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It only just occured to me now, but why can't ants wear two pairs of gloves if they have four arms?
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Gloves require fingers to stay on. Only one pair of manipulators on Formicids are interfaceable with gloves.  Also the same reason they don't gain an extra set of rings.
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Dec 13, 2014 21:16
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Sage Grimm posted:Also the same reason they don't gain an extra set of rings. It would be incredibly garish?
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FR: Kitten Mittons
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Arrhythmia posted:It would be incredibly garish?
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Dec 13, 2014 21:26
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JollyGreen posted:Can you game manuals of X to get a boost with ash's skill transfer ability? Can you be more specific? There are at least 3 different scenarios you could mean and 2 of them don't work. I have 20 maces, 0 polearms, 0 bows. I have a manual of bows. Transferring skill Maces -> Bows will take advantage of the manual. I have 20 maces, 0 polearms, 0 bows. I have a manual of polearms. Transferring skill Maces -> Polearms -> Bows will not give any benefit. I have 20 maces, 0 polearms, 0 bows. I have a manual of maces. Training maces with the manual and then transferring skill Maces -> Bows will not give any benefit. Someone can feel free to correct me but I believe this is correct. Transfer skill transfers exp, apt only changes the skill you get from gaining a given amount of exp. When you go to transfer the exp, you only transfer the base EXP not the modified value (which I think behind the scenes is "skill points" or something, modified by apt and also IIRC total skills?). e: I asked on IRC and someone pretty knowledgeable thinks Scenarios 2/3 might work??? Read fucked around with this message at 21:58 on Dec 13, 2014 |
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Dec 13, 2014 21:49
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How about scenario #1, but transferring Bows->Maces after using up the manual? Worthwhile or no?
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When are imps going to be a playable race ?
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Dec 13, 2014 22:32
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Why would imps be a playable race?
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Aston posted:When are imps going to be a playable race ? Play a Vampire Warper/Ice Elementalist/Necromancer/(insert iron imp replacement) and stay in Bat Form at all times. E: Also, short-blade stabbing Felid claws has made me enjoy playing a Felid for the first time, please never nerf this. Floodkiller fucked around with this message at 22:52 on Dec 13, 2014 |
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IronicDongz posted:Why would imps be a playable race? I'm not sure I understand this question
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Aston posted:I'm not sure I understand this question Crawl tends to be very rigorous when it comes to adding features/content, so unironically saying "when's X being added" is usually immediately followed by "what would adding X contribute to the game". I mean, being an imp sounds cool, turn the tables and annoy the poo poo out of everyone!
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HisMajestyBOB posted:How about scenario #1, but transferring Bows->Maces after using up the manual? Same benefit either way I think.
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Read posted:Can you be more specific? There are at least 3 different scenarios you could mean and 2 of them don't work.
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kaschei posted:Skill transfer doesn't transfer exp but "skill points". The relative value of skill points is based on the skill level and your aptitude. Using a manual gives you more skill points for the same experience, but your aptitudes don't change, so when you use skill transfer you get the "full value" (according to your aptitudes) for skill points you paid half cost for (thanks to the manual). Ohhhhhhhhhhh. So it does work, okay. Neat!
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drat spellbook writers, always breaking tables with their arcane power   Aston posted:I'm not sure I understand this question e: it would actually be interesting if they sometimes(after gaining a certain amount of XP) randomly switched 'color', like you could be a red imp with high tloc skill and ev and then transform into a iron imp with innate AC instead. of course, the biggest thing to balance around would inevitably be the innate rN+++/torment immunity, poison immunity etc. that comes from being demonic. I would say they could be half-imps but demonspawn already exist? and that already covers most of the flavor that comes from imps anyways LazyMaybe fucked around with this message at 00:22 on Dec 14, 2014 |
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IronicDongz posted:drat spellbook writers, always breaking tables with their arcane power This is even worse offline because you can't even scroll to see the rest of the message.
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I support imp race.
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Thug Lessons posted:I support imp race. yeah, same
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I'm pretty sure I'm going to die horribly because the RNG has been far too kind to me. Haste and cTele castable since mid-Lair, wands of heal wounds and teleport and 6 scrolls of recharging to back them up, Firestorm at 9% with wizardry and a staff of energy so that I don't starve to death when I get to V:5 and firestorm it repeatedly.
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Thug Lessons posted:I support imp race. same, because I just counted and we only have 26 races, which is basically unacceptable
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Arrhythmia posted:same, because I just counted and we only have 26 races, which is basically unacceptable
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Imp is the race we deserve. e: Ascended a HuAM today. Ended up going straight melee as Ru and working translocations to cover for sacrificing scrolls. I can't really tell if Ru is overpowered. At the very least, he's really fun and interesting. Old Dun Cow fucked around with this message at 00:46 on Dec 14, 2014 |
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Have we already forgotten that the only true 27th race is Crabfolk?
