bus or not doesn't make sense. It probably wouldn't survive the trip but I appreciate the offer.
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Nov 20, 2014 22:30
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I'm trying to write fewer words and it's hard. If I had to guess whether Ecco is scum or not, and I do, I would guess yeah. Part of that is merk backing the vote, part of that is that Ecco admitting he wasn't playing in good faith doesn't mean anything as to his alignment, and part of it is the emotionality he's using. For day one-point-five I think it's a fair lynch. I think lynching Hipfire is productive but I have no idea whether or not he is scum. I would prefer to vote bowmore if we're going to push a lurker. Ixtlilton posted:Asiina is the cum (wo)man, I have foreseen. f_v is doing her town thing and so is Ecco. I can't read Somber very well since he just posts up a storm as any alignment but this seems more sincere than his scum posting. merk was right for the right reasons and scum merk would probably be less right for less right reasons maybe, merk's not a busser as far I can remember and casing properly is almost like bussing. This is a scum post though. ##vote Ixtlilton Ixtlilton mentions half a dozen folk but only gives one opinion that comes close to being useful. The reasoning is complete nonsense and pearl-clutching over merk bussing is, as I'm sure someone has pointed out, hilarious and awkward. fv is "doing her town thing." What is her town thing? How is it different from her scum thing? I have a hard time reading fv's alignment so I'd like some insight. What is Ecco's town thing? How is he doing it here? When was the last time you played with me where I was scum, Ixt? I think it might be "never." I dare you to explain what you said about bowmore in a way that makes any sense + gives meaning. Ecco is fine but I'm sold on Ixt.
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Nov 20, 2014 22:38
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Asiina posted:Ixt is a scum. Makes a bunch of definitive scum calls, has voted for nobody but himself. haha I didn't even notice that, amazing.
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Nov 20, 2014 22:39
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Anyway, merk's thing starts with theory that general mafia theory disagreement is both a poor way to case and scummy, but I don't think that's quite how it developed, it was more like Ecco thought it was malicious than anything else and Ernie was doing his 3p thing and playing like his post suggested. Also Ecco said this and I think he's town and I'm lazy so I was like "Eh, that works". EccoRaven posted:I disagree. It started as disagreement over mafia principals, but when he kept pushing it I realized something was up. He wasn't going about the issue like a townie would. He wasn't indicating that he was thinking about it critically, he wasn't trying to actually argue against me, he was just putting the idea out there. I sensed that he was doing it because he had a malicious intent. Puntification posted:You'll have to walk me through it then because to me talking about whether he'd bus or not doesn't make sense. It probably wouldn't survive the trip but I appreciate the offer. Sincere casing, especially when it's right for the right reasons, in this game is similar to bussing in other games and merk is not known for bussing.
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Nov 20, 2014 22:40
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Well at least I'm getting the vote off Ecco and Somberbrero can continue being wrong about me in more words than I'm going to read.
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Nov 20, 2014 22:40
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Also, I ran a game with Ecco where you were scum and you were so insincere like holy poo poo.
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Nov 20, 2014 22:42
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And that's all the details you guys are getting for today.
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Nov 20, 2014 22:42
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Yeah actually I'm feeling stronger about this. ##vote Ixt
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Nov 20, 2014 22:45
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That's because you're either scum or terrible, and actually both now that I think about it.
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Nov 20, 2014 22:45
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EXAKT Science posted:Hey I'm here too. There are just a lot of people posting who are very much better at Mafia than I am, as well as the fact that this is the largest game I've been in yet and it's all a bit intimidating also I forgot, but I kept this post open in another tab because Exakt is likely scum. 1) "I'm a newbie, what's mafia?" - I guess I could understand this, but Exakt is a good player despite being newer and I've never seen him lack confidence before. 2) Non-opinion on Ecco - Why even mention this other than to look like you're generating relevant content? 3) 3rd Party Distraction - Talking about Hurt's flip helps us in no real way today and just provides the illusion of contribution. Ixtlilton posted:Well at least I'm getting the vote off Ecco and Somberbrero can continue being wrong about me in more words than I'm going to read. Why would you be more sure of Ecco's alignment than your own?
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Nov 20, 2014 22:47
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Ixtlilton posted:Also, I ran a game with Ecco where you were scum and you were so insincere like holy poo poo. Oh hey, you knew my alignment whilst reading a game and it gave you insight into my play that game? What does that have to do with this game? Also you barely read that game.
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Nov 20, 2014 22:50
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I still think Ecco is the best vote today. His case on Hiip is worse than all my cases which he has dismissed. He even says in his post that he's doing it to hold Hiip accountable. His own case makes it clear that he doesn't even think Hiip is scum. He voted Hiip because he was the only other player with any posts. Ecco's content about Hiip reads like someone who just wants to lynch a player, not like someone who thinks he is scum
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Nov 20, 2014 22:50
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jfc, I'm done posting for the day, Somber, you're terrible at reading me.
