IronicDongz posted:

No, it's actually because it's a really really dumb idea.

Mzbundifund posted:

If you had told me this was Microsoft's plan back when they first bought Minecraft, I wouldn't have been able to pick it out of the joke predictions at ALL. This is so great - exactly the sort of madness and uncomprehending flailing I hoped we would get to see from Microsoft.

Tobaccrow posted:

A Lego movie? That's STUPID!

Erwin the German posted:

Harminoff posted:

Hey look a new minecraft story has been announced!


https://mojang.com/2014/12/play-info-quest-ii-you-might-learn-something/

What the?

Magmarashi posted:

Dumb nerds getting really fought up over this announcement is the best part about the whole thing

Erwin the German posted:

Cheez posted:

This is entirely stupid and bad, though. How can you even do this unless all you're doing is making up some random story centered around the handful of minecraft monsters, world stuff, items and make it look like cubes and poo poo? There's absolutely no point in making a game like this unless it's to exploit little kids and other kinds of people who don't think about Minecraft on a deeper level than "is this awesome thing I like" because there's nothing to Minecraft that suggests a story-based game could work. Minecraft can be summed up as "You exist, there's monsters, everything is blocky and/or cubes, and you make stuff."

Tobaccrow posted:

A Lego movie? That's STUPID!

Cheez posted:

This is entirely stupid and bad, though. How can you even do this unless all you're doing is making up some random story centered around the handful of minecraft monsters, world stuff, items and make it look like cubes and poo poo? There's absolutely no point in making a game like this unless it's to exploit little kids and other kinds of people who don't think about Minecraft on a deeper level than "is this awesome thing I like" because there's nothing to Minecraft that suggests a story-based game could work. Minecraft can be summed up as "You exist, there's monsters, everything is blocky and/or cubes, and you make stuff."

Schweinhund posted:

OwlFancier posted:

Not sure you can 'exploit' kids by making dumb tie in crap to their favorite stuff. Kids tend to like dumb tie in crap. I wish I still had my giant millennium falcon.

Cheez posted:

The Lego Movie was a stupid idea, and so is Lego's obsession with making every other existing franchise into a Lego franchise. Even dumber? The Lego Movie Lego sets.

Cheez posted:

This is entirely stupid and bad, though. How can you even do this unless all you're doing is making up some random story centered around the handful of minecraft monsters, world stuff, items and make it look like cubes and poo poo? There's absolutely no point in making a game like this unless it's to exploit little kids and other kinds of people who don't think about Minecraft on a deeper level than "is this awesome thing I like" because there's nothing to Minecraft that suggests a story-based game could work. Minecraft can be summed up as "You exist, there's monsters, everything is blocky and/or cubes, and you make stuff."

Cheez posted:

The Lego Movie was a stupid idea, and so is Lego's obsession with making every other existing franchise into a Lego franchise. Even dumber? The Lego Movie Lego sets.

Cheez posted:

The Lego Movie was a stupid idea, and so is Lego's obsession with making every other existing franchise into a Lego franchise. Even dumber? The Lego Movie Lego sets.

Cheez posted:

This is entirely stupid and bad, though. How can you even do this unless all you're doing is making up some random story centered around the handful of minecraft monsters, world stuff, items and make it look like cubes and poo poo? There's absolutely no point in making a game like this unless it's to exploit little kids and other kinds of people who don't think about Minecraft on a deeper level than "is this awesome thing I like" because there's nothing to Minecraft that suggests a story-based game could work. Minecraft can be summed up as "You exist, there's monsters, everything is blocky and/or cubes, and you make stuff."

Cheez posted:

Well ok then, keep being excited for "Minecraft, but without the part that makes it Minecraft".

I guess you are literally children, and there's nothing I can do to change your mind, because you love tie-in crap.

Cheez posted:

Well ok then, keep being excited for "Minecraft, but without the part that makes it Minecraft".

I guess you are literally children, and there's nothing I can do to change your mind, because you love tie-in crap.

Eye of Widesauron posted:

*hitches up big boy pants and struts into Games*
I'm gonna get really pissed off about a new minecraft game and have strong opinions about the lego franchise sucking and furthermore you people are children

Cheez posted:

It has gently caress all to do with any of that. It's a stupid, pointless gesture that only exists to make money, because you could remove all the lego bits from the Lego movie and it would not make a difference. On the same token, you could remove all the minecraft bits from the upcoming Minecraft game and it wouldn't make a difference, because there's nothing there. It all has to be made up from nothing. That's what pisses me off. Telltale's previous games all have the backing of an existing lore, an existing set of ideas and characters and all that poo poo, and they can work with that. Great. But for Minecraft, nothing exists. It's doing it for the sake of being Minecraft. It has all the depth of an internet meme.

Cheez posted:

It has gently caress all to do with any of that. It's a stupid, pointless gesture that only exists to make money, because you could remove all the lego bits from the Lego movie and it would not make a difference. On the same token, you could remove all the minecraft bits from the upcoming Minecraft game and it wouldn't make a difference, because there's nothing there. It all has to be made up from nothing. That's what pisses me off. Telltale's previous games all have the backing of an existing lore, an existing set of ideas and characters and all that poo poo, and they can work with that. Great. But for Minecraft, nothing exists. It's doing it for the sake of being Minecraft. It has all the depth of an internet meme.

