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Baby Babbeh posted:Yeah, the reason I'm on Strattera instead of Ritalin is that my blood pressure was already in the pre-hypertensive range and my doctors were a little concerned that the stimulants were pushing me over the edge. It sucks because I'm not entirely happy with the Strattera (It doesn't seem to work as well and there are the afformentioned sexual side effects) Now I'm taking a medication for blood pressure and also trying to lose weight, and things are trending in the right direction. My psyche says that if I can get my blood pressure under control consistently I can go back on the stimulant meds. Yeah I am not fond of the strattera at all. Since upping my dosage to 80mg a day I have been left with this feeling as if someone has kicked me in the balls as hard as they can. This combined with the relative ineffectiveness that it seems to have leaves me really thinking I should just drop it until I can get back in for an appointment.
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Strattera is kind of weird. I don't really feel much in the way of effects, but when they did the self-reporting test thing that they do I was actually slightly better on my inattentive symptoms than on Ritalin. (Which, admittedly, I was on way to low a dose of, due to blood pressure again). But I'm not sure how much of that is the drug and how much is the therapy and coping mechanisms I've put into place since starting treatment. The only thing I can say that recommends it over stimulants is there's not really a crash the way there was with instant release Ritalin.
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Yeah I am going to ask to be moved off it, since increasing in dosage some really weird poo poo is happening and its not getting better. Aside from the ball pain I am just having some odd issues that all started with the increased dosage. Going to see if I can get in earlier to speak to my guy about it. *edit* Sweet, got my appointment moved from next wednesday to today. It totally feels like someone has drop kicked me in the nuts. *edit* Ive been placed on Dex instead and the strattera has been ceased due to side affects and not having any real effect considering the side affects. I wont know dosage for a while as it takes a few days just to get the script apparently. insidius fucked around with this message at 06:34 on Nov 20, 2014 |
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Ball pain TMIchat: I often find my balls hurting if I'm overly tense (moreso than usual), so maybe you're like me and the pain is a result of increased muscular tension or something. Certainly a possibility with ADHD meds. Conversations with doctors get loving weird sometimes. "Hey doc, these meds are alright but they make my heart vibrate and my balls ache. Is this normal y/n" Angry Diplomat fucked around with this message at 15:51 on Nov 20, 2014 |
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so, I was just prescribed Adderall and was wondering how am I suppose to feel on it. I was told to take 5mg in the morning and 5mg before 2pm or 10mg for the whole day. I tried 5mg yesterday and didnt feel any different so i took 10mg today in the morning and I dont think i feel any diference either. Should I give it a few more days and call the doc or just continue until my follow up appointment in 3 weeks?
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DaRandomGuy posted:so, I was just prescribed Adderall and was wondering how am I suppose to feel on it. I was told to take 5mg in the morning and 5mg before 2pm or 10mg for the whole day. I tried 5mg yesterday and didnt feel any different so i took 10mg today in the morning and I dont think i feel any diference either. Should I give it a few more days and call the doc or just continue until my follow up appointment in 3 weeks?
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Cardiovorax posted:The typical Adderall starting dosage for adults is 20mg. It only goes up from there, so dont't be too disappointed if you don't get any results with that amount. Starting with 5mg is more typical for children under ten years old. That's not necessarily true, my doctor also started me at 5 & 5 and then moved to 10, 5 & 5. I am also not a child under ten years old.
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copper rose petal posted:That's not necessarily true, my doctor also started me at 5 & 5 and then moved to 10, 5 & 5. I am also not a child under ten years old. It is USUALLY a lot safer to start small and work your way up rather than start HIGH and have to cut back. I think this is a pretty standard practice.
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Cardiovorax posted:The typical Adderall starting dosage for adults is 20mg. It only goes up from there, so dont't be too disappointed if you don't get any results with that amount. Starting with 5mg is more typical for children under ten years old. I started at 5, now I take 10 & 10 or 10, 5, 5 depending on how I want to space it out. 20mg at once is a bit too intense.
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OssiansFolly posted:It is USUALLY a lot safer to start small and work your way up rather than start HIGH and have to cut back. I think this is a pretty standard practice. Looks like one of my former doctors had strange habits as they would start at max and then lower if I had side effects  Anyone else noticing, apart from lack of appetite as I mentioned prior, how food has a slight metallic taste and overall less appetizing? I found out I really prefer eating bland/simple meals and crackers. There are days as I eat series of small snacks instead of normal meal times and I feel OK. I'm not really more tired or anything but wondering if this is a something I should be concerned about? Thanks.
