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Buck Turgidson posted:Apparently Noodlers nibs are a little too thick to fit in the Jinhao pens. They are thicker than the nibs from Goulet or the stock Jinhao nibs. Well, I personally had no problems jamming a Noodler's flex in an X750, gave it to my dad and he loves it. Guess there might be some variation if you're saying it may be too thick.
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Remora posted:"Lever action"? Can I ask how much you know about fountain pens in general? Listen, sonny, I was grinding the bones of peasants to make paper before you were born. Erm... you're right to wonder what I know. Relatively little. I know a lot about art materials but as fountain pens not generally thought to be drawing implements, they kind of fell off my radar. blowfish posted:His parents' generation might have still bought them so it's not unrealistic. I think they did and I haven't explored the World of Pens in my adult life so I wouldn't know the usual terminology.
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In that case, since you live in a Tiny Country, and you appear to be concerned about the handfeel of the pen, I would advise just going to a pen shop and groping some pens. This website appears to be a list of Stipula dealers in the UK, I'd go to one of them and grope a Stipula Splash since A) you really don't want a Noodler's pen as your first (or second) pen, and B) that's the only non-insane flex pen I know of. It uses bottled ink, which is not only cheaper than cartridges but gives you many many more options for your inks. I would normally namedrop a few cheaper pens here, but after a quick test of my own, they really have minimal line variation. If they have one, try a Metro, since it looks like that has the best line variation of my cheap pens (lol as if I have any other kind). Fountain pens nowadays don't really have much in the way of "joints," that's what really caught my eye
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Remora posted:In that case, since you live in a Tiny Country, and you appear to be concerned about the handfeel of the pen, I would advise just going to a pen shop and groping some pens. This website appears to be a list of Stipula dealers in the UK, I'd go to one of them and grope a Stipula Splash since A) you really don't want a Noodler's pen as your first (or second) pen, and B) that's the only non-insane flex pen I know of. It uses bottled ink, which is not only cheaper than cartridges but gives you many many more options for your inks. According to reviews, the Stipula Splash is kind of crappy so you might as well get a Noodlers pen for flexing instead. If you're willing to save up some more, a Pilot 742 with the FA nib is pretty much the high mark of currently available flex pens excluding ~artisanal~ Italian pens for $500 or more. Amazon UK link (you might be charged by customs so it's probably going to be about 150 pounds total). suck my woke dick fucked around with this message at 21:44 on Nov 24, 2014 |
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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if the Stipula is kind of crappy then yeah nevermind. Unless you're really jonesing to blow what is GBP150 in Jesusbucks over $200 on a pen, Noodler's is your Or you might get one that just works super right out of the box. Who the gently caress knows. I own five Noodler's pens, so clearly I have decided I like them, but jesus gently caress they're really inconsistent. \/\/\/\/\/ edit: ew, aerometric fill Remora fucked around with this message at 22:48 on Nov 24, 2014 |
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Or you could try something like this: http://www.peytonstreetpens.com/wri...bs-new-nos.html
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It looks like the stipula can't be disassembled to allow for fully flushing all of the bits, so the converter is kind of permanently attached. Which isn't necessarily a bad thing, it just means it will be more tedious to clean it.
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NeurosisHead posted:It looks like the stipula can't be disassembled to allow for fully flushing all of the bits, so the converter is kind of permanently attached. Which isn't necessarily a bad thing, it just means it will be more tedious to clean it. Wait, it's not even a crappy piston pen?
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blowfish posted:Wait, it's not even a crappy piston pen? It's a piston-filler If anyone knows where I can get a grip section for a burgundy Parker 21 for a non-ridiculous price lemme know, yeah?
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As I live in a Tiny Country, I think the best thing is for me to find a specialist shop and see if it stocks your suggestions. I know a lot of people look in shops then buy online to save cash but I Consider That Not To Be Cricket, so I will try to buy from the shop too. Any particular suggestions for models?
