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Can you repeat the question? Also as for Talia... and focusing on something other than her clothes for a change. I did always enjoy her episode in Batman Beyond, besides, it gave us this wonderful moment https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebI8H5nq5L4 Onmi fucked around with this message at 02:04 on Dec 6, 2014 |
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Onmi posted:Also as for Talia... and focusing on something other than her clothes for a change. I did always enjoy her episode in Batman Beyond, besides, it gave us this wonderful moment https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebI8H5nq5L4 And this one where Terry surprises batman by showing that can do the mental legwork when necessary.
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Kurieg posted:And this one where Terry surprises batman by showing that can do the mental legwork when necessary. Bruce and Barbara had a relationship  the fuuuuuuuuuuck
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Aces High posted:Bruce and Barbara had a relationship In the Animated Series? yes. It ended because much like every other relationship with Bruce, he couldn't stop being Batman.
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Aces High posted:Bruce and Barbara had a relationship Here's the best video I could find of it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_pvO7kx-eI Has a bunch of other stuff mixed inbetween but yeah.
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Maybe I should change the title to DCAU Depreciation Station  So I've got a big section coming up which pretty much heralds the end of the game. You're sort of on rails once you do it, like going into the Visitation Center when the party starts in Arkham Asylum. My question is: I'm going to have a lot of gadgets and could do a lot of Riddling. Should I screw around, probably with someone else talking about Batman things, or should I just get the story done and then pick up things afterwards?
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dscruffy1 posted:Maybe I should change the title to DCAU Depreciation Station I think it's fine to screw around and talk batman things. Could be interesting, especially if you'll be wrapping up side quest chains, then you can talk about the villains it relates to.
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I really liked the DCAU version of Bruce's career declining. It's not really talked about besides these few scenes, but as he gets older, it becomes clearer that he isn't really cleaning up Gotham, since the city is still plagued by crime and supervillains like no other. Bruce gets more obsessed with superheroing as a result, and this brings him into deep disagreements with people he's supposed to be allies with. Dick quits, Tim replaces him, then there's the fiasco with the Joker, and some time after that Barbara quits too. The events shown in Return of the Joker are (probably) what convinced him to stop taking sidekicks altogether. But it's never really explained why Bruce quits the Justice League. In the first episode of Batman Beyond he's shown working alone, as usual, but the only mention of the League comes in a scant few episodes written specifically about them. Granted, Beyond was written before the Justice League had its own show, but even when they explore the future timelines, they never give us a solid answer. There are a lot of things it could be, but I like to imagine that it's what happens with Ace that finally makes him go solo again.
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Another thing that sucks is the Bat-Embargo due to Batman Begins and The Batman being out around that time prevented other Bat-Family characters from being used. Even most of Batman's villains couldn't really show up, aside from Joker and Harley. I remember Clayface joining some kind of Injustice League once and an alternate universe version of Arkham, but that was it. What I'm getting at is that we never see precisely when Tim gets messed up in the head by the Joker. Is it after Justice League? During?
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John Liver posted:I really liked the DCAU version of Bruce's career declining. It's not really talked about besides these few scenes, but as he gets older, it becomes clearer that he isn't really cleaning up Gotham, since the city is still plagued by crime and supervillains like no other. Bruce gets more obsessed with superheroing as a result, and this brings him into deep disagreements with people he's supposed to be allies with. Dick quits, Tim replaces him, then there's the fiasco with the Joker, and some time after that Barbara quits too. The events shown in Return of the Joker are (probably) what convinced him to stop taking sidekicks altogether. Being a little familiar with the justice league beyond comics (dcau comic spinoffs), maybe it had to do with Wonder Woman leaving Bruce for his FREAKING JUSTICE LORD COUNTERPART Don't know bout you, but I would take that badly. Also that could be used to retroactively justify the lack of a WW picture in his batfolder.
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mauman posted:Being a little familiar with the justice league beyond comics (dcau comic spinoffs), maybe it had to do with Wonder Woman leaving Bruce for his FREAKING JUSTICE LORD COUNTERPART It's very simple to point out that the DCAU comics are not in the shows canon, instead they're within the canon of the future DCU and... honestly most of the comics aren't that good. At least to start, because they were written by Adam Beechan.
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John Liver posted:But it's never really explained why Bruce quits the Justice League. In the first episode of Batman Beyond he's shown working alone, as usual, but the only mention of the League comes in a scant few episodes written specifically about them. Granted, Beyond was written before the Justice League had its own show, but even when they explore the future timelines, they never give us a solid answer. There are a lot of things it could be, but I like to imagine that it's what happens with Ace that finally makes him go solo again. He never technically joined the Justice League in the first place. That's part of the batman "Don't get too close to people" thing. Though it's implied that the reason he broke off all ties completely was him having talk Ace into killing herself to save everyone else. And by definition Return of the Joker takes place sometime after JLU ended, since Joker's still alive in at least a few episodes.
