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nsaP
May 4, 2004

alright?
I wonder what quirky rules we'll have next year to get people riled up and arguing???

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track day bro!
Feb 17, 2005

#essereFerrari
Grimey Drawer

nsaP posted:

I wonder what quirky rules we'll have next year to get people riled up and arguing???

I think everyone will be too busy celebrating Scuderia Ferraris return to glory with Sebastian Vettel tbh.

track day bro! fucked around with this message at 10:13 on Nov 27, 2014

AgentJotun
Nov 1, 2007
All we need now is the dumbass rule on lapped cars behind the safety car to be changed.

nsaP
May 4, 2004

alright?
The race distance must be respected!

ed: Seriously, I agree for regular backmarker circumstances, but wait for the poo poo storm when a front runner that took an early penalty or the like gets a 1 lap bump and moves up thru the field.

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

It was a pornography store. I was buying pornography.
Double medal races?

Ghost of Mussolini
Jun 26, 2011
I have (due to work-related reasons) finally got on twitter, does anyone have a list of super cool and informative and nice accounts to follow so I can read about #megajet live ?

#thanks

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

It was a pornography store. I was buying pornography.

Ghost of Mussolini posted:

I have (due to work-related reasons) finally got on twitter, does anyone have a list of super cool and informative and nice accounts to follow so I can read about #megajet live ?

#thanks

Follow Scarbs, the Cock and the Autosport account. The GP2 account is tweeting the testing session atm. Just beware that sometimes teams have their own race updates and they can quickly overwhelm your feed if you're watching a race with Twitter going at the same time.

simplefish
Mar 28, 2011

So long, and thanks for all the fish gallbladdΣrs!


Just force all lapped cars through the pits every lap behind the safety car to drop them to the back safely, then make them do an extra lap at the end. They already benefit on being closed up to the lead with the safety car.

AgentJotun
Nov 1, 2007
https://f1metrics.wordpress.com/2014/11/26/2014-model-based-driver-rankings/

Interesting article. I like it most because it shows Alonso is on the level of 90's Schumacher relative to their competitors.

Dudley
Feb 24, 2003

Tasty

NtotheTC posted:

I don't get this... his car stopped in Australia, his brakes failed in Canada, and Nico side-swiped him in Belgium. So that's three retirements to match the 3 that Rosberg had in the season. Then on top of that Hamilton had the two qualifying issues. I don't think it's unfair to say that Lewis had the worse luck this year.

I've no idea why you're giving credit to Rosberg for Canada or Belgium. It's not as if he knew what he was doing either time.

NtotheTC posted:

It really was the reliability difference (Abu Dhabi bought them even on race reliability, but Lewis still had 2x qualifying car failures that put him way down the grid)


You said reliability. Getting hit by someone regardless of fault isn't reliability.

And they both had the same issue in Canada, just Lewis couldn't stop driving like an idiot.

Carth Dookie
Jan 28, 2013

AgentJotun posted:

https://f1metrics.wordpress.com/2014/11/26/2014-model-based-driver-rankings/

Interesting article. I like it most because it shows Alonso is on the level of 90's Schumacher relative to their competitors.

Unfortunately, this is the same guy who rated Senna 19th out of 60, behind such fantastic drivers as Heinz Harald Frentzen and Jochen Rindt. He also rated Jacques Villeneuve above Gilles, by a wide margin. Also Mikka Hakkinen was 56th.

In short, his modelling is poo poo.

Carth Dookie fucked around with this message at 11:16 on Nov 27, 2014

enri
Dec 16, 2003

Hope you're having an amazing day

coaxmetal posted:

Off season F1 is the formula E season

Speaking of Formula E, did any of the UK goons catch the ITV4 coverage with Alex Brundle on the talky boring bits at the weekend? ...and were you similarly creeped out by how identical to his dad he is? Not just physically, but the way he talked and all of his mannerisms. It was like watching a younger, buffer Martin Brundle.

Creepy as gently caress.

serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

what.

Dudley posted:

You said reliability. Getting hit by someone regardless of fault isn't reliability.

And they both had the same issue in Canada, just Lewis couldn't stop driving like an idiot.

Wasn't it basically the opposite of Abu Dhabi. His car overheated first because he was behind Nico and cooked his brakes whereas Nico could manage his?

Jon Von Anchovi
Sep 5, 2014

:australia:

enri posted:

Speaking of Formula E, did any of the UK goons catch the ITV4 coverage with Alex Brundle on the talky boring bits at the weekend? ...and were you similarly creeped out by how identical to his dad he is? Not just physically, but the way he talked and all of his mannerisms. It was like watching a younger, buffer Martin Brundle.

Creepy as gently caress.