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Josef K. Sourdust posted:As I live in a Tiny Country, I think the best thing is for me to find a specialist shop and see if it stocks your suggestions. I know a lot of people look in shops then buy online to save cash but I Consider That Not To Be Cricket, so I will try to buy from the shop too. Any particular suggestions for models? Please make sure not to buy from a shop that only carries medium nibbed pens and has removed finer/broader nibs from its line. Make sure to try out different sizes because medium nibs are probably too broad for small notetaking/everyday writing on mediocre paper, but they also too thin if you just want a pen for impressive-looking signatures. Shops that just carry medium (especially when they're part of a big chain that can definitely afford to carry more nib sizes) are a disappointment, since the whole point of going to a pen shop is to try pens until you find one that fits your hand and has a nib you really like. e: 99% of pen shops outside Japan including online shops will not carry any of the better Pilot pens. Next to no pen shop that you can actually walk into will carry Noodlers pens. Don't feel bad about getting these online in any case. suck my woke dick fucked around with this message at 10:08 on Nov 25, 2014 |
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/\/\/\/\ I would also say that Noodler's pen's are exactly what you're looking for, except they are absolutely a tinkerer's pen. If you want something the writes perfectly out of the box they're terrible for your needs. If you want a pen that you treat like the carb on your first Chevelle so you sometimes manually adjust it at red lights, it's a great fun pen that writes great and is cheap as poo poo.blowfish posted:Wait, it's not even a crappy piston pen? It is a piston fill, but the piston is part of the body itself. So you have to fill and dump it a billion times to get it clean. Does anyone here know of a dot grid lined, fountain pen friendly, top spiral bound notebook? The Rhodia dotpad paper is tits, but MY GIRLFRIEND would prefer a top spiral bind over a top staple bind.
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/\/\/\/\/\ Edit: Noodler's lists exactly one dealer in the UK, yeah.
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NeurosisHead posted:It is a piston fill, but the piston is part of the body itself. So you have to fill and dump it a billion times to get it clean. ...then it's a normal piston pen. If the piston is a removable plug in part, then it's a converter pen. Piston pens are objectively* better than converter pens in every way  *subjectively quote:Does anyone here know of a dot grid lined, fountain pen friendly, top spiral bound notebook? The Rhodia dotpad paper is tits, but MY GIRLFRIEND would prefer a top spiral bind over a top staple bind. Clairefontaine pads.
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NeurosisHead posted:Does anyone here know of a dot grid lined, fountain pen friendly, top spiral bound notebook? The Rhodia dotpad paper is tits, but MY GIRLFRIEND would prefer a top spiral bind over a top staple bind. Maruman makes a bunch of these under the Mnemosyne name, I think. Jetpens will almost certainly have 'em.
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grack posted:If anyone knows where I can get a grip section for a burgundy Parker 21 for a non-ridiculous price lemme know, yeah? eBay has a bunch of old Parker FPs that are sold for repairs/as parts and I'd set up saved search to save time. Not like I'm kinda obsessed w/FPs or anything. Oh and FPN/FPG have classifieds where you can set up WTB ads and so far I've had good luck w/finding certain items there.
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Alder posted:eBay has a bunch of old Parker FPs that are sold for repairs/as parts and I'd set up saved search to save time. Not like I'm kinda obsessed w/FPs or anything. Yeah, the problem is when I look at those place I invariably see the parts I want/need being sold for ~$30-$40, which is way more than I'm interested in spending.
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My Falcon (fine nib) + Fuyu-syogun arrived! Yay! This pen is classy as hell. It's a little "scratchy" compared to my Faber Loom (which is broader but still a Fine nib) but nothing terrible. It doesn't feel buttery smooth but rather very delicate and light. It's very responsive to pressure, which is probably going to help me use less pressure in the long run. And the ink looks great. It really changes character going from wet to dry, much more blueish when it's fresh but then settles into a nice gray colour. strangemusic fucked around with this message at 21:44 on Nov 25, 2014 |
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I love Fuyu-syogun. I think I'll load a pen up with it next time I'm cleaning out and filling up because it's been a while since I used it.
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Is there a current production pen that writes similar to an esterbrook 9550 (posting nib)? I like the super-fine line it makes while also being smooth and relatively dry. The closest I've tried are pilot pens, but they seem a bit wider and lay down a lot more ink in my experience. I'd use the esterbrook more, but I think the pen body is too short and lever filling is kind of a hassle.
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grack posted:It's a piston-filler Is your 21 a super? If it's not, richardspens.com sells hood/nib/collector units for and just the hoods for $8. They're all red, but the combined units look kind of burgundy to me. If you're patient, you can usually find a junk P21 on eBay for less than $20. I purchased my 21 super for $11, and it was even restorable.
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gwrtheyrn posted:Is there a current production pen that writes similar to an esterbrook 9550 (posting nib)? I like the super-fine line it makes while also being smooth and relatively dry. The closest I've tried are pilot pens, but they seem a bit wider and lay down a lot more ink in my experience. I'd use the esterbrook more, but I think the pen body is too short and lever filling is kind of a hassle. Platinum 3776 with UEF nib? It's literally a needle point that you could stab your finger with.
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Lord Girlyman posted:Is your 21 a super? Thanks, I'll keep an eye on those sites. Also, couple of beauties showed up from an eBay purchase today. A Hero 200A and Wing Sung 400 with 14k nibs. The Hero is near mint, the Wing Sung is unused. Got 'em for the princely sum of $20 shipped for both. Time to bust out the sugarcane paper.
