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Roman Reigns
Aug 23, 2007

Two Beans posted:

Gonna make it Reign up in this bitch.

*closes fist, caresses own arm*

I really really hope he was told to say and do that.

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achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?

Thauros posted:

Everyone loved him before the Shield broke up, a lot of PSP started getting tired of him during his singles face push.

I have nothing against the guy but he'd be much, much cooler if he was booked more like Goldberg and less like Cena.
Book him more like the Rock, hell for Wrestlemania have the Rock be in his corner... actually that might backfire horribly, but I would love to see Heyman take a Rock Bottom

projecthalaxy
Dec 27, 2008

Yes hello it is I Kurt's Secret Son


Man, if R-evolution was what the baby developmental league can do this week, I can't wait to see how stellar a show TLC+S is, since it's all the people too good for NXT!

rare Magic card l00k
Jan 3, 2011


Roman Reigns is hated because people perceive him as someone WWE wants to be over.

That's it.

Anybody who pretends it has anything to do with what talent Reigns has or does not have is lying.

We're talking about people who bitched about Reigns being shoved down our throats by having an injury update that took maybe a minute.

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CblP1cx7lD4
Yeah this guy has no personality and no charisma yep

Dimebags Brain
Feb 18, 2013





achillesforever6 posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CblP1cx7lD4
Yeah this guy has no personality and no charisma yep

Eww listen to that accent noway some dude with an accent could ever be a star. (Schwarzenegger who?)

21 Hoot Salute
Feb 8, 2005

Night-time, turn around
Lonely is the city tonight
Night-time, all around
Lonely in the city tonight



Dust Bros vs NEW DAY on the kickoff tonight, looks like

Daniel Bryan
May 23, 2006

GOAT

21 Hoot Salute posted:

Dust Bros vs NEW DAY on the kickoff tonight, looks like

Yeah it was announced on Raw. Shows they have a lot of faith in the New Day to make those last minute Network buys.

Supreme Allah
Oct 6, 2004

everybody relax, i'm here
Nap Ghost

ThatWhiteGuy posted:

I seriously don't get the hate for Roman Reigns. Everyone loved him before his surgery, now most of you seem to hate him because of a few bad scripted promos. The guy rules at what he does, and he'll probably be even cooler now that he doesn't have a hernia holding him back. Believe that

There is almost always resentment to a 'pretty boy chosen one'. Reigns is good and fun to watch, and in the right spots he's fantastic.

Ganso Bomb
Oct 24, 2005

turn it all around

Yeah, I think the main thing is that it's obvious that WWE wants Reigns to be the guy. Nevermind the fact that crowds love Ambrose, were loving Cesaro, etc. yet those guys won't be given the same shot as the main-main event dude. They got over but they're only allowed to hit a certain ceiling because they weren't the guys who WWE thought would be the MOST over. It's lovely and stupid and sad.

21 Hoot Salute
Feb 8, 2005

Night-time, turn around
Lonely is the city tonight
Night-time, all around
Lonely in the city tonight



Daniel Bryan posted:

Yeah it was announced on Raw. Shows they have a lot of faith in the New Day to make those last minute Network buys.

You don't want to see The New Day, YOU WANT TO SEE STARDUST

bradzilla
Oct 15, 2004

Alan_Shore posted:

Reigns is better than Cena, believe that.

lmao not even loving close

Malcolm Excellent
May 20, 2007

Buglord
This NXT show is pretty good. The name sucks though. R EVOLUTION, loving pirate show

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

I don't think Reigns is ready or this will feel right but I'm lost as to what would work better. I can't think of a single satisfying Rumble push or story to tell. Part of that is that I just don't give any poo poo about the World Title and think it's a bit of a joke since Brock's been gone forever. So I kind of just want anyone to take the belt off Brock so this idiotic "never have the champ around" experiment can end and I can get back to being dissatisfied by the world title program instead of forgetting the world title exists.

The only story I could possibly imagine being excited for is some talented young face getting an upset Rumble win and pushing that he wants to bring the belt back to WWE and be a fighting champion. But I can't think of anyone in the right position on the card and with the right makeup for that to work with. Ziggler is the closest, I guess. And that's not happening. There's just no one who feels hot in WWE to me. Cesaro's too cold. Ambrose is in a weird place story wise.

So give it Reigns. Whatever. Nothing better going.

DEAR RICHARD
Feb 5, 2009

IT'S TIME FOR MY TOOLS
Reigns was my least favorite Agent of Shield

Auron
Jan 10, 2002
<img alt="" border="0" src="https://fi.somethingawful.com/customtitles/title-auron.jpg"/><br/>Drunken Robot Rage

Great White Hope posted:

Roman Reigns is hated because people perceive him as someone WWE wants to be over.

That's it.

Anybody who pretends it has anything to do with what talent Reigns has or does not have is lying.

We're talking about people who bitched about Reigns being shoved down our throats by having an injury update that took maybe a minute.

Perceive? No, he's being force fed to us and delivering some of the douchiest promos (which are probably scripted). The casual fans aren't accepting it either except for women. His whole act is old already.

