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CratSock
Aug 5, 2004

Sock Wielding Assassin

That's really not a bad assessment. I do dislike Hamilton, but can admit he is/was the better driver. I'd say Alonso, and then Hamilton are my choice for #1 and #2 drivers currently in the sport. Hamilton's aggressiveness can get him into trouble, but it is also what puts him at the front of the pack most of the time.

I also just wanted to make a mention of how lovely it was of McLaren to leave their drivers up in the air so late in the season. I wish Jenson had been able to say "OK, gently caress you Ron" and signed with any other relatively competitive team.

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Funzo
Dec 6, 2002



I'd really like to see Button stay in, but I don't know where else he could go if McLaren decide to go with Magnussen. Williams, Ferrari and Red Bull have already announced their lineups, and I can't see him going to one of the backmarker teams.

Ayem
Mar 4, 2008

NtotheTC posted:

Lets look at some stats-

Number of dogs:
Rosberg: Who gives a poo poo? None probably.
Hamilton: 2 awesome ones.


This is important info for the future driver bio.

MattD1zzl3
Oct 26, 2007
Probation
Can't post for 4 years!
Rosbergers has cats

Dudley
Feb 24, 2003

Tasty

NtotheTC posted:


Everything else he either got beaten, or Hamilton had reliability problems, or he got lucky (Monaco). It really was the reliability difference (Abu Dhabi bought them even on race reliability, but Lewis still had 2x qualifying car failures that put him way down the grid) that made the season close.

No it didn't. Lewis had two race ending mechanical issues, nico had three.

pik_d
Feb 24, 2006

follow the white dove





TRP Post of the Month October 2021

Dudley posted:

No it didn't. Lewis had two race ending mechanical issues, nico had three.

No? Lewis retired three times due to issues with his car, it just so happened that one of those times the issues were caused by being run into by Nico.

Nico also only retired twice, though I supposed finishing in 14th might as well be considered "race ending", even if it technically isn't.

Rhopunzel
Jan 6, 2006

Stroll together, win together

Funzo posted:

I'd really like to see Button stay in, but I don't know where else he could go if McLaren decide to go with Magnussen. Williams, Ferrari and Red Bull have already announced their lineups, and I can't see him going to one of the backmarker teams.

He basically made clear that he only wants to drive for a winning team and will retire if McLaren don't renew his contract. I'm not his biggest fan but it's totally bullshit and unprofessional how McLaren are treating him and K-Mag over this.

keevo
Jun 16, 2011

:burger:WAKE UP:burger:
I only want to write about Roscoe and Coco.

Also I don't think it was posted in here but double points, standing restarts and the regulation on team radio communication were all dropped for next year.

Fumble
Sep 4, 2006

I read somewhere that Porsche were going to run a 3rd wec car next year so The Buttman could slot right into that.

McLaren are clearly sandbagging to hide the fact that Honda have been doing secret tests all year at their private test track with a top secret chassis McLaren shipped to them in unmarked crates - The worst off season thread 2013.

George Zimmer
Jun 28, 2008

Fumble posted:

I read somewhere that Porsche were going to run a 3rd wec car next year so The Buttman could slot right into that.

McLaren are clearly sandbagging to hide the fact that Honda have been doing secret tests all year at their private test track with a top secret chassis McLaren shipped to them in unmarked crates - The worst off season thread 2013.

I think that's Le Mans only. There is a vacant Audi sear though.

Also lol if ya'll don't think Macca isn't sandbagging. Dennis the Menace is back and better than ever.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius

Fumble posted:

I read somewhere that Porsche were going to run a 3rd wec car next year so The Buttman could slot right into that.

McLaren are clearly sandbagging to hide the fact that Honda have been doing secret tests all year at their private test track with a top secret chassis McLaren shipped to them in unmarked crates - The worst off season thread 2013.

Suzuka?

Dynamite Dog
Dec 12, 2012

My hope as an Alonso fan is that Ron and Fernando have decided to put aside their differences to win and next year they run the most devious, underhanded, and unsporting team in the history of F1.

Basically Alonso makes his helmet look like Dick Dastardly's hat and Ron just laughs like Muttly whenever they cut to him on the world feed.

Chiwie
Oct 21, 2010

DROP YOUR COAT AND GRAB YOUR TOES, I'LL SHOW YOU WHERE THE WILD GOOSE GOES!!!!

Dynamite Dog posted:

My hope as an Alonso fan is that Ron and Fernando have decided to put aside their differences to win and next year they run the most devious, underhanded, and unsporting team in the history of F1.

Basically Alonso makes his helmet look like Dick Dastardly's hat and Ron just laughs like Muttly whenever they cut to him on the world feed.

I would watch the poo poo out of that.

Dudley
Feb 24, 2003

Tasty

pik_d posted:

No? Lewis retired three times due to issues with his car, it just so happened that one of those times the issues were caused by being run into by Nico.

Nico also only retired twice, though I supposed finishing in 14th might as well be considered "race ending", even if it technically isn't.