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DaRandomGuy posted:so, I was just prescribed Adderall and was wondering how am I suppose to feel on it. I was told to take 5mg in the morning and 5mg before 2pm or 10mg for the whole day. I tried 5mg yesterday and didnt feel any different so i took 10mg today in the morning and I dont think i feel any diference either. Should I give it a few more days and call the doc or just continue until my follow up appointment in 3 weeks? Adderall doesn't really 'feel' like anything, or at least it doesn't for me. Just try to keep at your routine and measure effectiveness by what you're accomplishing. I also started on 5mg and my first day I was thinking, "so... is this working?" But I wound up having a really great day at work, and though I was suspicious of it being a placebo effect (and maybe a little bit of it was) I figured whatever the reason, as long as I was productive while on the meds I'd keep at it. You'll notice more of a feeling when you've been taking it for a while and then come off it and try to work. You can still be lazy and procrastinate while on Adderall (because you don't have to have ADHD to be lazy and procrastinate) but in time you will definitely notice the difference between "I don't really feel like doing this" that everybody gets sometimes and that overwhelming "oh gently caress this" urge to just get up out of your chair and get into your car and drive someplace more exciting that's coming from your ADHD.
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You'll definitely learn to recognize the difference once you've been medicated for a while and then run out of pills for some reason. I ran out on friday and haven't had time to get a new script yet and let me tell you, it's not fun. Not physically uncomfortable in the sense that withdrawal of some SSRIs is, but you stop appreciating just how nice being able to sit still and not have your eyes slide off the page whenever you try to read something is, until you get reminded what it was like.
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When not on Adderall I work differently. I'll see an email, read it, start typing a response but get distracted by another email that just came in and start reading that. Then out of the blue I'll remember there's a server I need to check on that's rebooting, then I'll start looking through the server logs from last week with that other application problem. Suddenly, I'll remember that email I didn't finish start working on that then remember one of my co-workers just got back from vacation and I should see how it went. When I'm on Adderall, I'll start doing stuff like this but I'll notice more often that I'm getting distracted and stay on one thing at a time. I'm also never hungry, any kind of minor noise pisses me off immensely and I'm more of a emotionless rear end in a top hat.
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Aside from just being able to get poo poo done, the big difference when I'm on Adderall is that if I'm unmedicated, I find it completely impossible to do work (however slowly) without music or a video or something going on in the background, while if I'm medicated I find those things really annoying and distracting and would rather just focus on the work itself. It even extends to stuff like going to the gym, unmedicated I HAVE to be listening to my ipod or I'll get bored and leave, medicated I find the music overstimulating and leave it at home. Stuff like going to noisy bars which I normally already don't like, becomes 100% unbearable if I'm still feeling the effects of my meds. Mechafunkzilla fucked around with this message at 21:40 on Nov 24, 2014 |
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This is a long shot, but does anyone know when 20MG Focalin XR generic will be available? The 15 and the 30 is already out, so is the 40, but I do pretty well on the 20mg dose. I think Teva has first rights to it, but I can't find anything about it anywhere. Tab8715 posted:I'm also never hungry, any kind of minor noise pisses me off immensely and I'm more of a emotionless rear end in a top hat. I tried Adderall instead of Focalin for about 5 days and stopped immediately. Adderall made me super horny, and super loving angry. I almost lost my poo poo on my kids one day and that was the end of Adderall. Yeah I could focus a little better on the Adderall, but all I was focusing on was porn and whacking it constantly. It also turned my temper into a hair trigger which isn't good when you have 2 kids under 5.
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I guess I never had that problem. I never got angry to point where I couldn't control my anger but I felt more agitated by small interruptions that wouldn't typically bother me.
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Alder posted:Looks like one of my former doctors had strange habits as they would start at max and then lower if I had side effects I don't think it was the adderall, but yeah, my meds made me taste metal for about a week. It was scary, but ultimately harmless The weird thing for me is that when unmedicated, I need music or noise all the time otherwise I can't think clearly, but when I'm taking my meds I get so distracted by the things that used to focus my brain that I need quiet to work right. It's frustrating to have all the strategies I learned to get things done make it harder to work, but I got my first A in a class since sophomore year of high school, so I'm going to have to just deal with it haha E: hell, I figured out why I loved lifting so much before I got treated. I wanted to go to sleep early, so I didn't take my last two doses of adderall that day, but still went to the gym. As soon as the loud music and physical exertion mixed, my cloudy head cleared up and I could think like I had taken half my normal dose of adderall. Thankfully that obsession stayed when I got on meds and I'm fitting back into all of my clothes again The Door Frame fucked around with this message at 00:03 on Nov 25, 2014 |
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Tab8715 posted:When not on Adderall I work differently. Holy poo poo its my life. Its like a big shiny mirror. I start my new line of medication today and I am pretty anxious to see how it goes, I get this feeling lately creeping into my brain that goes along the lines of "What if the medication never works and I am like this forever". Its probably inaccurate but its hard not to feel stressed at times.
