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Samovar posted:Heck, thinking on it again; Freeze is doing to Batman what Batman did to him, put his life in danger until he fulfilled part of a bargin. In fact, I think he even uses the same line Batman does - "you don't look well". He made one fatal flaw though. Batman was still in a position to kick the poo poo out of him, Freeze wasn't.
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True, but if you're going to be a dick to Batman, do it when he's dying.
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Dec 12, 2014 09:26
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Bootcha posted:True, but if you're going to be a dick to Batman, do it when he's dying. Well technically he already is.
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Dec 12, 2014 10:49
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It's almost a shame you stomp the boss fight as quickly as you did; when poo poo like the drones starts coming out, and you can't necessarily think of X takedowns off the top of your head, it really drives home the idea that Freeze is hunting you just as much as you're hunting him. This is a good loving video game.
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Dec 12, 2014 11:53
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I have to say it would be really cool if more thugs - like, last thug in ~10% of encounters maybe? - did what the first Riddler informant did; "Oh god I'm so screwed I give up please don't break my face Batman". Of course you can break their face anyway but it'd help reinforce the feeling that Batman is utterly terrifying to these punks. [Edit] Ooh, and of course Tyger guards never would do anything of the sort, to further reinforce how thoroughly Strange has worked their heads over.
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Good news everyone! I just recorded the end. So if nothing else I will definitely for sure be finishing the main story. I've still got about 100 Riddler challenges and a big chunk of sidequests, but those should be easy enough to tackle in the postgame. There is a lot of postgame. I'm still planning on doing the DLC, but here's the trick. I might actually be doing a technical 100% of the game. It's just convenient and satisfies my inner completionist, drat it. If I do, I'll post a screenshot in the thread because reasons. As for Arkham Knight...well. I'm probably going to need to upgrade my computer before I can even play Arkham Knight, much less record it. Maybe I should start a Patreon campaign  (I'm not doing this I have a full time job can't play video games all day)
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Dec 12, 2014 14:36
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Yay!  Nekomimi-Maiden posted:I have to say it would be really cool if more thugs - like, last thug in ~10% of encounters maybe? - did what the first Riddler informant did; "Oh god I'm so screwed I give up please don't break my face Batman".  Oh, yeah, and Batman: Vengeance had a system where you had to cuff all defeated thugs - otherwise they'd just go back up in few minutes and attack you again like nothing happened Running around the level, scrounging for batt-cuffs was... annoying. 
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Dec 12, 2014 15:18
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Bootcha posted:True, but if you're going to be a dick to Batman, do it when he's dying. He was dying, and Freeze STILL got his rear end kicked.
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Dec 12, 2014 17:11
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RareAcumen posted:Isn't Batman supposed to be like the World's Greatest Detective or something? Could've hired him and paid with half of a two antidotes for blood poison. Anyway, it'd be cool if the reasoning was more concrete that you could agree with it but eh, what can you do? He is the best at being a detective, but it is not like... his job or anything. Batman's job is being scary and punching bad people in the face. No one can hire batman.
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Dec 12, 2014 17:28
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Yeah, if you're looking to actually hire a detective to solve a problem, Riddler's the one you're looking for, not Batman You don't just go up to Bats and ask him to solve a case. Most of the time, Bats doesn't get much chance to flex his detective muscles. He just bursts in on people and starts breaking bones.
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Dec 12, 2014 18:06
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CuwiKhons posted:Yeah, if you're looking to actually hire a detective to solve a problem, Riddler's the one you're looking for, not Batman A shame too, because Batman's most enduring line of comics is literally called "Detective Comics".
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Dec 12, 2014 18:43
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CuwiKhons posted:Yeah, if you're looking to actually hire a detective to solve a problem, Riddler's the one you're looking for, not Batman Normally Riddler's the one you'd go to, yes. Unfortunately in Arkham City he just got done marathoning all the Saw movies and really really wants to watch people die through inaction.
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Dec 12, 2014 19:05
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Granted, there's not all that much the hostages can do when they're tied up and strapped down and so on. Unless you meant inaction on Batman's part.
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Dec 12, 2014 19:42
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Yeah, on Batman's part. He's set up an elaborate series of traps entirely reliant on Batman not being able to save them, and this being Batman's fault, and thus he is better than Batman because for once Batman lacked perfect forethought. But lo and behold he has those things and thus he has cheated. "Yeah I called it a test of skill but no they were just supposed to die, and it's your fault because I said so."