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Nov 20, 2014 22:51
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Ixtlilton posted:jfc, I'm done posting for the day, Somber, you're terrible at reading me. Rather than addressing anything I posted to move the conversation forward or convince me I'm wrong, or making a case that's better than "[player] bad," you're pouting. Tell me how I should read that.
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Nov 20, 2014 22:54
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That I'm stepping away rather than getting into a slap fight and your points are both terrible and make these huge weird assumptions in your logic and cause me to remember why I left mafia.
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Nov 20, 2014 22:57
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Are you so fragile that being called scum means you need to go take a walk? If my argument is so terrible then just point out why it's terrible. Y'know, play mafia.
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Nov 20, 2014 23:02
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Ixtlilton posted:Bowmore is lazy as town but this is more like lazy scum bowmore as far as I can tell. Although he didn't insult me before voting me so that gives me pause there." hmm yes, bowmore is lazy when he's town... but he's also lazy when he's scum, so I think he's scum, maybe, possibly. If he were scum he probably would have antagonized me though because.
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Nov 20, 2014 23:05
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Somber, what do you think of my case on Ecco?
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Nov 20, 2014 23:08
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fiery_valkyrie posted:Somber, what do you think of my case on Ecco? It's a good case, Ecco is just confusing because he wasn't playing this game in good faith for a long time and it hosed with my read on him. I dunno, Ecco works for me today but Ixtlilton is definitely scum.
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Nov 20, 2014 23:11
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Ixtlilton posted:That's because you're either scum or terrible, and actually both now that I think about it. no u (Is this what we've resorted to now?)
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Nov 20, 2014 23:32
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Ixtlilton posted:Sincere casing, especially when it's right for the right reasons, in this game is similar to bussing in other games and merk is not known for bussing. I feel like the major thing that affects the sincerity of scums cases is the foreknowledge of scum buddies' alignments, which isn't a problem here, he's also expressed how he'd play the game like a survivor making your point seem really odd. Also was he right for the right reasons when he called you scum D1?
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Nov 20, 2014 23:33
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HiipFire posted:yeah i havent been paying attention to the thread sorry Fine ##unvote
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Nov 20, 2014 23:54
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^the sincere casing thing just seems like a gambit by Ixt to cast doubt. "wow someone was right about scum, guess we should lynch them!"
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Nov 21, 2014 00:02
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Dugong posted:^the sincere casing thing just seems like a gambit by Ixt to cast doubt. "wow someone was right about scum, guess we should lynch them!" I don't understand what you're saying here, mostly because we haven't lynched scum.
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Nov 21, 2014 00:08
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I mean for future lynches. By saying that sincere cases is bussing it just discredits any actual cases/lynches that we may get.
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Nov 21, 2014 00:12
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The more Dugong posts the more I'm wondering if my read is off, we seem to have different approaches to playing and that might be confusing me. Doesn't especially matter since there's a number of people I'd rather vote right now.
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Nov 21, 2014 00:13
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Dugong posted:I mean for future lynches. By saying that sincere cases is bussing it just discredits any actual cases/lynches that we may get. Oh I get it. Yeah that's a kind of damned of you do, damned if you don't train of thought.
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Nov 21, 2014 00:17
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I'm just gonna make this easy vote since I almost certainly won't be around for the deadline and I don't know how active I can be before then ##vote bowmore
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Nov 21, 2014 01:06
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I will legit post from tomorrow onwards, I've just been oddly busy
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Nov 21, 2014 01:28
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Sincere casing from scum would be bussing, not from town. This was all in the context of people saying merk was scum and in the hypothetical merk was scum his actions would be akin to bussing, not that all sincere casing is bussing, I don't even know how you didn't get this from reading through it, like what.
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Nov 21, 2014 04:53
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Also, Somber's terrible at reading me, this is a historical fact. Like, he quotes my post going back and forth on bowmore like that's a scummy thing from me. He really doesn't know my meta at all.
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Nov 21, 2014 04:54
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Also, he's a dumb butt who doesn't understand that there are different kinds of lazy and that obviously if I said that bowmore not insulting me was towny for him then I think him doing so would be a scummy behavior.
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Nov 21, 2014 04:56
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And I addressed Asiina's only point which was clearly BS and not even scummy for me if it was true and then she just said she felt more strongly about me. Yeah, she's scum.
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Nov 21, 2014 04:59
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Ixtlilton posted:Also, Somber's terrible at reading me, this is a historical fact. Like, he quotes my post going back and forth on bowmore like that's a scummy thing from me. He really doesn't know my meta at all. Why would I care about your meta here? I've played two games with you, one where I though you were scum for a day until I realized you were town, and one where you seemed like scum and you were. Who gives a poo poo? Yeah, it is scummy to fake content like you did with Bowmore.
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Nov 21, 2014 05:13
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How was giving my thoughts faking content? Also, I remember you being wrong about me twice, if I was scum I was probably totally checked out because that's what I do as scum, so you really don't get credit there either.
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Also, I'm clearly not going to convince you without slapfighting for like 4 pages like our first game together and I quite simply don't care enough to prioritize this game that highly so I'm not sure why I'm bothering.
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