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Tab8715 posted:I guess I never had that problem. I never got angry to point where I couldn't control my anger but I felt more agitated by small interruptions that wouldn't typically bother me. I had that when I was a kid, I got super loving irritable on Adderal, to the point of pushing a friend out of her treehouse and breaking up that friendship. I hope if I go back on it that side effect doesn't happen---I have a bad enough temper anyway.
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No prescription for me today, something went wrong with the authority apparently and its going to take an extra day. Ah well, its probably for the best.
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Astrofig posted:I had that when I was a kid, I got super loving irritable on Adderal, to the point of pushing a friend out of her treehouse and breaking up that friendship. I hope if I go back on it that side effect doesn't happen---I have a bad enough temper anyway. Did you basically try to kill someone by shoving them out of a tree house? Lmao. Was it real high and they broke bones and poo poo? People do things like attempted homicide and blame minor dosages of adhd medicine. No man you pushed a friend out of a tree house because you're probably a psychotic piece of poo poo. Post details please.
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Astrofig posted:I can't tell if you're being serious or not. I don't remember how badly she was hurt, actually. How high up was the house? How old were you? What did you think or feel about kicking a friend out of a tree house? It sounds like you could've killed or crippled them. I'm curious because it sounds crazy.
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Astrofig posted:I had that when I was a kid, I got super loving irritable on Adderal, to the point of pushing a friend out of her treehouse and breaking up that friendship. I hope if I go back on it that side effect doesn't happen---I have a bad enough temper anyway. Adderall shouldn't make you that irritable. Well, adhd meds in general shouldn't. If you feel yourself starting to get back into that though you might want to look into a bipolar diagnoses. There's a few mental disorders like that where you don't really want to be taking stimulants since they interact really poorly. You'd want to get into anger management first to be honest. There's no reason you shouldn't be already if you have an adhd diagnoses since emotional issues are pretty common.
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Horrible Smutbeast posted:Adderall shouldn't make you that irritable. Well, adhd meds in general shouldn't. If you feel yourself starting to get back into that though you might want to look into a bipolar diagnoses. There's a few mental disorders like that where you don't really want to be taking stimulants since they interact really poorly. Yeah honestly I'm less irritable on adderall than ever. I sort of groove and flow my focus to whatever is important at the time but always cache tasks and timelines in my memory unlike before when I'd forget. I still dislike mundane repetitive tasks so I welcome interruptions sometimes. The feeling of control and competence adderall or vyvanse enables on daily life has improved my mood considerably since I am living much less like a careless gently caress up slob. Impulsive violent behavior isn't gonna be pulled out of thin air by typical adderall dosages. Sounds like a dude who would snort half his prescription in a day beat his wife shank a hobo and blame pharmaceuticals instead of meaningful introspection and evaluation of personal triggers and self improvement.. or anti psychotics. Real talk a lot of goons could use a therapist instead of another prescription and more personal responsibility. The adderall didn't make you attempt to murder an innocent out of blind rage you idiot it was your fault. Figure out why.
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It's not going to make you irritable but any kind of psycho-stimulant may potentially increase or decrease certain feelings such as anger, sadness, depression, etc For the record, I took the lowest dose? I think at one point I started splitting my pills in two. This had all the focus benefits without feeling cracked out.
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Horrible Smutbeast posted:Adderall shouldn't make you that irritable. Well, adhd meds in general shouldn't. If you feel yourself starting to get back into that though you might want to look into a bipolar diagnoses. There's a few mental disorders like that where you don't really want to be taking stimulants since they interact really poorly. Yeah, actually I just recently got diagnosed bipolar, so that might have something to do with it. Smoothrich posted:How high up was the house? How old were you? What did you think or feel about kicking a friend out of a tree house? It sounds like you could've killed or crippled them. I'm curious because it sounds crazy. And it was about normal treehouse-height. I don't think she was seriously hurt but in hindsight she could have been. I really regret that.
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Tab8715 posted:When I'm on Adderall, I'll start doing stuff like this but I'll notice more often that I'm getting distracted and stay on one thing at a time. True, I just notice I'm zoning out faster than normal on boring tasks and try to avoid it too often during work. The 2nd part is also me despite being a true pacifist and peaceful citizen 95% of the time. For example, I never noticed how much I hated the music in Starbucks or if I had quite the strong negative reaction to Christian radio stations until new Rx. Oh, and I tried warning my friends/family if I seem to be "upset" about a minor issue then it's not personal instead it could be side effect and I don't actually want to burn the world down. Still not a good idea to provoke me during those times to see if I'm really as angry as I look and telling anyone: "Calm Down" never works out great. The Door Frame posted:The weird thing for me is that when unmedicated, I need music or noise all the time otherwise I can't think clearly, but when I'm taking my meds I get so distracted by the things that used to focus my brain that I need quiet to work right. For me complete silence e.g. library is preferred or even ambient noise if I can't somehow get away from the traffic/conversations. Riding public transportation is hell because I can't just get up and run out the subway train because SOMEONE wanted to start a 90 min conversation during the afternoon commute home. If I seriously need to complete dense reading I won't listen to music and anything distracts me even if it's just someone walking up the stairs or talking on the phone a few doors down. Dorm life was a pain.