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Dec 12, 2014 21:52
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I'm not entirely sure how some of these death traps were supposed to kill the hostages. Like, the first and third weren't even put in harm's way, were they?
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Thirst, maybe?
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Pyroi posted:He was dying, and Freeze STILL got his rear end kicked. Remember, Freeze doesn't know Batman drank the Lazarus stuff and his face is starting to get all gross and veiny again. Given that Freeze knows what Joker's blood is doing to him, he probably figured Batman was getting so sick by now he'd be desperate for the cure and not at all strong enough to pose any threat to Freeze. Though that begs the question of how Batman would be strong enough to rescue Nora if he really was that bad off...
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Albu-quirky Guy posted:Remember, Freeze doesn't know Batman drank the Lazarus stuff and his face is starting to get all gross and veiny again. Given that Freeze knows what Joker's blood is doing to him, he probably figured Batman was getting so sick by now he'd be desperate for the cure and not at all strong enough to pose any threat to Freeze. Though that begs the question of how Batman would be strong enough to rescue Nora if he really was that bad off... Also the conversation between Batman and Oracle when the fight started implied that Freeze knocked the poo poo out of Batman the last time they fought.
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:I'm not entirely sure how some of these death traps were supposed to kill the hostages. The death traps aren't really meant for the hostages. Only the shell game immediately punishes the hostage for Batman failing (he gets set on fire if you choose poorly), the rest can only be failed via Batman dying. I mean, ultimately if Batman died trying to rescue the hostages then you can bet that Riddler would probably kill the hostages too on account of him being a huge dick in this game, but none of the hostages are capable of nor expected to figure their own way out, so the trap isn't really dangerous to them if they just sit there. Even shell game guy is in no real danger until Batman shows up and engages the game.
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The boss fight no one saw coming. Unexpected Surprises/Polsy - Interview tape: Mr. Freeze 3, Mad Hatter 1-5Character bios: Mad Hatter, Azrael (updated) Arkham City Stories: The Mad Hatter (2)  DLC Campaign: Wayne Manor/Polsy with NightwingThis challenge campaign is the one that came with the Nightwing DLC, so it's somewhat built around making his Predator quirks work. He doesn't have a glide but he does have a Catwoman-style Pounce, so leaping from rope to rope is totally valid. It's another one of those campaigns that has a story behind it that I feel like could have been written more into the campaigns to make them interesting, like the Black Mask campaign. After Bruce Wayne is captured and incarcerated in Arkham City, Hugo Strange and the Penguin send thugs to loot Wayne Manor. It's also neat because being Batman's house, it has a good number of secret passages that I didn't show off. dscruffy1 fucked around with this message at 04:42 on Dec 13, 2014 |
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Dec 13, 2014 03:35
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Azrael wae formerly batman... kind of, during the 90's when bane broke Batmans back, Jean-Paul Valley replaced him as the Dark Knight, but was meant as a spoof on "90s hero becoming more grimdark" so he was eventually defeated by BruceBats. Eventually he became or was revealed to be apart of the Order of St. Dumas, who are essentially Knights Templar. I don't know a lot of him but the basics is "Used to be Batman temporarily"
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Dec 13, 2014 03:54
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Onmi posted:Azrael wae formerly batman... kind of, during the 90's when bane broke Batmans bat, Jean-Paul Valley replaced him as the Dark Knight, but was meant as a spoof on "90s hero becoming more grimdark" so he was eventually defeated by BruceBats. Eventually he became or was revealed to be apart of the Order of St. Dumas, who are essentially Knights Templar. I don't know a lot of him but the basics is "Used to be Batman temporarily" Well. That was Jean-Paul Valley. This is Michael Lane. Different grimdark avengers.
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Video seems to be a bit broken during the fight with Hatter
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dscruffy1 posted:Well. That was Jean-Paul Valley. This is Michael Lane. Different grimdark avengers. Azrael is another legacy hero. This one showed up during Battle for the Cowl. Also uh... is the video supposed to die a death in the midst of the Mad Hatter fight? and lose all audio for the rest of it. At first I thought it was doing a Scarecrow freeze fake out and then... Also Battle for the Cowl in detail is that after Batmans death in Final Crisis, everyone around Gotham decided "Well... we need a new Batman." Front runners for taking up the mantle were Dick Grayson the current Nightwing, Tim Drake the current Red Robin (As Damian Wayne was the current Robin) and Jason Todd, former Robin II and current Red Hood. As well Catman and Bane were also trying to keep the streets safe, since Joker, Penguin and Black Mask had devolved into a turf war over Gotham now that Bruce was gone. Dick really didn't want to take the cowl, Jason really wanted to take the cowl and Tim just sort of wanted Dick to man up and take it after Jason was revealed to still be psychotic. Because at the time there existed one kind of Jason Todd story that they just told ad-infinatum. This all eventually lead to Dick vs Jason and Dick officially becoming Batman with Damian as his Robin. Onmi fucked around with this message at 04:07 on Dec 13, 2014 |
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Sssssshit. Gotta fix that. Didn't come out that way in my final recorded, must be Youtube being a goof. I hope. Reuploading now.