I thought someone else had mentioned this so i went back to find the quote.. .

enri posted:

Watched the Formula-E coverage last night that I'd recorded over the weekend, with Alex Brundle on the boring talky bit at the beginning. That kid is the spitting image of his dad, in every way possible. Even the way he talks and all of his mannerisms just had me thinking of Martin the whole time.

It was creepy as gently caress. I hope my kids don't end up mimicking me in every shape and form imaginable.


well i guess i was right.

also no i didn't, have a link to it anywhere?

AgentJotun
Nov 1, 2007

autism chariot posted:

Unfortunately, this is the same guy who rated Senna 19th out of 60, behind such fantastic drivers as Heinz Harald Frentzen and Jochen Rindt. He also rated Jacques Villeneuve above Gilles, by a wide margin. Also Mikka Hakkinen was 56th.

In short, his modelling is poo poo.

Ok it had some 'misses' with guys like Senna and Nico Rosberg, probably related to the large number of crap team mates Senna had and Rosberg beating Schumacher - but its not like the model is way way off. Clark, Stewart, Alonso, Schumacher, and Fangio is a pretty reasonable top 5. Its not perfect but as a tool to go along with conventional wisdom its not bad.

Dubs
Mar 6, 2007

Stroll Own Zone.
Disregard Stroll outside zone.
we already have an incredibly accurate way to measure drivers of past eras,



the moral world driver rankings.

drgitlin
Jul 25, 2003
luv 2 get custom titles from a forum that goes into revolt when its told to stop using a bad word.
Hey enri you should watch Alex Brundle speak some time. His mannerisms. They're the same as his dad. It's creepy. In the boring talky bits.

krushgroove
Oct 23, 2007

Disapproving look
Hey take it easy...he's probably old. Like, late 30's at least. Hell, I forget I need to eat sometimes and wonder why there's a painful feeling in the middle of my body.

Fanatic
Mar 9, 2006

:eyepop:

AgentJotun posted:

https://f1metrics.wordpress.com/2014/11/26/2014-model-based-driver-rankings/

Interesting article. I like it most because it shows Alonso is on the level of 90's Schumacher relative to their competitors.
It's gonna be real interesting to see how well Ferrari go next season without Alonso carrying the team.

Tony quidprano
Jan 19, 2014



Ferrari may be the most interesting team to follow next season. Either the car was built too much around Alonso and we see a bit of a rebound or Alonso is vindicated as they struggle to get into the points.

Dudley
Feb 24, 2003

Tasty

Looks like the Hulk might have landed a seat in the 3rd Porsche at LeMans.

Multi-discipline F1 drivers are back. This is excellent.

https://twitter.com/NicoHulkenberg

CratSock
Aug 5, 2004

Sock Wielding Assassin

Fanatic posted:

It's gonna be real interesting to see how well Ferrari go next season without Alonso carrying the team.

The team will be supported on the mighty shoulders of Super Sebastian Vettel, mightiest of F1 champions and truest of heroes! Revel in the glory that is to come, tifosi! Revel!

simplefish
Mar 28, 2011

So long, and thanks for all the fish gallbladdΣrs!


Dudley posted:

Looks like the Hulk might have landed a seat in the 3rd Porsche at LeMans.

Multi-discipline F1 drivers are back. This is excellent.

https://twitter.com/NicoHulkenberg

"Hello young GP2 driver! A seat, you say? Cash, you say? Come on in!"
"Oh, what's that, cash dried up? We want a real driver now? Sling yer hook!"

Tony quidprano
Jan 19, 2014



Dudley posted:

Looks like the Hulk might have landed a seat in the 3rd Porsche at LeMans.

Multi-discipline F1 drivers are back. This is excellent.

https://twitter.com/NicoHulkenberg

Good to see. Was afraid this was gone forever after Kubica's accident.

Human Grand Prix
Jan 24, 2013

by FactsAreUseless

Dudley posted:

Looks like the Hulk might have landed a seat in the 3rd Porsche at LeMans.

Multi-discipline F1 drivers are back. This is excellent.

https://twitter.com/NicoHulkenberg

Well safety has improved now so it is less likely that a Bellof or Winkelhock situation will occur.

The Croc
Dec 19, 2004

A-well-a everybody's heard about the bird!

OH YEAH!



Human Grand Prix posted:

Well safety has improved now so it is less likely that a Bellof or Winkelhock situation will occur.

Didn't someone die at Lemans this past year? Admittedly it was a freak the car littraly stopped in the barrier and compressed rather than dissipating any energy through losing all its carbon

NtotheTC
Dec 31, 2007


Dudley posted:

You said reliability. Getting hit by someone regardless of fault isn't reliability.

And they both had the same issue in Canada, just Lewis couldn't stop driving like an idiot.

