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nsaP posted:http://www1.skysports.com/f1/report/22058/9538348/what-was-said-when-lewis-hamilton-quit-mclaren-to-join-mercedes “Lewis Hamilton does not know much about racing history and so cannot learn from the mistakes of others. Perhaps he thinks that if it fails he will at least have the consolation of earning loads more money and being a bigger star, thanks to his hustling management that will sell his image here, there and everywhere. That might make him an international celebrity on a bigger scale than he is, but it will not make him a racing legend. Perhaps Mercedes will pull it off and then Hamilton will look clever, but I fear that this will be a move similar to James Hunt joining Wolf; Emerson Fittipaldi joining Fittipaldi, Jacques Villeneuve moving to BAR or Niki Lauda’s ill-fated move to Brabham. History relates that you do not leave a winning team in F1 unless it is to go to another proven winner…” - JJoc*
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If you guys are looking for some racing to watch in the offseason I would recommend Supercross. Things I like more than F1:
Things I don't like more than F1:
A good 5 part documentary done by CBS sports last year: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9axdB5A0YfA
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Ferrari's so bad they're begging Aldo Costa to come back.
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dreesemonkey posted:
Implying there is a good Bernie.
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Riso posted:Implying there is a good Bernie.
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Riso posted:The 2014 Ferrari's main problem is not even close to being the aero. It's the ridiculously weak and small power unit. Yes but the intention with the weak tiny power unit was to get better gains with aero. Somebody sat down at Ferrari, crunched the aero and engine data and thought this was a brilliant idea. And after years of them being nowhere with aero and them even struggling to correlate the data from the Toyota wind tunnel to on track data nobody thought to raise the point that maybe they don't know what they're talking about and this small engine idea could be a bust. Ferrari's main problem is a personnel problem.
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Riso posted:Implying there is a good Bernie.
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1500quidporsche posted:
Ferrari's main problem is that they've forgotten how to cheat. McLaren, then Brawn, then Red Bull and now Mercedes. They've all bent the rules and/or broken them to their advantage whilst Ferrari have kept their noses clean. Ferrari used to be a disgrace because of their cheating and whining. Now they are just a disgrace because they are poo poo.
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1500quidporsche posted:Ferrari's main problem is a personnel problem. Fire the Italians
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you guys are going to cry a lot when #ferrarfinger picks up every title from 2015 to 2025 #vlessed
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the problem is noone gives a poo poo if ferrari wins anymore RBR is the new F1 posterboy and gets the rules bent on it's whim. Ferrari aren't being spoonfed wins anymore
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I give a poo poo because Ferrari is the most incredibly good and cool team in the history of motorsport.
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Alain Post posted:I give a poo poo because Ferrari is the most incredibly good and cool team in the history of motorsport. no thats sebastian vettle
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Riso posted:Implying there is a good Bernie. Hey man, Bernie says think before you drive!
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captainOrbital posted:Hey man, Bernie says think before you drive! I wish Bernie would think about driving off a bridge.
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I really do wonder when (if?) Vettel is going to win another championship. Heck, a race win?
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Falken posted:I really do wonder when (if?) Vettel is going to win another championship. The way things are going you should be wondering when he's going to get points.
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Alain Post posted:I give a poo poo because Ferrari is the most incredibly good and cool team in the history of motorsport.
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1500quidporsche posted:The way things are going you should be wondering when he's going to get points. He should be worrying about beating Kimi first.
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Ferrari is the most vile wretched team in history of sports now paired up with the worst driver and it's going to be tasty when they continue their horrible streak next year.
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Ghost of Mussolini posted:you guys are going to cry a lot when #ferrarfinger picks up every title from 2015 to 2025
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Gmaz posted:Ferrari is the most vile wretched team in history of sports now paired up with the worst driver and it's going to be tasty when they continue their horrible streak next year. Now I know why they call this the worst thread!!!
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Here's an interesting thought, a few years ago the Ferrari factory was picked as the nicest place to work in Europe by some business magazine. Why is it so lovely to work for the race team, then?
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Brainwrong posted:Ferrari's main problem is that they've forgotten how to cheat. McLaren, then Brawn, then Red Bull and now Mercedes. They've all bent the rules and/or broken them to their advantage whilst Ferrari have kept their noses clean. Pretty much, Kimi's WDC was the last of their cheating that worked
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What interests me most about Mattiacci leaving is how it could have any bearing on Vettel. Ostensibly he would have made promises and guarantees to Vettel in order to lure him over from Red Bull, which his replacement might not care about upholding, much like how Mattiacci didn't care about taking Alonso's poo poo when he replaced Domenicali. I've heard from some places that their 2015 car is looking to be even worse than the 2014 one so it's gonna be real interesting how that affects things if that's the case next year.
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I think we can clearly say in advance that Ferrari's poor results will entirely be Vettel's fault.
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it sucks that vettle will have an excuse other than being poo poo
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be nice wicka posted:that's loving hilarious. ferrari are great. revolving door of mediocre italian businessmen. last time ferrari were good they were run by a frenchman and a brit. hmmmmmmmmmm This is so 100% true. I've been saying this since Todt left - they're hosed until they can get rid of all the under-qualified Italians that Montezemolo hired simply because they're Italian.
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So much racism ITT. Being Italian isn't a crime. 
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I hate Are Dan now.
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aredan grin cant overcome the RBR uniform
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I'm conflicted because I hate Horner, but love Dan.
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"Ferrari is the soul of F1" - Senna.
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Human Grand Prix posted:"Ferrari is the soul of F1" - Senna. "I want to keep my options open if this williams thing doesnt pan out" - Sennas Internal monologue when he said that dumb poo poo.
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Human Grand Prix posted:"Ferrari is the soul of F1" - Senna. Bernie has no soul.
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Dubs posted:the problem is noone gives a poo poo if ferrari wins anymore RBR F1: Bending rules like front wings
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MattD1zzl3 posted:"I want to keep my options open if this williams thing doesnt pan out" - Sennas Internal monologue when he said that dumb poo poo. Well, he was right about Williams.
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RALF posted:Not that I doubt that next year's Ferrari will be loving terrible (because that sounds likely), but does anyone have any links to leaks/rumors/theories regarding this? The Axis of Oversteer post I linked earlier. And Axis is a pretty hardcore tifosi, he's not one to talk Maranello down unless there's something there.
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Wirth1000 posted:lol http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2014/11/mattiaci-leaves-ferrari-as-arrivabene-arrives-to-spearhead-revival/ "Italians work wonders when they get their u know what kicked and literally strive when they’re close to the precipice." Lol.
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