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grack posted:Thanks, I'll keep an eye on those sites. Do they write?
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FAUXTON posted:Do they write? They both write great. The Wing Sung needed some work on the nib, though.
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The higher end Chinese pens can be a little surprising. One of my smoothest writers is a Hero 1000. It's really solidly built as well; it'll outlast a lot of my other modern pens. In other news, I'll probably be using this holiday to process some of my restoration backlog from the past year. I have a Sheaffer 444 and a pair of fleamarket P45s that all need my loving attention. I like spending my precious free time scrubbing things with a tiny brush.
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blowfish posted:Platinum 3776 with UEF nib? It's literally a needle point that you could stab your finger with. Thanks, I'll try to pick one of those up in the near future
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Brian Goulet put out a video today comparing various modern flex/soft nib pens. Noodler's Ahab & Neponset, Pilot Falcon, Stipula Splash, and some $500 Omas pen. I am a little bit interested in the Neponset but ugh @ paying $75 for a Noodler's pen.
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Everything Burrito posted:ugh @ paying $75 for a Noodler's pen. yeah don't do that
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I'd already watched a video review of it before they were available to buy but hadn't looked to see how much they actually cost so when he said "seventy-five dollars" my interest pretty much evaporated. I have a flex Konrad and ended up putting a Goulet nib in it because it was so bad to write with, but part of the appeal his pens have to me is that they're kinda made to take abuse and I was curious as to whether or not that one would write better than the Konrad being as it dumps so much ink out. I actually really like my Konrad with the nib I have in it now but it isn't filling that "crappy steel flex I can mash on as hard as I want" niche anymore.
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Everything Burrito posted:Brian Goulet put out a video today comparing various modern flex/soft nib pens. Noodler's Ahab & Neponset, Pilot Falcon, Stipula Splash, and some $500 Omas pen. I am a little bit interested in the Neponset but ugh @ paying $75 for a Noodler's pen. Pretty simple conclusion: Save the money and buy a Falcon The Stipula really does look like a piece of crap, though.
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grack posted:Pretty simple conclusion: Save the money and buy a Falcon Friendly reminder: Pilot Falcon is a soft nib *not* semi-flex. Not towards anyone in particular but I got tired of people saying it's not really all that flexible which is the main point 
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For maximum weird resin smell, you could go for an Indian flex pen from Fountain Pen Revolution. I purchased a giant eyedropper from them that has become one of my favorite pens. Despite Noodler's pens being from India and all that, I've had much better luck with Airmail/Wality pens writing out of the box. That could be because FPR cleans them thoroughly. FPR is having a 50% off sale for a bunch of their Airmail pens. You could pair one of those with one of their flex nibs and go nuts.
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Instead of spending 75 dollars on a pen likely to be poo poo, send your real pen in to Mottishaw for a flex mod at 65 dollars. You'll be happier.
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Lord Girlyman posted:For maximum weird resin smell, you could go for an Indian flex pen from Fountain Pen Revolution. I purchased a giant eyedropper from them that has become one of my favorite pens. This but also for asapens. I got an ebonite and they threw in an acrylic for free. The acrylic has a really funky smell. Still has after over a week. It writes VERY well now, but it really needed a detergent flush at first
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Luisfe posted:The acrylic has a really funky smell. Still has after over a week. It writes VERY well now, but it really needed a detergent flush at first I've been experimenting with getting rid of that smell. It does dissipate over time, but I'd kind of like to use my pen outside of the house without my desk smelling like vomit. Taking the pen apart and letting it air out in a place with good airflow is making a noticeable difference. I'll likely try to expose it to some sunlight, seeing as those vegetable resins that they use for caps/sections cure in UV.
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Recommendations on an ink that's resistant to nib creep? One of the Chinese 14k nib pens I got writes beautifully but the creep is horrendous.
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grack posted:Recommendations on an ink that's resistant to nib creep? I don't think that's possible as isn't it just something to do w/the FP itself though? I don't notice as you might be able avoid it by keeping your FPs upright in case.
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Alder posted:I don't think that's possible as isn't it just something to do w/the FP itself though? I don't notice as you might be able avoid it by keeping your FPs upright in case. Less "wet" inks tend to be more resistant to creep. I normally use Quink as it's quite well behaved, but this pen seems defeat even that. Or it's possible that the pen cap is creating suction when I take it off but this is an excuse to buy more ink.
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I actually really like nib creep. I think it looks good. Does anyone know when the annual limited edition Lamy Safaris and Al-Stars get released? I gave my Al-Star away to spread the fountain pen sickness and it feels weird to not have at least a safari in my collection. The current ones don't really appeal; unfortunately they discounted the 2013 black AL-star.
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