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2:00 - aren't you supposed to run over those pads, instead of just walking over them, one at the time?
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I noticed Hatter watching you and Vicki Vale so I saw this coming.  (Actually, I thought he'd go after Vicki first)
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Will try to watch the video. My sound card on my laptop seems to be dying. That being said, I HATE the fact that they show Mad Hatter immediately after you rescue Vicki Vale, especially since 1. He doesn't even do anything in the scene. I thought he was going to kidnap Vicki Vale for being a blonde that reminded him of Alice, but nope. 2. The sidequest about the cure magically being completed becomes less surprising and more "Oh, that's what he was up to." It would've been better if they'd just made the cure thing an event that was a part of the story and then Batman continued on after Harley after dealing with Jervis. There's also the fact that Mad Hatter's sidequest makes no sense to do at the end of the game.
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grandalt posted:Video seems to be a bit broken during the fight with Hatter Yeah, freezes at 18:30. then resumes during the tapes without any audio.
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Okay, so, as noted, there are two main Azraels. One, Jean Paul Valley, had a very interesting beginning with "Sword of Azrael", in that he was the son of a guy also named Jean Paul Valley, both of whom had been part of a secret Knights Templar based organisation called (Gets a bit generic here) the Order of St. Dumas, who trained both Jean Paul Valleys using a regime of hypnosis, genemodding, and other incredibly human-rights ignorant stuff that they just call... The System  An awesome comic. But, ignoring that somewhat generic sounding name convention, the first Azrael we see is killed by an arms dealer called LeHah, and Jean-Paul (formerly a student of some description) gets conscripted into what's basically a holy war against this guy. He and Batman come to blows, LeHah goes seriously nutso and calls himself after a demon, and... Look, no matter how generic and grimdark and whatnot it sounds, it is actually quite awesome, has some cool lines, and has a happier ending.  That costume from that not-so-awesome part of an interesting comic. Then Knightfall came along and shat all over that, because of that "Different writers" thing going on (EDIT: The rationale being that the Batsuit triggered flashbacks to Jean-Paul's "System" training, which was murderous as gently caress). Jean Paul Valley does grow as a character, and in his own comic line, we find the System is a lot nastier than we were originally led to believe (Jean-Paul's a test tube baby, for a start), but is killed off at some point. Michael Lane is his replacement, and... He goes through a very similar loving arc: Gets conscripted, does nasty poo poo, batman beats him up, he realises the Order of St. Dumas are a big ol' pile of shitheels, and tries to atone.  All singing, all dancing, all... Not actually that new Azrael. There's your Jay's Notes summary of Azrael. JamieTheD fucked around with this message at 04:41 on Dec 13, 2014 |
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It's still processing because QUICK UPLOAD but this should be fixed. HD should be available before too long. Youtube or Polsy.
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I believe that puzzle at 2:44 or so is actually solvable by simply sprinting across the plates.
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Mad Hatter's voice is hands-down the best one in the game and series, which is saying something.
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Is that a lady Question off to the right there?
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Major_JF posted:Is that a lady Question off to the right there? Yup, the old question was dying of lung cancer, and since DC can't just let a strong female character be a regular old person(even if they are a cop), he recruited Renee Montoya to be the new Question.
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That last Mad Hatter tape is really creepy. It sounds like Hugo Strange abducted a 12 year old girl to use as bait for the Hatter.
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Major_JF posted:Is that a lady Question off to the right there?
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Bobatron posted:That last Mad Hatter tape is really creepy. It sounds like Hugo Strange abducted a 12 year old girl to use as bait for the Hatter. Considering that Mad Hatter has been hinted to be a pedophile in some comics, that wouldn't be out of character for Mad Hatter to be happy about. Hell, it wouldn't be out of character for Strange to do. 
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