NBA Draft 2015: I'm Down With Karl Towns

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Declan MacManus: Sep 1, 2011; damn i'm really in this bitch

MourningView posted:

They have terrible players everywhere so drafting nothing but centers isn't really ideal. And maybe they really like Mudiay, who is currently destroying china, whatever the gently caress that is supposed to mean.

It means he's at least as good as a bajillion years old crazy Starbury and/or Yi Jianlian

# ? Nov 19, 2014 16:24

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euphronius: Feb 18, 2009

yeah thank you MV and Declan.

# ? Nov 19, 2014 16:26

straight up brolic: Jan 31, 2007; After all, I was nice in ball,
Came to practice weed scented
Report card like the speed limit

Cons: Dominican, and therefore not trustworthy.

# ? Nov 19, 2014 16:40

EvanTH: Apr 24, 2004; i like to express my inner pain by being really boring on the phone
or just when i'm kickin it
that's me though
i'm kind of oddddddd

straight up brolic posted:

Cons: Dominican, and therefore not trustworthy.

he's been competing AGAINST Team USA since he was 16, it's kinda hosed up and sinister

# ? Nov 19, 2014 16:42

MourningView: Sep 2, 2006; Is this Heaven?

Declan MacManus posted:

already has more post moves than half the centers starting in the NBA

The number is a lot higher than that.

# ? Nov 19, 2014 16:47

Declan MacManus: Sep 1, 2011; damn i'm really in this bitch

^^I try not to oversell

straight up brolic posted:

Cons: Dominican, and therefore not trustworthy.

gently caress Washington Heights yo

# ? Nov 19, 2014 16:48

straight up brolic: Jan 31, 2007; After all, I was nice in ball,
Came to practice weed scented
Report card like the speed limit

Declan MacManus posted:

gently caress Washington Heights yo

its my favorite post in months

# ? Nov 19, 2014 16:55

Nissin Cup Nudist: Sep 3, 2011; Sleep with one eye open

We're off to Gritty Gritty land

I kinda want Sixers to draft Mario so I could a starting five of

MCW
Mario
Saric
Noel
Embiid

At least once. It would probably be terrible, but hey, kiss all the ROY's.

# ? Nov 19, 2014 17:18

Declan MacManus: Sep 1, 2011; damn i'm really in this bitch

DOOP posted:

I kinda want Sixers to draft Mario so I could a starting five of

MCW
Mario
Saric
Noel
Embiid

At least once. It would probably be terrible, but hey, kiss all the ROY's.

The "this lineup will be so good in four years" lineup. But hey that poo poo worked for OKC so there are definitely worse plans, it's just that you, you know, need people to actually play at some point.

# ? Nov 19, 2014 17:30

Nissin Cup Nudist: Sep 3, 2011; Sleep with one eye open

We're off to Gritty Gritty land

Declan MacManus posted:

The "this lineup will be so good in four years" lineup. But hey that poo poo worked for OKC so there are definitely worse plans, it's just that you, you know, need people to actually play at some point.

What do you mean Tony Wroten heroball isn't an effective strategy for winning games?

# ? Nov 19, 2014 17:33

MourningView: Sep 2, 2006; Is this Heaven?

As long as one of them turns into one of the two best basketball players on earth it's a fool-proof plan.

# ? Nov 19, 2014 17:34

Declan MacManus: Sep 1, 2011; damn i'm really in this bitch

MourningView posted:

As long as one of them turns into one of the two best basketball players on earth it's a fool-proof plan.

I don't expect them to have the next Russell Westbrook on their hands but you never know.

# ? Nov 19, 2014 17:45

Max Awfuls: Sep 10, 2011

There's no way MCW isn't traded before that for a first round pick and a player with a terrible contract for the Sixers to waive.

# ? Nov 19, 2014 17:53

Probably Magic: Oct 9, 2012; Looking cute, feeling cute.

After that game, I'd very much say the Willie Cauley-Stein dream isn't dead. Considering how monotonous the stat lines were for that team, he still managed to stand out with some really nice jump hooks and advantage-takes of the defense.

# ? Nov 19, 2014 20:47

MourningView: Sep 2, 2006; Is this Heaven?