Talent wise he has shown very little to show that he is a top level guy. He has no gas tank and is overall a little sluggish in the ring, especially when he's not really that big of a guy as they try to make him seem. Saying that we are lying about his talent (or lack of) is horseshit.

It has very little to do with the MULTIPLE (not one) post injury promos. All this came up WAY before his injury. You are wrong.

bradzilla
Oct 15, 2004

STAC Goat posted:

I don't think Reigns is ready or this will feel right but I'm lost as to what would work better. I can't think of a single satisfying Rumble push or story to tell. Part of that is that I just don't give any poo poo about the World Title and think it's a bit of a joke since Brock's been gone forever. So I kind of just want anyone to take the belt off Brock so this idiotic "never have the champ around" experiment can end and I can get back to being dissatisfied by the world title program instead of forgetting the world title exists.

The only story I could possibly imagine being excited for is some talented young face getting an upset Rumble win and pushing that he wants to bring the belt back to WWE and be a fighting champion. But I can't think of anyone in the right position on the card and with the right makeup for that to work with. Ziggler is the closest, I guess. And that's not happening. There's just no one who feels hot in WWE to me. Cesaro's too cold. Ambrose is in a weird place story wise.

So give it Reigns. Whatever. Nothing better going.

Daniel Bryan returns to run wild with no Authority is a storyline I'd watch.

Jetfire
Apr 29, 2008

DEAR RICHARD posted:

Reigns was my least favorite Agent of Shield

At least it was just his abdomen that got hit with the Terrigen Mist.

rare Magic card l00k
Jan 3, 2011


Auron posted:

Perceive? No, he's being force fed to us and delivering some of the douchiest promos (which are probably scripted). The casual fans aren't accepting it either except for women. His whole act is old already.

Talent wise he has shown very little to show that he is a top level guy. He has no gas tank and is overall a little sluggish in the ring, especially when he's not really that big of a guy as they try to make him seem. Saying that we are lying about his talent (or lack of) is horseshit.

It has very little to do with the MULTIPLE (not one) post injury promos. All this came up WAY before his injury. You are wrong.

Those sure are a lot of things I didn't say, but thanks for expressing your anger at the state of WWE by making things up to fit your delusions.

Malcolm Excellent
May 20, 2007

Buglord
The ascension guys looking confused at devitts entrance.

DeathChicken
Jul 9, 2012

Nonsense. I have not yet begun to defile myself.

You guys who want the title off of Brock must really be looking forward to another yearlong Cena reign. The champ is hereuh

Alaois
Feb 7, 2012

Auron posted:

Perceive? No, he's being force fed to us and delivering some of the douchiest promos (which are probably scripted). The casual fans aren't accepting it either except for women. His whole act is old already.

Talent wise he has shown very little to show that he is a top level guy. He has no gas tank and is overall a little sluggish in the ring, especially when he's not really that big of a guy as they try to make him seem. Saying that we are lying about his talent (or lack of) is horseshit.

It has very little to do with the MULTIPLE (not one) post injury promos. All this came up WAY before his injury. You are wrong.

ugh those fuking WOMEN

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

DeathChicken posted:

You guys who want the title off of Brock must really be looking forward to another yearlong Cena reign. The champ is hereuh

I genuinely don't see how Brock holding the title forever and never even showing up is an improvement. A Cena reign will probably suck but Brock's reign has been a joke.

So like I said, whatever. Give it to Reigns. At least it gets the title back in WWE. Right now the World Title might as well be retired.

STAC Goat fucked around with this message at 20:46 on Dec 14, 2014

rare Magic card l00k
Jan 3, 2011


STAC Goat posted:

I genuinely don't see how Brock holding the title forever and never even showing up is an improvement. A Cena reign will probably suck but Brock's reign has been a joke.

If there were a storyline reason he weren't there, even one as flimsy as "Brock is a huge loving rear end in a top hat and feels you don't deserve to be in his presence", it'd be alright. Maybe even good.

Instead he's not around just because meh.

Auron
Jan 10, 2002
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Great White Hope posted:

Those sure are a lot of things I didn't say, but thanks for expressing your anger at the state of WWE by making things up to fit your delusions.

What? I quoted exactly what you said. You said people who hate reigns because of his talent or lack of are lying. Or were you saying People who think Reigns is being pushed because of talent are lying?

Sir Jebus
Feb 9, 2010

The only hero left for man is weed.

Supreme Allah posted:

There is almost always resentment to a 'pretty boy chosen one'. Reigns is good and fun to watch, and in the right spots he's fantastic.

The problem is the right spots are as the big muscle guy in the shield and not PPV main event singles matches.

Jetfire
Apr 29, 2008

Supreme Allah posted:

There is almost always resentment to a 'pretty boy chosen one'.

Keep Drew McIntyre out of this.

Perry Normal
Jul 23, 2010

Humans disgust me. Vile creatures.


I love this goofy bullshit.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

Great White Hope posted:

If there were a storyline reason he weren't there, even one as flimsy as "Brock is a huge loving rear end in a top hat and feels you don't deserve to be in his presence", it'd be alright. Maybe even good.

