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fritz: Jul 26, 2003

Progressive JPEG posted:

not a registry editor from this distance your honor

(also you might be able to set this to 0 idk)

integer-valued mouse acceleration factor set to DBL_MIN

# ? Dec 8, 2014 18:34

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# ? Apr 19, 2024 00:55

The Leck: Feb 27, 2001

Maximum Leader posted:

its a nightmare to figure out which config files are actually used and which were deprecated at some point. esp when they aren't actually created unless you need to change something. seems so stupid

and the documentation hasn't been updated along with the system, so you're told to edit a file that doesn't exist and never will because you live in the present

# ? Dec 8, 2014 19:25

Soricidus: Oct 21, 2010; freedom-hating statist shill

Suspicious Dish posted:

What would you prefer over a hierarchical key/value database for storing settings?

x resources are pretty good. hierarchical key/value database stored in flat files with wildcard support? hell yeah, no way that could ever go wrong

# ? Dec 8, 2014 19:30

Qtotonibudinibudet: Nov 7, 2011; Omich poluyobok, skazhi ty narkoman? ya prosto tozhe gde to tam zhivu, mogli by vmeste uyobyvat' narkotiki

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the issue is that there's a need to drill into the internals to change anything in the first place

the internals are the only guaranteed way of configuration doing what it says.

the dwm developers were right

# ? Dec 9, 2014 01:01

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IPvSH6T posted:

the dwm developers were right

# ? Dec 9, 2014 01:21

Sapozhnik: Jan 2, 2005; Nap Ghost

nah not really

# ? Dec 9, 2014 01:59

Brain Candy: May 18, 2006

fritz posted:

integer-valued mouse acceleration factor set to DBL_MIN

and the default value is outside the range

# ? Dec 9, 2014 03:07

Suspicious Dish: Sep 24, 2011; 2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro; Fun Shoe

That's a bug in dconf-editor misunderstanding the schema. It was fixed in July.

# ? Dec 9, 2014 05:05

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Mr Dog posted:

nah not really

dwm is simple enough to do anything, while gnome is complex enough to do nothing

# ? Dec 9, 2014 05:09

Sapozhnik: Jan 2, 2005; Nap Ghost

Series DD Funding posted:

dwm is simple enough to do anything, while gnome is complex enough to do nothing

how do i connect to a wireless network

# ? Dec 9, 2014 05:46

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networkmanager. or wpa_supplicant if your autism is terminal

# ? Dec 9, 2014 05:52

Sapozhnik: Jan 2, 2005; Nap Ghost

networkmanager is a system daemon, how do i interact with it if there's no shell integration, is there a standalone gui prog i could use?

# ? Dec 9, 2014 06:01

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trayer and nm-applet

# ? Dec 9, 2014 06:04

DONT THREAD ON ME: Oct 1, 2002; by Nyc_Tattoo; Floss Finder

Mr Dog posted:

networkmanager is a system daemon, how do i interact with it if there's no shell integration, is there a standalone gui prog i could use?

install the gnome apps for gui config stuff just don't install the full gnome DE

# ? Dec 9, 2014 06:37

Soricidus: Oct 21, 2010; freedom-hating statist shill

Mr Dog posted:

networkmanager is a system daemon, how do i interact with it if there's no shell integration, is there a standalone gui prog i could use?

dbus-send

# ? Dec 9, 2014 10:16

Zombywuf: Mar 29, 2008

Mr Dog posted:

networkmanager is a system daemon, how do i interact with it if there's no shell integration, is there a standalone gui prog i could use?

nm-connection-editor

# ? Dec 9, 2014 14:57

There Will Be Penalty: May 18, 2002; Makes a great pet!

Series DD Funding posted:

networkmanager. or wpa_supplicant if your autism is terminal

# ? Dec 9, 2014 18:03

Notorious b.s.d.: Jan 25, 2003; by Reene

Mr Dog posted:

networkmanager is a system daemon, how do i interact with it if there's no shell integration, is there a standalone gui prog i could use?

not any good ones. consider: any application that is gonna manage wireless connections has to configure and spawn a system daemon (the wpa supplicant). you're gonna have hella intricacy and privilege escalation however you slice it

your best bet is to find a client that talks to network manager, which is already plenty complicated and privilege-escalated. use nmcli or the kde/gnome gui applets. you can run them without a full gnome/kde shell

# ? Dec 9, 2014 19:53

Qtotonibudinibudet: Nov 7, 2011; Omich poluyobok, skazhi ty narkoman? ya prosto tozhe gde to tam zhivu, mogli by vmeste uyobyvat' narkotiki

Mr Dog posted:

how do i connect to a wireless network

why do you want your window manager to connect to a wireless network.

what do you think it is, ~~emacs~~a network stack

# ? Dec 9, 2014 20:24

Captain Foo: May 11, 2004; we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

cool now there's a version of ubuntu that breaks away from apt-get and .deb files

# ? Dec 9, 2014 20:26

Sapozhnik: Jan 2, 2005; Nap Ghost

GNOME provides a thing that lets me browse and connect to networks, a build-your-own-desktop thing with separate things like window managers doesn't, so I wanted to know what the equivalent of GNOME shell's nm integration was. standalone apps are fine if you're going that route, and actually it looks like nmcli has actually become useful since i last looked at it (you can actually scan for and connect to new wireless networks now, even though its output formatting is kinda gross)

Suspicious Dish you mentioned something about there being a lack of manpower working on Wayland at the moment, what's the story you were going to tell about that?