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mauman posted:Being a little familiar with the justice league beyond comics (dcau comic spinoffs), maybe it had to do with Wonder Woman leaving Bruce for his FREAKING JUSTICE LORD COUNTERPART Hahahahaha what
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dscruffy1 posted:Maybe I should change the title to DCAU Depreciation Station Honestly it's kind of your call. Unlike in Asylum, a lot of the sidequests in this game have real endings to them, whereas really the only sidequest in Asylum was the Riddler trophies and the only conclusion was hearing him get taken down by the cops over the radio. I guess saving the grand finale for the end might make a nice coda, but there's really not that much of a need to when in the post-game you can still do the Hush story, Deadshot, Riddler, Mad Hatter, Zsasz, finding Nora Fries, Catwoman taking down Two-Face again, and all sorts of other Easter Eggs and goodies. Plus the DLC which takes place post-story will obviously be the end-point of the LP so in comparison to Asylum, it's not that important when you end City's main game.
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The death of Joker in BTAS was implied to be the end of the Bat-Family.
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Onmi posted:It's very simple to point out that the DCAU comics are not in the shows canon, instead they're within the canon of the future DCU and... honestly most of the comics aren't that good. At least to start, because they were written by Adam Beechan. Yes of course. I agree, but they're all we have for any plot holes that DCAU has left over. mauman fucked around with this message at 06:03 on Dec 6, 2014 |
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What I really liked about Batman Beyond is that, while it did have old Bat-villains show up in some capacities, it generally tried to establish its own Rogues gallery, to often great effect. Inque is a great villain, so is Blight and that nerdy kid who bulks up in prison. It helped Terry feel like a "real" Batman because he had his own unique villains to face to fit his era. I really would love a relaunch of the show to continue telling stories in that setting, or better yet, a comic line. Cyberpunk is a fertile ground that Batman comics rarely touch, save for that god-awful "Batman in the Internet" issue of Batman Inc.
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BottledBodhisvata posted:What I really liked about Batman Beyond is that, while it did have old Bat-villains show up in some capacities, it generally tried to establish its own Rogues gallery, to often great effect. Inque is a great villain, so is Blight and that nerdy kid who bulks up in prison. It helped Terry feel like a "real" Batman because he had his own unique villains to face to fit his era. I really would love a relaunch of the show to continue telling stories in that setting, or better yet, a comic line. Cyberpunk is a fertile ground that Batman comics rarely touch, save for that god-awful "Batman in the Internet" issue of Batman Inc. And this is why the Comics they made recently were mostly bad, because they just reused old Batman villains or expies of them, the most damning moment was Terry trying to hit on a new 'Catwoman' because 'It's tradition and it's about time I got a Catwoman.' Or Hush being a villain and old Terry villains getting killed, it's just... dumb. To tie it all in, I would love a Beyond Rocksteady game though.
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Onmi posted:And this is why the Comics they made recently were mostly bad, because they just reused old Batman villains or expies of them, the most damning moment was Terry trying to hit on a new 'Catwoman' because 'It's tradition and it's about time I got a Catwoman.' Well, all being said, I mostly agree with you about the beyond unlimited series. Hush beyond was weird and how they dealt with the GL/Huntress/Hawk Girl love triangle were two of the bigger problems I had with the series. 10,000 Jokers, on the other hand, was ok. Now the 2.0 (both batman and justice league) series I rather adored, and they're both series I recommend and am willing to consider DCAU canon. Also Batman Beyond 2.0 avoided the trap of using the old rogue's gallery. Also reports of Mad Stan's death at the hands of Hush were somewhat exaggerated, he was visiting his sick mother at the time. Hush also lied about Shriek, but they never bothered to explain that one. Hobgoblin2099 posted:Hahahahaha what It does make sense in context, and that particular arc was really good if you like DCAU Superman or DCAU Wonder Woman. Also, yes to a Beyond Rocksteady game. mauman fucked around with this message at 13:31 on Dec 6, 2014 |
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Maybe I have low standards or just didn't see all of the horror of Arkham Origins, but what exactly is the problem with that game? In my experience it seems to be everything Arkham City was but better, with the caveat of having no earthshaking new gameplay ideas. I hear it can apparently be a buggy mess and wasn't supported by the devs? I guess I missed the bugs, I thought it was pretty great, myself, but I'm not heavily into the comics from which all of this stuff originates.
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Waltzing Along posted:Didn't Paul Dini do Elfquest? No. Wendy and Richard Pini did.
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Kazeite posted:Please do the side stuff first - especially try to destroy all the cameras beforehand Yeah, definitely destroy all of the cameras at least.
