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Narcissus1916 posted:There's no way Rocksteady is going to make Origins the lynchpin of Arkham Kinght's big mystery.I also don't buy the whole "He's a new character, no mystery here, muahahah!" song and dance Rocksteady has been doing. Origins is essentially non-canon at this point. They abandoned bugfixing in exchange for rushing the last DLC out, they put it and its season pass on sale for as much as 60% off before Cold Cold Heart even came out, and they refer to Knight as "the final entry in the Arkham trilogy."
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el oso posted:Yeah, I'm really not into the Batmobile combat that they've shown at all. Obviously there could be more to it in the full game but strafe-shoot over and over and over doesn't seem very exciting. It seems to be VERY reminiscent of Halo's tanks in terms of controls and firepower, which doesn't excite me at all.
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Canemacar posted:I thought it was a foregone conclusion. They're offering all kinds of Red Hood(Todd version) stuff like sculptures and DLC for preordering. Wait, wait, wait. What is this about a RH sculpture? I thought the only things was the RH story pack from Gamestop?
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Pirate Jet posted:Origins is essentially non-canon at this point. They abandoned bugfixing in exchange for rushing the last DLC out, they put it and its season pass on sale for as much as 60% off before Cold Cold Heart even came out, and they refer to Knight as "the final entry in the Arkham trilogy." In the Rocksteady trilogy. I'm fairly certain that Rocksteady acknowledged that they considered Origins as a part of the series as it is.
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Canemacar posted:I thought it was a foregone conclusion. They're offering all kinds of Red Hood(Todd version) stuff like sculptures and DLC for preordering. Yeah, that stuff makes me think that too. Pirate Jet posted:Origins is essentially non-canon at this point. They abandoned bugfixing in exchange for rushing the last DLC out, they put it and its season pass on sale for as much as 60% off before Cold Cold Heart even came out, and they refer to Knight as "the final entry in the Arkham trilogy." My steam version got updated the other day with a bunch of bug fixes 
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Nov 25, 2014 15:28
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:In the Rocksteady trilogy. I'm fairly certain that Rocksteady acknowledged that they considered Origins as a part of the series as it is. I talked to one of the developers at E3 and when I mentioned a mechanic that was in Origins he was like "oh, really? How about that" and basically implied he had only cursory knowledge of Origins. I suspect that if they do reference it it isn't going to be anything too specific because the developers barely seemed to care it existed.
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Nov 25, 2014 15:41
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They've definitely been referring to Arkham Knight as "the last in the trilogy" so I don't think they're making any effort to include Origins but I also don't think they'll go out of their way to contradict it out of spite. Anyway, I'm holding out that the Arkham Knight isn't Jason because they've been pushing him as Red Hood so hard. Seems weird to include him as Red Hood and make him the villain of the game as AK.
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Nov 25, 2014 15:53
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ImpAtom posted:I talked to one of the developers at E3 and when I mentioned a mechanic that was in Origins I hope you were just making sure there would be no more Bat-Paramedic cardiac defribulation minigames.
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Nov 25, 2014 15:57
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They've kind of marketed AK as an all new character.
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Nov 25, 2014 15:59
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ToastyPotato posted:They've kind of marketed AK as an all new character. Yeah, but like it was mentioned before, they did the exact same thing for Benedict Cumberbatch in Star Trek. Anything could happen. Personally, I'd love it if there wasn't any twist at all and he IS a brand new character we've never seen before. Hell, even if we don't unmask the Arkham Knight. We get to have Batman see just how drat frustrating it is for the criminals.
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Nov 25, 2014 16:03
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Did they have the people working on that film say how excited they were to add a new, original character to the Star Trek mythos? Because one of the preview videos had an interview that went that far for AK. Going that far for a bait and switch is pretty stupid.
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Nov 25, 2014 16:05
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The Arkham Knight will turn out to be Sin Tzu. 
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Just a reminder, Hideo Kojima literally invented a dev studio with its own lead developer (whose name was an anagram of his) who gave interviews while swathed in bandages as a way to distract people from MGSV. This is after, years before, releasing promo material of MGS2 with the actual player character swapped out for Snake so no one would know what was actually going on. If Arkham Knight's identity turns out to be someone we should know, they'd do well to keep a tight lid on it. If that means outright denying he's a returning character in a new disguise, then that's what they'd do. Misleading consumers so they don't preemptively ruin your product on their own, that's just good marketing strategy.
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Nov 25, 2014 16:10
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Yeah, I definitely agree that AK being a brand spanking new character is a possibility, but until I know for sure, I'm just gonna bank on Todd. I think it fits pretty well with Arkham City and the other stuff we've seen. You guys can think what you want, and you might be right, but I just don't buy it. Mostly because of STID, and MGS2/5.
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Nov 25, 2014 16:26
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If this is supposed to be a trilogy, AK has to have something to do with the previous 2. At least I'd hope.
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Nov 25, 2014 16:31
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Orgophlax posted:If this is supposed to be a trilogy, AK has to have something to do with the previous 2. At least I'd hope. Scarecrow is one of the main villains.
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Nov 25, 2014 16:45
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what if the Arkham Knight....... is Superman?