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I have not started my new treatment yet but I do find this fascinating. My ADHD was caught largely as a child due to my quite angry outbursts and inability to sit still for more than five minutes, I could go seemingly from being a regular person to just completely snapping. The issue was however is the anger would last for all of 3-5 minutes and then it was like it never occurred. I was not capable of holding any long term angry thoughts or grudges. I was diagnosed and placed on a large dosage of Dex at which point I greatly stabilised. The logic at the time was that my anger came out of frustration at being unable to concentrate or pay attention along with the rest of the class which would lead to boredom which would lead to frustration which would lead to anger. Now however I read here that many seem to have far more issues with anger on the medication than without. I wonder if I will react differently as an adult. I still have anger issues now but they are not so much anger as they are frustration and its at the strangest things. Mostly odd noises like doors creaking, or a repeated audible annoyance and even then its not anger its just a sort of frustration that increases until I stop whatever it is making the noise or I move away from it. Its mostly because while ever that sound that is annoying me exists I can not focus on anything else until its resolved. It eats away at my brain as a continual distraction, I just cant block it out.
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Yeah, adderall doesn't seem to help me not be distracted, it seems to just make it easier for me to pay attention to things that are distracting, if that makes any sense...
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@insidius: It's a bit of a surprise each time how certain Rx affects him/her. Although, if it does cause extreme rage it probably would be a good idea to tell doctors beforehand otherwise it might be a bad kind of surprise for everyone involved  Apparently, you don't always need to take ADHD Rx *all* the time unless you happen to be working on that day? Is this new? Out of all my exp, doctors have warned me suddenly discontinuing Rx might cause instability in my actions and/or thoughts. Are they saying I can take it any time I feel like it?
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I only took my adderall during the work week mostly because I'm concerned about gaining a tolerance. It works wonders and I'd hate to see that go away.
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Well I got my script, seems to be a low dosage to start. 5MG in the morning and 5MG at lunch. I am really hoping this works unlike the strattera. Ill start my course tomorrow with some fresh sleep and organisation and see where it goes.
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DaRandomGuy posted:good luck! Im putting everything I can into it. I can not fool myself into believing that my experience is that of everyone but this has been a very large and very taxing part of my life for me that led me to a very dark place depression wise. Since receiving the diagnosis of "No it did not dissapear just because you turned 18" has given me some slight relief with the thought that at some point something may assist in mitigating it. The strattera was hugely ineffectual aside from amazing side affects as "lose weight fast" and "erections, whats an erection?" leaving me initially with the probably quite stupid fear of "what if I am a special unique flower and it never gets better?" I have been working all day redoing my calendar, outlining all the appointments, commitments and tasks I have for the week ahead. I have set a sleep schedule, reinstalled Flux on all my devices to try and get me into bed earlier, the whole nine yards. I am probably going overboard I just sometime have this thought that edges into my head and says "what if it does not work smarty pants, then what" and it scares the hell out of me. TL;DR I really hope this has an impact. Given my reaction as a child which was apparently good, I have faith. Though I was on a much larger dose at the time so we will have to play the wait and see game.
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Throwing this in a new post separate to my rant. Even at such an incredibly small dose, 5MG in the morning and 5MG at lunch this medication is so far life changing. I am actually scared that maybe something is wrong and it is not supposed to work THIS well. Its had such an impact already on my life that to be honest I can not even describe it without going on a huge multi paragraph rant. I am booked in for the psych again this week to see how it goes which should be an interesting day. Compared to the Strattera wow, the effects of this are very obvious. Just to reiterate, I do not fell at all as though I am exaggerating with my choice of the words life changing, it really is just amazing.
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Protip for insomniacs: http://www.sleepwithmepodcast.com/ has the best podcast to play while you're going to sleep. I struggle with racing thoughts when sleep, and listening to this guy talk about nonsense has helped 6/7 times that I've been unable to sleep. Just hyperfocus on his voice and slip into dreamland.
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Astrofig posted:Yeah, actually I just recently got diagnosed bipolar, so that might have something to do with it. There are some people - like me - where even minuscule doses of ADHD meds are going to cause some horrific side effects, to the point where the bad outweighs the good. Generally, there's something else going on if that's the case. I have ADHD - but the only ADHD med I can take is Dexedrine, and then only at an exceedingly low dose. In talking to my Psychiatrist, it turns out that I may also have Autism/Asperger's. Hell, I may have Asperger's *instead* of ADHD. So, basically, you're not alone here in ADHD meds not having the desired effects. Just continue to be open with your doctors about it, and I hope that you can find a solution.
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