# ? Dec 9, 2014 20:29

Maximum Leader: Dec 5, 2014

Captain Foo posted:

cool now there's a version of ubuntu that breaks away from apt-get and .deb files

did they finally realize the correct way to install apps is to drag them into the applications folder?

# ? Dec 9, 2014 21:16

Series DD Funding: Nov 25, 2014; by exmarx

fedora 21 is finally out :confuoot:

# ? Dec 9, 2014 21:18

carry on then: Jul 10, 2010; by VideoGames
(and can't post for 10 years!)

m'linux

# ? Dec 9, 2014 21:21

Captain Foo: May 11, 2004; we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

Maximum Leader posted:

did they finally realize the correct way to install apps is to drag them into the applications folder?

what a snappy comeback

# ? Dec 9, 2014 21:24

ahmeni: May 1, 2005; It's one continuous form where hardware and software function in perfect unison, creating a new generation of iPhone that's better by any measure.; Grimey Drawer

Maximum Leader posted:

did they finally realize the correct way to install apps is to drag them into the applications folder?

this is a clowns way to install applications and is for people too dumb to get their app into the App Store

# ? Dec 9, 2014 21:30

GATOS Y VATOS: Aug 22, 2002

Ur Getting Fatter posted:

installed the linux

tried to update my graphics driver on the linux

the linux would not start

help how do I get good at the linux?

hey I'm just quoting this from 9 months ago to ask how it went.

# ? Dec 9, 2014 22:21

Captain Foo: May 11, 2004; we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

GATOS Y VATOS posted:

hey I'm just quoting this from 9 months ago to ask how it went.

he's dead, killed by a linux

# ? Dec 9, 2014 22:28

GATOS Y VATOS: Aug 22, 2002

Captain Foo posted:

he's dead, killed by a linux

# ? Dec 9, 2014 22:31

Last Chance: Dec 31, 2004

Captain Foo posted:

he's dead, killed by a linux

if people could die from linux graphic driver failing, we'd be much better off as a society

# ? Dec 9, 2014 23:28

Tankakern: Jul 25, 2007

Soricidus posted:

dbus-send

hahaha

# ? Dec 10, 2014 00:21

Tankakern: Jul 25, 2007

Progressive JPEG posted:

lamo so i just spent the last couple hours trying random poo poo to get a custom xinput keymap applied for my weird mouse: reverse left/rightclick + switch up the thumb buttons a bit
but xinput settings are dropped on the floor whenever the machine is suspended, so you have to do some extra bullshit if you don't want your configs randomly changing on you:

- all the howtos from circa 2011 recommend putting it in a /etc/pm/sleep.d script that gets called on resume, but that doesn't work because xinput wants to be run from within the X11 session and not by some random script running as root. also it seems like the mouse device isn't even listed at this point where xinput is concerned
- then some newer poo poo says to use a gnome-settings-daemon 'hotplug script' (even the example script has bad indentation lol). the script runs successfully in the logs but the settings aren't actually sticking -- something is overriding it
- maybe it's xorg itself that's overriding it on resume?? try adding a config to /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d (not in /etc for reasons) for the mouse. but nope that's apparently not it either, mapping is still getting stomped
- then i find some people saying to turn off a mouse plugin in gnome-settings-daemon via a manual gconf command, which likewise doesn't seem to do anything but whatever
- THEN when browsing around in there i see a gnome-settings-daemon option to switch the mouse to left-handed directly, which is half of what i want. after switching that on, the left/rightclick are suddenly reversed, now the xinput keymap that's stomping on my custom keymap is suddenly a version that's left-handed

so in short something in gnome-settings-daemon is actively making GBS threads on any custom keymaps whenever the compute resumes from suspend, in such a way that even other customization methods within gnome-settings-daemon itself are themselves stomped on

that said this is bunters lts so who knows maybe it's something canonical did

noob

(use XAUTHORITY and DISPLAY variables to run x11 progs outside of an x11 session)

# ? Dec 10, 2014 00:23

ahmeni: May 1, 2005; It's one continuous form where hardware and software function in perfect unison, creating a new generation of iPhone that's better by any measure.; Grimey Drawer

sorry but your XAUTHORITY flag is gold fringed and I do not consent to berth

# ? Dec 10, 2014 02:48

ahmeni: May 1, 2005; It's one continuous form where hardware and software function in perfect unison, creating a new generation of iPhone that's better by any measure.; Grimey Drawer

mods namechange to XFreeman On The Org

# ? Dec 10, 2014 02:50