It was race ending even if he didn't actually retire. And remember the team wanted him to park.

But being in an accident is not reliability.

The Lewis had worse reliability myth is bewildering at best. If you believe that he should have got his car to the finish in Canada as Nico did with the same issue they both had three failures. And Lewis was arguably lucky his occurred at a point he could still, brilliantly in both cases, save the weekend.

Dudley fucked around with this message at 23:23 on Nov 26, 2014

NtotheTC
Dec 31, 2007


Dudley posted:

The Lewis had worse reliability myth is bewildering at best. If you believe that he should have got his car to the finish in Canada as Nico did with the same issue they both had three failures. And Lewis was arguably lucky his occurred at a point he could still, brilliantly in both cases, save the weekend.

I don't get this... his car stopped in Australia, his brakes failed in Canada, and Nico side-swiped him in Belgium. So that's three retirements to match the 3 that Rosberg had in the season. Then on top of that Hamilton had the two qualifying issues. I don't think it's unfair to say that Lewis had the worse luck this year.

I've no idea why you're giving credit to Rosberg for Canada or Belgium. It's not as if he knew what he was doing either time.

AgentJotun
Nov 1, 2007
For me its hardly an amazing feat that Hamilton beat Rosberg. In fact I think it reflects pretty poorly on Hamilton on how close Rosberg was able to run him. When has Nico ever been considered top tier?

That's what makes Ricciardo and Alonso's seasons more impressive to me. Both totally smashed world class team mates.

Tsaedje
May 11, 2007

BRAWNY BUTTONS 4 LYFE

AgentJotun posted:

For me its hardly an amazing feat that Hamilton beat Rosberg. In fact I think it reflects pretty poorly on Hamilton on how close Rosberg was able to run him. When has Nico ever been considered top tier?

That's what makes Ricciardo and Alonso's seasons more impressive to me. Both totally smashed world class team mates.

Raikkonen's poo poo and not world class

Rhopunzel
Jan 6, 2006

Stroll together, win together

AgentJotun posted:

For me its hardly an amazing feat that Hamilton beat Rosberg. In fact I think it reflects pretty poorly on Hamilton on how close Rosberg was able to run him. When has Nico ever been considered top tier?

That's what makes Ricciardo and Alonso's seasons more impressive to me. Both totally smashed world class team mates.

Vettel's poo poo and not world class

George Zimmer
Jun 28, 2008
Ferrari is poo poo and not world class.

Jon Von Anchovi
Sep 5, 2014

:australia:
Vettel is Ferrari and poo poo

Sashimi
Dec 26, 2008


College Slice
The following drivers are not poo poo: Danny Ric, Lewis Hamilton, and Fernando Alonso. Everyone else is rubbish and deserves to feel shame for being bad at driving cars.

Tsaedje
May 11, 2007

BRAWNY BUTTONS 4 LYFE

Sashimi posted:

The following drivers are not poo poo: Danny Ric, Lewis Hamilton, and Fernando Alonso. Everyone else is rubbish and deserves to feel shame for being bad at driving cars.

I don't think Bottas should be ashamed.

pik_d
Feb 24, 2006

follow the white dove





TRP Post of the Month October 2021

Tsaedje posted:

I don't think Bottas should be ashamed.

Or Vergne. Also I've got some stats showing that Maldonaldo and Chilton are the worst drivers on the grid. They should probably be put out of their misery.

Mercedes
Hamilton: 384
Rosberg: 317 - 83%

Red Bull
Ricciardo: 238
Vettel: 167 - 70%

Williams
Bottas: 186
Massa: 134 - 72%

Ferrari
Alonso: 161
Raikkonen: 55 - 34%

McLaren
Button: 126
Magnussen: 55 - 44%

Force India
Hulkenberg: 96
Perez: 59 - 61%

Toro Rosso
Vergne: 22
Kvyat: 8 - 36%

Lotus
Grosjean: 8
Maldonaldo: 2 - 25%

Marussia
Bianchi: 2
Chilton: 0 - 0%

ImplicitAssembler
Jan 24, 2013

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZzZecRh6XE

This makes me sad

Sashimi
Dec 26, 2008


College Slice

pik_d posted:

Or Vergne. Also I've got some stats showing that Maldonaldo and Chilton are the worst drivers on the grid. They should probably be put out of their misery.

Mercedes
Hamilton: 384
Rosberg: 317 - 83%

Red Bull
Ricciardo: 238
Vettel: 167 - 70%

Williams
Bottas: 186
Massa: 134 - 72%

Ferrari
Alonso: 161
Raikkonen: 55 - 34%

McLaren
Button: 126
Magnussen: 55 - 44%

Force India
Hulkenberg: 96
Perez: 59 - 61%

Toro Rosso
Vergne: 22
Kvyat: 8 - 36%

Lotus
Grosjean: 8
Maldonaldo: 2 - 25%

Marussia
Bianchi: 2
Chilton: 0 - 0%
For what it's worth Ericsson only beat Kobayashi twice when both cars finished, and one of those times was Monaco where Kobayashi's car was damaged.

Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester
Oct 3, 2000
http://imgur.com/a/SXkDH

learn to love formula 1

YOUR MUM

DMorbid
Jan 6, 2011

Hello! I see you.


"Finnish off your sentences"

Uh, okay then. I'll say PERKELE at the end of every sentence, is that Finnish enough?

edit: wait I know I'll end all sentences by complaining about Alonso being a lovely paydriver who sabotaged Kimi's car all this season

El Hefe
Oct 31, 2006

You coulda had a V8/
Instead of a tre-eight slug to yo' cranium/
I got six and I'm aimin' 'em/
Will I bust or keep you guessin'

pik_d posted:

Or Vergne. Also I've got some stats showing that Maldonaldo and Chilton are the worst drivers on the grid. They should probably be put out of their misery.

Mercedes
Hamilton: 384
Rosberg: 317 - 83%

Red Bull
Ricciardo: 238
Vettel: 167 - 70%

Williams
Bottas: 186
Massa: 134 - 72%

Ferrari
Alonso: 161
Raikkonen: 55 - 34%

McLaren
Button: 126
Magnussen: 55 - 44%

Force India
Hulkenberg: 96
Perez: 59 - 61%

Toro Rosso
Vergne: 22
Kvyat: 8 - 36%

Lotus
Grosjean: 8
Maldonaldo: 2 - 25%

Marussia
Bianchi: 2
Chilton: 0 - 0%

Barrichello once scored more points than Button when they were teammates, Button once scored more points than Hamilton when they were teammates, therefore Barrichello is a better driver than 2 times champ Lewis Hamilton.

NoArmedMan
Apr 1, 2003

El Hefe posted:

Barrichello once scored more points than Button when they were teammates, Button once scored more points than Hamilton when they were teammates, therefore Barrichello is a better driver than 2 times champ Lewis Hamilton.

well yeah

Wirth1000
May 12, 2010

#essereFerrari
Kimi's second only season (the other being his debut season in 2001) where he didn't finish on the podium even once.

Dubs
Mar 6, 2007

Stroll Own Zone.
Disregard Stroll outside zone.
well yeah

Human Grand Prix
Jan 24, 2013

by FactsAreUseless

Sashimi posted:

For what it's worth Ericsson only beat Kobayashi twice when both cars finished, and one of those times was Monaco where Kobayashi's car was damaged.

I think towards the end of the season Kobayashi lacked motivation - he was loving nowhere at Suzuka.

NtotheTC
Dec 31, 2007


Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester posted:

http://imgur.com/a/SXkDH

26. learn to love f1
...
37. learn to take it up the bum

these are very similar skill sets.

NtotheTC fucked around with this message at 07:17 on Nov 27, 2014

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

It was a pornography store. I was buying pornography.

NtotheTC posted:

these are very similar skill sets.

Formula 1 2014 Off season: 37, Lean to take it up the bum

Jon Von Anchovi
Sep 5, 2014

:australia:

Butt Wizard posted:

Formula 1 2014 Off season: 37, Lean to take it up the bum

And so sayeth the butt wizard

aequalis
Aug 11, 2010

Fernando is smugger than you. Can you confirm you understand that message?
I hate to be a Debbie Downer, but time for something only tangentially related to F1: Aussie cricketer Phil Hughes passed away today as a result of complications with head trauma received during a match on Wednesday (a bouncer hit him at the base of his skull behind his ear).

Head injuries are not to be hosed with.

#ForzaJules
#KeepFightingMichael

simplefish
Mar 28, 2011

So long, and thanks for all the fish gallbladdΣrs!


Seriously though those hashtags are terrible

"Go on Jules, hit that kraut bastard - forza, Jules, FORZA! KEEP FIGHTING MICHAEL! Fight him with all your heart and soul!"

e: #blessed #megajet

simplefish fucked around with this message at 08:44 on Nov 27, 2014

Carth Dookie
Jan 28, 2013

aequalis posted:

I hate to be a Debbie Downer, but time for something only tangentially related to F1: Aussie cricketer Phil Hughes passed away today as a result of complications with head trauma received during a match on Wednesday (a bouncer hit him at the base of his skull behind his ear).

Head injuries are not to be hosed with.

#ForzaJules
#KeepFightingMichael

Ah nuts I hadn't heard that he'd died. What anm awful way to go, nutted by a cricket ball. Naturally, I feel bad for the family, but man I really do pity the bowler. :sigh:

aequalis
Aug 11, 2010

Fernando is smugger than you. Can you confirm you understand that message?
I'm a little shocked, I guess with Schumi and Jules somewhat surviving their incidents, I had hopes for Hughesy, if you've seen the footage though, it's pretty bleak and I suppose I took it for granted that he'd be "ok".

Truly dreadful for the bowler.

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Carth Dookie
Jan 28, 2013

Martin Brundle has just tweeted that standing restarts after a safety car have been dropped as well as double points next year. Hurray.

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