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BottledBodhisvata posted:What I really liked about Batman Beyond is that, while it did have old Bat-villains show up in some capacities, it generally tried to establish its own Rogues gallery, to often great effect. Inque is a great villain, so is Blight and that nerdy kid who bulks up in prison. It helped Terry feel like a "real" Batman because he had his own unique villains to face to fit his era. I really would love a relaunch of the show to continue telling stories in that setting, or better yet, a comic line. Cyberpunk is a fertile ground that Batman comics rarely touch, save for that god-awful "Batman in the Internet" issue of Batman Inc. See I kind of disagree with this. I didn't find any of the Beyond villains particularly interesting and the only ones I even remember the names of are Inque, Blight, and Curare. And I only remember Curare because it's a dumb loving name, I don't remember anything else about him. The Beyond villains just never made much of an impression on me.
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CuwiKhons posted:And I only remember Curare because it's a dumb loving name, I don't remember anything else about him. Curare was a woman. And Terry had a number of rogues. Inque, Blight, Shriek, Spellbinder, Stalker, Curare, Mad Stan, Willie Watt, the Jokerz, the Royal Flush Gang, etc.
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Well that sort of proves my point then. And the Royal Flush Gang were Batman villains before they were Beyond villains. Terry just got a new version of the gang.
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It's 1:30PM and I'm hungover. Have some videos. The Head Of The Demon/Polsy - Interview tape: Penguin 5Character bios: Ra's Al Ghul Arkham City Stories: Talia's Guard, Buried On A Sunday (2)  Combat Challenge: Hell's Gate/Polsy with Animated Series NightwingRa's Al Ghul is a pretty fun boss fight but it's not the best one. In the meantime I think I'm going to just hit the story and then tackle postgame content, just because so much of the game happens after you finish the story.
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I thought Batman quit the league after the files he kept on other league members were used in an attempt to kill them. I think was in an episode of JL or JLU, but it's been a while and I could be mistaken. In the last segment of the fight I swear Ra's was channeling an old Nintendo commercial https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_zXOG5DjN8
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I don't care what anyone says, Ra's al Ghul is the hypest fight in this game.  I will admit that there is another boss that is better executed, though. DeLurk posted:I thought Batman quit the league after the files he kept on other league members were used in an attempt to kill them. I think was in an episode of JL or JLU, but it's been a while and I could be mistaken. That was Justice League: Doom, an unrelated film that had a lot of the same voice actors.
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DeLurk posted:I thought Batman quit the league after the files he kept on other league members were used in an attempt to kill them. I think was in an episode of JL or JLU, but it's been a while and I could be mistaken. That was from a DC animated movie unrelated to JLU, but there was the Justice lords two-parter episode, where Lord Batman made specific cages for his league counterparts
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:Curare was a woman. Spellbinder was awesome, I loved Spellbinder. He's basically a future version of Scarecrow. They all sort of are. Stalker was cool too, although it was weird that they brought him back after his first appearance, he really seemed very clearly to die in a rather fitting fashion in the first episode he shows up in. Curare was cool because I think she was evidence that the League of Assassins still existed in the future?
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BottledBodhisvata posted:Spellbinder was awesome, I loved Spellbinder. He's basically a future version of Scarecrow. They all sort of are. Stalker was cool too, although it was weird that they brought him back after his first appearance, he really seemed very clearly to die in a rather fitting fashion in the first episode he shows up in. Society. Completely different. Also most notably was that a lot of Terry's villains seemed a lot like Spiderman villains. According to some anyway.
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Ra's feels a lot like a much more honest Batman. Note I say this without a lot of context because I've only seen him here and in his incredibly forgettable appearance in the Nolan movies. Night10194 fucked around with this message at 08:23 on Dec 7, 2014 |
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Ra's al Ghul is a pretty fun villain when written well. He alternates between attempting plans that will destroy most of the world and buying 25% of the world's oil and letting it sit in his basement just to drive up the prices and cause chaos. I'm serious. He's actually done that.
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Actually, I would say that this boss fight is done well in this game, but a similar fight is done BETTER in Arkham Origins - but that's for the next LP, I guess. But this is not the best boss in the game. Edit: At 8 mins in, when Ghul jumps down from the sky - there's a structure up there, it looks almost like a seperate level. Does anyone know what it is? Edit Edit: Actually, thinking about the character design of Ghul as a whole - he is essential the ur-Fu Manchu, or rather, the uber Orientalist villain; he incorporates a lot of 'Orientalist' aesthetic - his name and physical appearance suggest a Near East origin; with the text on his sword and the fact that he is the head of an assassin's guild suggesting a specifically Islamic bent, but his use of ninjas, shurikens and the 'terracotta army' pose they form when protecting him suggest Japanese and Chinese influences as well. He doesn't seem to represent a 'Yellow' peril, but more a 'non-American/non-European' peril. Samovar fucked around with this message at 10:37 on Dec 7, 2014 |
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