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mysterious loyall Y posted:what if the Arkham Knight....... is Superman? I think it would be pretty cool for Superman to stop by for a little bit in AK. He could offer to help Batman because poo poo's getting bad, and then Batman can be a total dick in return.
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Nov 25, 2014 16:57
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In all seriousness, I really liked the crime scene rewinds from Origins. I largely disliked the majority of the title, but those "rewind the scene to find clues" mechanics felt very visual and fun.
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Nov 25, 2014 17:01
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The thing about the Arkham Knight is explaining why he has Arkham in his name for any reason other than the meta franchise building one.
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Nov 25, 2014 17:15
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Calling it now - Arkham Knight is Aaron Cash.
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Nov 25, 2014 17:18
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:I hope you were just making sure there would be no more Bat-Paramedic cardiac defribulation minigames. I mentioned how an enemy type was a bit like the Titan thugs. (The new type who charges at you.)
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Mogomra posted:
That doesn't make any sense, because of what happened with just two completely different franchises you think Rocksteady is just lying? At any rate, given the deflated 'oh...' reaction the STID 'twist' it would probably be more boring if he really did turn out to be somebody we all know already, also, remember the general reaction everyone had when it turned out the Joker was the main villain in Origins? I think rocksteady would do well to avoid dumb gimmicks like that at this point.
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Nov 25, 2014 17:28
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Next guess: AK is either a resurrected Amadeus Arkham, or Quincy Sharp. http://arkhamcity.wikia.com/wiki/Spirit_of_Arkham
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The leaks already confirmed that Arkham Knight is Ridley Y'know what kind of annoys me with this kind of extended hype cycle? How you tend to get assets from the same portion of the game over and over again. I mean, I can appreciate not wanting to spoil stuff, but everything so far has looked kinda samey and is kind of letting the air out of my anticipation zeppelin.
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khwarezm posted:That doesn't make any sense, because of what happened with just two completely different franchises you think Rocksteady is just lying? At any rate, given the deflated 'oh...' reaction the STID 'twist' it would probably be more boring if he really did turn out to be somebody we all know already, also, remember the general reaction everyone had when it turned out the Joker was the main villain in Origins? I think rocksteady would do well to avoid dumb gimmicks like that at this point. It doesn't make any sense because I'm mostly joking. (I still think there will be a twist involving the new villain though)
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If anything, I'm expecting Batman to take off the mask and it's the Joker. But then it turns out he's been gassed by Scarecrow and he's just seeing a hallucination.
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:If anything, I'm expecting Batman to take off the mask and it's the Joker. Batman takes off Arkham Knight's mask and it's Bruce Wayne. Turns out you've been playing a mind-controlled Joker the whole time!
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Nov 25, 2014 18:23
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AK is that one freaky Asylum inmate hanging out near Sharpe's office that was based off of some contest winner's likeness.
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Crappy Jack posted:Batman takes off Arkham Knight's mask and it's Bruce Wayne. Turns out you've been playing a mind-controlled Joker the whole time! That'd be pretty crazy, too. I hope that Scarecrow gets to third base with our minds with a lot of segments like that. redbackground posted:AK is that one freaky Asylum inmate hanging out near Sharpe's office that was based off of some contest winner's likeness. That'd be pretty funny. Him being on the Joker's party list never resulted in him being let out of his cell in AA, after all. Then again, Clayface wasn't let out, either.
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:That'd be pretty crazy, too. I really hope we get alot more mindfuckery from the scarecrow. He's so good a character for this situation and i fully hope and expect they don't go near the joker with a 20 ft pole, they really beat that into the ground. I also hope that the scarecrow or the arkham knight storylines don't get railroaded by some dumb super secret reveal like the joker, hugo and city, or the joker, black mask and origins.
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OnimaruXLR posted:The leaks already confirmed that Arkham Knight is Ridley Completely misread this and thought you were saying the Arkham Knight was Riddler.
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OnimaruXLR posted:The leaks already confirmed that Arkham Knight is Ridley Asylum was pretty Metroidvania already, this would just be
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"I'm back, Alfred. Scarecrow tried to sick a Space Dragon on me." "Did you have any trouble, sir?" "  "
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Goddamn. That gameplay blew me away, just like in Asylum and City. Time to go into my traditional exile from watching any and all videos of Knight until I can play the game for myself. So long Batman, I'll see you in 6 months 
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Narcissus1916 posted:In all seriousness, I really liked the crime scene rewinds from Origins. I largely disliked the majority of the title, but those "rewind the scene to find clues" mechanics felt very visual and fun.
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:In the Rocksteady trilogy. No, they specifically keep saying "in the Arkham trilogy." Narcissus1916 posted:In all seriousness, I really liked the crime scene rewinds from Origins. I largely disliked the majority of the title, but those "rewind the scene to find clues" mechanics felt very visual and fun. They were very flashy, but ultimately amounted to just pixel hunts. Kind of like a metaphor for the entirety of Origins itself.
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Origins isn't really meant to be part of the story line of the Rocksteady games. It is a prequel that sort of sets up the world, and that is about it. AA and AC are pretty directly tied. One leads directly to the other in a lot of ways. AO sets up stuff for AA but doesn't really lead directly to it.
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Anybody else notice how Gordon just sounds like Conroy in that new trailer?
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I'm really curious as to why Gordon gets a new voice in every game.
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