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omgomgomg posted:Yeah but, why didn't they ever invest in anyone as much as taker? Because nobody has the talent of Mark Calaway to make the character work. If any other wrestler had been given that gimmick, it would have faded away as the other cartoon villain fodder of the time. Bray may be the spiritual successor of Taker, but he will never have the same aura because his character started as a human.
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Charles Gnarwin posted:Because nobody has the talent of Mark Calaway to make the character work. If any other wrestler had been given that gimmick, it would have faded away as the other cartoon villain fodder of the time. Taker talked about this in an interview once, but apparently "The Undertaker" was a character Vince wanted to do for a long time, since he was a fan of westerns. But Vince was so fond of the idea, he wasn't going to give it to just anyone. He wanted to find the right person to play it, so he waited and waited until he finally saw Mean Mark Callous. Also, Taker was originally supposed to wear a stove pipe hat like undertakers in westerns wore, but since Callous is already almost seven feet, he couldn't get through the entrance ways without ducking, so they quickly switched to the rounded hat he was famous for before his debut.
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Mordecai was another undertaker type character
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Did Taker have any more heel runs after his "Mah Yard" phase? I can't imagine any fans were interested in booing him once he went back to being the Deadman but my 2004-13 watching was sporadic at best
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Who is the best WCW/WWF-era wrestler to never be heavyweight champion? Ricky Steamboat?
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Blast Fantasto posted:Who is the best WCW/WWF-era wrestler to never be heavyweight champion? Ricky Steamboat? Steamboat was definitely the heavyweight champion at some point in his feud with Flair.
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Steamboat won it at Chi-Town Rumble. His one solitary NWA World Heavyweight title reign. I might be biased but my pick is Scott Hall.
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Blast Fantasto posted:Who is the best WCW/WWF-era wrestler to never be heavyweight champion? Ricky Steamboat? Dean Malenko, Jake Roberts, Scott Hall, William Regal
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Nov 21, 2014 19:04
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Jake Roberts.
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Goldust
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How could I have forgotten him?!
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Dibiase
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Junkyard Dog and Greg Valentine as well
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Nov 21, 2014 19:14
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Aside from the piledriver, what are some other banned moves in the WWE? I was going to ask for reasons, but they'd all end up being just "too dangerous" so never mind that.
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Hennig if you're only counting the WWF/WCW titles
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OldTennisCourt posted:Aside from the piledriver, what are some other banned moves in the WWE? I was going to ask for reasons, but they'd all end up being just "too dangerous" so never mind that. I think brainbusters and some variations of a powerbomb are banned.
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Nov 21, 2014 19:46
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Probably most moves where the guy taking it has no way to protect himself. Like the Vertebreaker/Copkilla.
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Helms's Vertebreaker too. Basically straight head drops that aren't tombstones, as a rule.
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Is there a reason why the tombstone was exempt from the piledriver ban? I'm not as adept at spotting moves as most as I'm just getting back into wrestling so is it just because Taker's a really trustworthy dude or is the tombstone different enough?
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OldTennisCourt posted:Is there a reason why the tombstone was exempt from the piledriver ban? I'm not as adept at spotting moves as most as I'm just getting back into wrestling so is it just because Taker's a really trustworthy dude or is the tombstone different enough? Nobody does it except Taker and Kane because they're both enormous and strong enough to do it consistently without dropping anyone. Kane holds guys 6 inches off the mat but they're good at hiding it with the camera angle.
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OldTennisCourt posted:Is there a reason why the tombstone was exempt from the piledriver ban? I'm not as adept at spotting moves as most as I'm just getting back into wrestling so is it just because Taker's a really trustworthy dude or is the tombstone different enough? It's because Taker is super trustworthy. Also, he's so good at the tombstone that it's basically impossible for him to hurt you
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OldTennisCourt posted:Is there a reason why the tombstone was exempt from the piledriver ban? I'm not as adept at spotting moves as most as I'm just getting back into wrestling so is it just because Taker's a really trustworthy dude or is the tombstone different enough? The way Taker (and Kane) do the tombstone they basically just drives the guys head into their thighs. There's always a pretty good clearance between head and mat. They still need some pretty good strength to keep them safe while doing that, but that's why they're allowed to do it.
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Smoking Crow posted:It's because Taker is super trustworthy. Also, he's so good at the tombstone that it's basically impossible for him to hurt you Tell that to the Hulkster brother! Taker almost ended his career he was so reckless
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Nov 21, 2014 19:56
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Luigi Thirty posted:Nobody does it except Taker and Kane because they're both enormous and strong enough to do it consistently without dropping anyone. Kane holds guys 6 inches off the mat but they're good at hiding it with the camera angle. Tell that to Hogan exit: goddamnit
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Nov 21, 2014 19:58
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I figure if they let you do a move on Linda onto steel steps, they probably trust you to do that move implicitly, which is why Kane has Tombstone rights.
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Hey, it's not his fault Hogan has 24 inch pythons, brother
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Nov 21, 2014 20:10
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I haven't been keeping up with WWE; has Orton used the Punt Kick again?
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Nov 21, 2014 20:29
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Smoking Crow posted:It's because Taker is super trustworthy. Also, he's so good at the tombstone that it's basically impossible for him to hurt you http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwHgqQYlGWQ Except for this first guy . . .
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Halloween Jack posted:I haven't been keeping up with WWE; has Orton used the Punt Kick again? He's teased it a lot more this year but hasn't connected it in a while.
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Halloween Jack posted:I haven't been keeping up with WWE; has Orton used the Punt Kick again? That one was banned I think in 09 after Randy nearly punted Vince's head off.
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Halloween Jack posted:I haven't been keeping up with WWE; has Orton used the Punt Kick again? He punted Big Show at last year's Survivor Series. It's way more rare though.
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bradzilla posted:That one was banned I think in 09 after Randy nearly punted Vince's head off. And Vince was still happy with the segment, even if he did get concussed.
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Smoking Crow posted:Greg Valentine Please dont troll
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I think the crucifix powerbomb / Razor's Edge is banned too, right? That's why Sheamus randomly stopped doing it.
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Piper never won either heavyweight belt either.
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I don't think they do running powerbombs much anymore either.
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Also the front suplex whip is banned by most wrestling companies because it's one of if not the most dangerous moves you can do. Basically you stand front to front with the other guy, do a double arm lift and throw them over your head backwards. If you do it right they land in a sort of somersault position and take the hit on their upper back, if you do it wrong they land on their shoulders/neck and shatter their spine. It's a loving awesome looking move but very few people can pull it off. Gangrel did a modified tiger suplex sometimes, but the tiger is basically a safer version of the whip since the whip requires you to throw the other guy and the toss is where you get that career ending botch.
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Smoking Crow posted:Junkyard Dog and Greg Valentine as well This is the weirdest post ever posted.
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El Estrago Bonito posted:Also the front suplex whip is banned by most wrestling companies because it's one of if not the most dangerous moves you can do. Basically you stand front to front with the other guy, do a double arm lift and throw them over your head backwards. If you do it right they land in a sort of somersault position and take the hit on their upper back, if you do it wrong they land on their shoulders/neck and shatter their spine. It's a loving awesome looking move but very few people can pull it off. Gangrel did a modified tiger suplex sometimes, but the tiger is basically a safer version of the whip since the whip requires you to throw the other guy and the toss is where you get that career ending botch.
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