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118 goddamn damage from Frederick and his spellforged servitor both iron shotting me at once. RIP.
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Old Dun Cow posted:e: Ascended a HuAM today. Ended up going straight melee as Ru and working translocations to cover for sacrificing scrolls. I can't really tell if Ru is overpowered. At the very least, he's really fun and interesting. I'm not quite convinced on Ru yet, and I've won with him three times so far. The powers are so blatantly overpowered that it kind of overtakes everything else you do on your character. The conduct is far more interesting than the powers, but once you finish the conduct it's just kinda breeze through the rest of the game. The game becomes more about "You are a Ru worshipper" than about "You are an unique race making do with what you found throughout the game, with supplementary god powers". A couple other gods have this problem but none of them as badly as Ru does, IMO. I wonder what the win rate is for characters with max Ru piety, or if it's even possible to do a listgame check with piety filters?
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Brannock posted:I'm not quite convinced on Ru yet, and I've won with him three times so far. The powers are so blatantly overpowered that it kind of overtakes everything else you do on your character. The conduct is far more interesting than the powers, but once you finish the conduct it's just kinda breeze through the rest of the game. The game becomes more about "You are a Ru worshipper" than about "You are an unique race making do with what you found throughout the game, with supplementary god powers". A couple other gods have this problem but none of them as badly as Ru does, IMO. You still kind of have to APOCALYPSE  responsibly, I imagine less experienced players have trouble gauging the situation correctly, kind of how you can get Death's Door but still somehow royally mess up your escape from the Bad Situation. I totally agree with how Ru overtakes everything else you do, but I guess that goes hand in hand with taking away your options through sacrifices. With its current design I imagine Ru could be slightly less powerful with slightly less harsh sacrifices overall.
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Brannock posted:I'm not quite convinced on Ru yet, and I've won with him three times so far. The powers are so blatantly overpowered that it kind of overtakes everything else you do on your character. The conduct is far more interesting than the powers, but once you finish the conduct it's just kinda breeze through the rest of the game. The game becomes more about "You are a Ru worshipper" than about "You are an unique race making do with what you found throughout the game, with supplementary god powers". A couple other gods have this problem but none of them as badly as Ru does, IMO. Trog: 11.72% Ru: 23.12% Fedhas: 24.54% TSO: 41.16% the query is !lm * god=ru god.maxpiety / won
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Brannock posted:I wonder what the win rate is for characters with max Ru piety, or if it's even possible to do a listgame check with piety filters? Sequell | 133/550 games for * (ru piety>=160): N=133/550 (24.18%) kaschei posted:the query is !lm * god=ru god.maxpiety / won 143406 milestones for * (god.maxpiety): count(game_key)=136222 A single game can have many milestones where the player was at maxpiety. Nevermind, forgot god.maxpiety is a milestone not a variable check. Read fucked around with this message at 01:38 on Dec 14, 2014 |
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IronicDongz posted:Like, what would be the mechanical differences between them and species that already exist? The other species are not imps, but this one would be an imp.
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Small size, innate flight at a certain point and much like Draconians they can get a colour at somewhere around XL5. Red: Blink mutation, rF+, rC- White: Ice magic aptitude boost, rC+, rF- Shadow: Necromancy aptitude boost, rN+ stealth+ Iron: iunno. AC and HP boost? Maybe rElec?
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just edit your rcfile to make your tile an imp's
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Ok ok, Crabfolks and Imps don't have to compete for race 27, just add Impcrabs
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Oh man that was a nasty splat.quote:Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.16-a0-3125-g5b673fb (webtiles) character file. code:Please pay attention to where you 'o'.
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Did you think you could take them? Because I don't see any indication you read your scroll of teleport as soon as you, quite literally, ran into that situation.
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Those new Orc vaults with the trolls and giants and whatnot are catching so many people off guard.
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So I just cast singularity over the lava in Cerebov's chamber to see if he could be incinerated and instead I think I found a bug. He got pulled in but didn't die, but now he can't move either so he's just hanging out, dueling with my singularities. Welp nevermind, turns out I just didn't pull him far enough in. He doesn't incinerate though, he drowns! Also as it turns out, are there any plans to make a translocations staff now that there are actually fun offensive spells in the school? Person Dyslexic fucked around with this message at 03:44 on Dec 14, 2014 |
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Sage Grimm posted:Did you think you could take them? Because I don't see any indication you read your scroll of teleport as soon as you, quite literally, ran into that situation. code:
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Good man, thought you were making a last stand in front of the entrance to that vault instead.
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