He's always shown flashes, but by the time you get to year 3 you need to do a hell of a lot more than just look occasionally competent to be considered a major prospect. I think he can go somewhere in the back half of the first, but that's about it. The offense is never going to be there.

# ? Nov 19, 2014 21:36

euphronius: Feb 18, 2009

declan add the blurbs into the second post. People love blurbs.

# ? Nov 19, 2014 22:05

euphronius: Feb 18, 2009

DOOP posted:

I kinda want Sixers to draft Mario so I could a starting five of

MCW
Mario
Saric
Noel
Embiid

At least once. It would probably be terrible, but hey, kiss all the ROY's.

I think they are going to get #1 and trade down for Mario. tThat seems the most likely result.

The shortest player in that lineup is 6'6" haha.

# ? Nov 19, 2014 22:06

Spring Break My Heart: Feb 15, 2012

Predicting trade downs at this point is kind of wonky. I can't remember the last team to actually trade down from a very high pick (maybe the Clippers in 04?) and we don't know what teams will be where, how the rankings will change by then and who the Sixers will like by the time of the draft. And of course, the odds are against the Sixers getting the #1 pick.

# ? Nov 19, 2014 22:18

Lockback: Sep 3, 2006; All days are nights to see till I see thee; and nights bright days when dreams do show me thee.

The worst team only has a 25% of the 1st pick, so 76ers probably need to consider lots of options.

# ? Nov 19, 2014 22:20

Declan MacManus: Sep 1, 2011; damn i'm really in this bitch

euphronius posted:

declan add the blurbs into the second post. People love blurbs.

That's what the second post is there for. I used to do them five at a time but now I think I'll do them like three at a time since it takes half the time (something about doing five at once makes me sloppy and disorganized) and also because I'm tired on my days off and it's all I can do to get caught up on college games, highlights, and various DX stuff that I cobble together into an "opinion".

E: As far as the Sixers go, I'd rather have Okafor than Embiid or Noel so I could see the Sixers moving one of them for a vet and a pick

Declan MacManus fucked around with this message at 23:53 on Nov 19, 2014

# ? Nov 19, 2014 23:48

IcePhoenix: Sep 18, 2005; Take me to your Shida

Lockback posted:

The worst team only has a 25% of the 1st pick, so 76ers probably need to consider lots of options.

they can only fall to fourth so technically they only need to consider four options.

# ? Nov 20, 2014 00:28

Lockback: Sep 3, 2006; All days are nights to see till I see thee; and nights bright days when dreams do show me thee.

I think you could probably play all 3 in a rotation if they all end up good. More than likely, if they got Okafor next year, by the end of next year one of them won't look like they are worth putting much effort into. Seriously, 3 rookie bigs means you're lucky if you get more than 1 starter-quality dude.

# ? Nov 20, 2014 00:37

euphronius: Feb 18, 2009

MV is right though that okafor playing 4 on d is not likely.

# ? Nov 20, 2014 00:38

Declan MacManus: Sep 1, 2011; damn i'm really in this bitch

Noel is conceivably quick enough to step out on the perimeter against stretch fours, and it's impossible to say where Embiid will be in a year's time (but if he's recovered fully than he should be able to do the same). It will be a bad defensive team for a while though

# ? Nov 20, 2014 00:44

El Gallinero Gros: Mar 17, 2010

As a Raptors fan, I can tell you there have been a few years where drafting somebody as good James Posey would have been mighty nice.

El Gallinero Gros fucked around with this message at 01:04 on Nov 20, 2014

# ? Nov 20, 2014 01:00

euphronius: Feb 18, 2009

Noel is already guarding threes well. He's pretty fast.

To my untrained eye of course.

On switches of course.

# ? Nov 20, 2014 01:02

MourningView: Sep 2, 2006; Is this Heaven?

I think Noel would be fine, but Okafor would be really bad defensively at the four and I'm not sure Embiid could do it either. Noel/Okafor would mess with the spacing on offense too, particularly since Philly hasn't shown much interest in adding players who can actually make jump shots around them.

# ? Nov 20, 2014 01:05

kiimo: Jul 24, 2003

Declan MacManus posted:

As far as the Sixers go, I'd rather have Okafor than Embiid

Disagree.