He had an unreliable teammate :v:

Shrug, I disagree about Canada. The car should have held together and didn't. I don't think Rosberg "nursed" his car because he was controlling the situation, I think he nursed his car because he was incapable of going fast enough to cause an issue.

NtotheTC
Dec 31, 2007


autism chariot posted:

Unfortunately, this is the same guy who rated Senna 19th out of 60, behind such fantastic drivers as Heinz Harald Frentzen and Jochen Rindt. He also rated Jacques Villeneuve above Gilles, by a wide margin. Also Mikka Hakkinen was 56th.

In short, his modelling is poo poo.

His model is a triumph of misguided autism, but interestingly he got almost the exact same top 7 as I posted earlier in this thread. The difference is he's an idiot trying to prove it with spurious facts and I am fully aware that it's my own bias/gut instinct with nothing else to back it up.

jammyozzy
Dec 7, 2006

Is that a challenge?

The Croc posted:

Didn't someone die at Lemans this past year? Admittedly it was a freak the car littraly stopped in the barrier and compressed rather than dissipating any energy through losing all its carbon

It was Alan Simonsen in 2013, the guy hit the armco so hard he crashed broadside into the trees behind it and caved the side of the car in. :(

gently caress trees, basically. They moved the barrier forward and (I think) put a bunch of tec-pro barriers in front of it too.

Tony quidprano
Jan 19, 2014



Lewis' brakes failed in Canada because he was behind Rosberg whereas Rosberg was getting clear air to his brakes still. Had the situation been reverse Rosberg would've retired and Lewis would've been fine.

Xisticide
Nov 27, 2005

Dudley posted:

Looks like the Hulk might have landed a seat in the 3rd Porsche at LeMans.

Multi-discipline F1 drivers are back. This is excellent.

https://twitter.com/NicoHulkenberg

It's only been a few years since Bourdais did it, though he did get dumped by STR a couple of races later.

drgitlin
Jul 25, 2003
luv 2 get custom titles from a forum that goes into revolt when its told to stop using a bad word.

The Croc posted:

Didn't someone die at Lemans this past year? Admittedly it was a freak the car littraly stopped in the barrier and compressed rather than dissipating any energy through losing all its carbon

It was last year, and it was a GT car (an Aston Martin which has an aluminium chassis and an engine up front).

enri
Dec 16, 2003

Hope you're having an amazing day

Jon Von Anchovi posted:

I thought someone else had mentioned this so i went back to find the quote.. .



well i guess i was right.

also no i didn't, have a link to it anywhere?

:doh:

I wondered if I'd posted it or not, I've been so busy and tired recently that I thought I'd thought about posting it and then hadn't posted it. This is the second time in a few days I've done exactly this thing, thought I'd not posted something but had.

and..

krushgroove posted:

Hey take it easy...he's probably old. Like, late 30's at least. Hell, I forget I need to eat sometimes and wonder why there's a painful feeling in the middle of my body.

...yes, perpetually tired at the moment :( (mid-30s! :v:) Recently moved house, have barely sat still for 2 weeks until recently. But hurrah! So I did apparently post that thing.. did I mention that Alex Brundle is creepily like his dad?

Bloody whipper-snappers in this thread taking the piss out of us oldies :(

aequalis
Aug 11, 2010

Fernando is smugger than you. Can you confirm you understand that message?
So did you guys know that this was a thing? I didn't know that this was a thing.
There's just too many wrong things in it to point out by myself, so I'll just let you guys enjoy it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVr__5Addjw

e: Big John just can't catch a break!

aequalis fucked around with this message at 23:26 on Nov 27, 2014

thegasman2000
Feb 12, 2005
Update my TFLC log? BOLLOCKS!
/
:backtowork:
What the living gently caress was that!!! My poor eyes and ears. You sir are very nearly responsible for be smashing my phone. So good job I guess...

On a side note are their rules on helmet designs? Reckon a disco ball one might dazzle a competitor for ultra mind games points. Yes I am look at you seb you fraudulent bastard.

Human Grand Prix
Jan 24, 2013

by FactsAreUseless
David Guetta is a virtuoso.

Jon Von Anchovi
Sep 5, 2014

:australia:

Human Grand Prix posted:

David Guetta is a virtuoso.

guetta outta here.

Tsaedje
May 11, 2007

BRAWNY BUTTONS 4 LYFE
"JP" is definitely the moral victor there, finishing between two v8 F1 cars in an unsponsored GP2(?) car

Quantrill
Nov 18, 2005

Grosjean got third, his best finish this year?

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AgentJotun
Nov 1, 2007
300kmh+ apex speeds, not bad.


Also the Robbie Williams F1 video is like 10,000 times better sorry.

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