Instead he's not around just because meh.

I actually kind of like Cena just because he's brought this bullshit up and seems to be the only one who cares. Shouldn't the Authority have been pissed their champ wasn't around or even showing up for PPVs? Isn't the belt supposed to be defended every 30 days or something like that? Shouldn't Rollins be pissed that his MitB win has basically been invalidated because the champ is never around for him to cash it in?

It's just so bizare to me. The WWE World Champion hasn't defended the belt in months, hasn't even been seen in months, and no one (fan or wrestler) seems to care.

Dimebags Brain
Feb 18, 2013





Well you see, Brock lording his title over everyone and being there does nothing to get Cena over so why even bother?

Valeyard
Mar 30, 2012


Grimey Drawer
Is there actually a TLC match tonight?

Truther Vandross
Jun 17, 2008

Valeyard posted:

Is there actually a TLC match tonight?

Ambrose-Wyatt

Jetfire
Apr 29, 2008

sportsgenius86 posted:

Ambrose-Wyatt

I like how they don't even mention the fact that there's nothing hanging from the ceiling this time around. It's just a TLC match. Use stuff.

Dimebags Brain
Feb 18, 2013





The six way TLC match at TLC 2012 had nothing hanging from the ring so I don't know why people are getting caught up on this.

The Landstander
Apr 20, 2004

I stand on land.
John Cena's TLC record:'
2009 - Lost WWE Championship to Sheamus in tables match after Cena fell of his own volition
2010 - Beat Wade Barrett and threw a lot of chairs on him
2011 - Off card to try a PPV headlined by [redacted]
2012 - Lost to Dolph Ziggler in a ladder match, losing an opportunity for the Money in the Bank briefcase
2013 - Lost his World Heavyweight Championship to WWE Champion Randy Orton in a TLC match to unite the belts in the greatest match in sports entertainment history (unironically tho it was pretty good)

Even if Cena/Lesnar 3 ultimately happens - which I hope it doesn't anyway - I think a Rollins win could make the road there much more interesting. Let's make it 1-4! :toot:

The Landstander fucked around with this message at 21:16 on Dec 14, 2014

Sprecherscrow
Dec 20, 2009

The Landstander posted:

John Cena's TLC record:'
2009 - Lost WWE Championship to Sheamus in tables match after Cena fell of his own volition
2010 - Beat Wade Barrett and threw a lot of chairs on him
2011 - Off card to try a PPV headlined by [redacted]
2012 - Lost to Dolph Ziggler in a TLC match, losing an opportunity for the Money in the Bank briefcase
2013 - Lost his World Heavyweight Championship to WWE Champion Randy Orton in a TLC match to unite the belts in the greatest match in sports entertainment history (unironically tho it was pretty good)

Even if Cena/Lesnar 3 ultimately happens - which I hope it doesn't anyway - I think a Rollins win could make the road there much more interesting. Let's make it 1-4! :toot:

I know it's really trivial, but Cena/Ziggler was a regular ladder match, TLC that year was Shield vs. Hell No and Ryback.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

I strongly agree with whoever said that if Cena loses tonight he wins the Rumble. So it's lose lose. If Rollins gets the win it just means no Rumble title defense and Cena winning the Rumble.

I know that sounds jaded but I really can't work out the argument to shoot it down.

The Landstander
Apr 20, 2004

I stand on land.
Whoops fixed.

Also, so, it's a ladder match now if something is hanging (i.e. Ziggler/Cena, Harper/Ziggler) but a TLC match if you're just allowed to use those weapons (i.e. Shield/Ryback & Hell No, Ambrose/Wyatt)? i think the distinction is probably meaningless nevermind

The Landstander fucked around with this message at 21:19 on Dec 14, 2014

rovert
Jun 10, 2013
Was set to tape around July originally but seemed like a budget cut. Anyway according to a fansite WWE is currently filming the 2015 Diva Search:

quote:

Yes ladies and gentleman your eyes are not deceiving you,it seems like the WWE will be introducing a new set of women into the world of professional wrestling.A few girls have hinted that they where doing something with WWE and it seems like this will air on the WWE network some has reported,so here’s the Diva search girls

1. Darya Savishkina

2. Aqueela Zoll

3. Stephanie Claire Smith

4. Ellie Gonsalves

5. Racheal Harpe

6. Mercedes Terrell

7. Tamara Goodwin

8. London Kasmir

9. Jamie Choi

10. Cindy Prado

11. Katelynn Ansari

12. Sabine Jemeljanova

13. Aneta Kowal

14. Kennedy Summers

15. Tabby Brown

Congratulations to all the ladies and good luck!



Id like to think the 2015 Diva Search is Kevin Dunn's retaliation over the NXT women.

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Jetfire
Apr 29, 2008

Dimebags Brain posted:

The six way TLC match at TLC 2012 had nothing hanging from the ring so I don't know why people are getting caught up on this.

I guess a multi-man TLC just "feels" right because they were originally multi-man spotfest clusterfucks. The idea of a one-on-one TLC match feels off without the ladder match gimmick. This is entirely personal though and can be ignored as long as it's a good match.

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