# ? Nov 20, 2014 02:12

Declan MacManus: Sep 1, 2011; damn i'm really in this bitch

kiimo posted:

Disagree.

oh you do huh go loving figure

# ? Nov 20, 2014 03:51

kiimo: Jul 24, 2003

I'd take Okafor over any other KU player in the Bill Self era in case you think my homerism is getting the best of me. Embiid is special.

# ? Nov 20, 2014 04:02

MourningView: Sep 2, 2006; Is this Heaven?

this is the same okafor you were calling lovely like a month ago right

# ? Nov 20, 2014 16:42

kiimo: Jul 24, 2003

It was in July and I wouldn't say I called him lovely.

I just said that I thought Mudiay could be the top pick and that some mocks had reservations about him being the consensus #1. Due to his height or athleticism. I don't totally remember. But you do have a solid take on players way before the rest of us see them in action which is one of the many reason why you're mod.

# ? Nov 20, 2014 21:55

The Glumslinger: Sep 24, 2008; Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?; Hair Elf

kiimo posted:

It was in July and I wouldn't say I called him lovely.

I just said that I thought Mudiay could be the top pick and that some mocks had reservations about him being the consensus #1. Due to his height or athleticism. I don't totally remember. But you do have a solid take on players way before the rest of us see them in action which is one of the many reason why you're mod.

I will say that everything I have seen on draft express says that Mudiay is playing really, really well in China. He is averaging 20, 6, and 6 on 49% FG and 36% 3PT

Then again, Yi Jilian is averaging 25 and 10 on the same team

# ? Nov 20, 2014 22:02

Kidd-Liggit: Sep 6, 2011; You mean I have to go to Philly?

How good is the competition though?

# ? Nov 20, 2014 22:04

euphronius: Feb 18, 2009

quote:

49% FG and 36% 3PT

That does not seem really good for China.

# ? Nov 20, 2014 22:05

The Glumslinger: Sep 24, 2008; Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?; Hair Elf

Kidd-Liggit posted:

How good is the competition though?

According to RealGm, these are the CBA league leaders in PPG:

code:

1	Errick McCollum		44.38
2	Dominique Jones		35.62
3	Quincy Douby		34.71
4	Lester Hudson		30.29
5	Michael Beasley		29.88
6	Jordan Crawford		29.4
7	Von Wafer		29.29
8	Al Harrington		29.14
9	Bobby Brown		28.43
10	Randolph Morris		27.86
11	Jamaal Franklin		27.71
12	Andray Blatche		27.25
13	Will McDonald		26.86
14	Mike Harris		26.83
15	Toney Douglas		26.62
16	Justin Dentmon		26.43
17	Willie Warren		26.29
18	Pooh Jeter		26
19	Charles Gaines		25.4
20	Jianlian Yi		25.33
21	Mike Efevberha		24.43
22	Josh Akognon		24.43
23	Brandon Costner		24.4
24	Metta World Peace	23.29
25	Zhelin Wang		22.43
26	Chris Singleton		21.5
27	Shelden Williams	21.5
28	Michel Madanly		21.33
29	Mahdi Kamrany		20.86
30	Fadi El Khatib		20.5
31	Emmanuel Mudiay		20.14

Also, I think we need to start watching the CBA, look at those loving stats

# ? Nov 20, 2014 22:08

vikingstrike: Sep 23, 2007; whats happening, captain

Was not prepared to see Randolph Morris on that list.

# ? Nov 20, 2014 22:14

pylb: Sep 22, 2010; ^{"The superfluous, a very necessary thing"}

I know nothing about the Chinese league, but here are some other players' stats for comparison:
Marbury - 14 pts, 4.1 rb, 4.5 ast, 53% FG, 32% 3PT
Akognon - 24 pts, 3.6 rb, 2.6 ast, 53% FG, 37% 3PT
Crawford - 29 pts, 3.8 rb, 3.4 ast, 46% FG, 37% 3PT

Mudiay's statline seems decent considering his age.

# ? Nov 20, 2014 22:18

kiimo: Jul 24, 2003

Dang, Beasley found his niche.

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euphronius: Feb 18, 2009

How easy is marijuana to get in China.

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