Cheez posted:

It's a stupid, pointless gesture

Enzer posted:

Speaking of Minecraft related things people are getting irrationally angry about.

Mojang is now working in compliance with COPPA, as it is now owned by a US Company. What this means is that for US players under the age of 13 have had their Mojang accounts restricted (Meaning that they cannot chat in Scrolls, make further purchases, change any settings for their account or play on a MC Realms server.. they don't care about privately run servers as its on those server's owners to comply with COPPA, not Mojang) and require a 10 Cent Credit Card fee to prove parental consent (or for the parents to print out a form, scan and email it to Mojang). Now, this is something everyone in the US has to abide by and the 10 cent fee route is what most companies do. It also doesn't even cover the transaction fee and so Mojang is actually losing money on this.

"I tried to play Minecraft today with my little girl who lives in another state with my mother, we only have a limited time to play together every Wednesday. We call it Skype-craft.
Unfortunately, Mojang/Microsoft now charges a parental consent fee of 10 cent per player under the age of 13. My mother isn’t too computer savvy and we never got to play because she spent our 'slotted time' figuring this out. Ah well, we still got to talk, she really loves to play though. :/
Im curious if someone could do the math on this? How many player accounts are under the age of 13/ how much money will they make getting 10 cent from each of those accounts?"

" Im just not on board 100% with things changing just because the name changed hands. "

"I was actually considering buying a realm so that my siblings and I could play together. Not anymore."

"Haha wow, what a crock of poo poo."

"I actually think that the restriction on MineCraft Realms for children under the age of 13 is straight-up dumb and unnecessary. Realms are easy to set-up MineCraft servers which kids would like to play on, On public servers, Kids get grieffed and that upsets them, To restrict children under the age of 13 playing them is complete bullshit."

"And so the nickle and dime-ing begins."



https://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/1780997-mojang-account-users-under-13

Cheez posted:

It has gently caress all to do with any of that. It's a stupid, pointless gesture that only exists to make money, because you could remove all the lego bits from the Lego movie and it would not make a difference. On the same token, you could remove all the minecraft bits from the upcoming Minecraft game and it wouldn't make a difference, because there's nothing there. It all has to be made up from nothing. That's what pisses me off. Telltale's previous games all have the backing of an existing lore, an existing set of ideas and characters and all that poo poo, and they can work with that. Great. But for Minecraft, nothing exists. It's doing it for the sake of being Minecraft. It has all the depth of an internet meme.

Enzer posted:

Speaking of Minecraft related things people are getting irrationally angry about.

Mojang is now working in compliance with COPPA, as it is now owned by a US Company. What this means is that for US players under the age of 13 have had their Mojang accounts restricted (Meaning that they cannot chat in Scrolls, make further purchases, change any settings for their account or play on a MC Realms server.. they don't care about privately run servers as its on those server's owners to comply with COPPA, not Mojang) and require a 10 Cent Credit Card fee to prove parental consent (or for the parents to print out a form, scan and email it to Mojang). Now, this is something everyone in the US has to abide by and the 10 cent fee route is what most companies do. It also doesn't even cover the transaction fee and so Mojang is actually losing money on this.

"I tried to play Minecraft today with my little girl who lives in another state with my mother, we only have a limited time to play together every Wednesday. We call it Skype-craft.
Unfortunately, Mojang/Microsoft now charges a parental consent fee of 10 cent per player under the age of 13. My mother isn’t too computer savvy and we never got to play because she spent our 'slotted time' figuring this out. Ah well, we still got to talk, she really loves to play though. :/
Im curious if someone could do the math on this? How many player accounts are under the age of 13/ how much money will they make getting 10 cent from each of those accounts?"

" Im just not on board 100% with things changing just because the name changed hands. "

"I was actually considering buying a realm so that my siblings and I could play together. Not anymore."

"Haha wow, what a crock of poo poo."

"I actually think that the restriction on MineCraft Realms for children under the age of 13 is straight-up dumb and unnecessary. Realms are easy to set-up MineCraft servers which kids would like to play on, On public servers, Kids get grieffed and that upsets them, To restrict children under the age of 13 playing them is complete bullshit."

"And so the nickle and dime-ing begins."



https://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/1780997-mojang-account-users-under-13

ToastyPotato posted:

I have never heard of this law until just now.

"Any U.S. company who operates a commercial website or an online service that collects, uses, or discloses personal information from U.S. children under age 13 and who is directed to children under 13 or has actual knowledge that a user is under 13 must comply with the Children's Online Privacy Protection Act."

How does MC in anyway do this? Just enter a fake age or something. MC doesn't check ID. This is dumb and I am pretty sure no one will actually have to paay this. I don't remember my Mojang account asking me my age.

Macaluso posted:

Sorry if I come across as a complete idiot, but does this COPPA thing only affect specific games? I've never heard of this before. Like I don't recall you needing to pay a parental consent fee for things like the WoW free trial and stuff. I can understand being annoyed by this as I haven't heard about it before (although even still, I can't imagine it's a complicated process to deal with)

COPPA posted:

1. What is the Children’s Online Privacy Protection Rule?

Congress enacted the Children’s Online Privacy Protection Act (COPPA) in 1998. COPPA required the Federal Trade Commission to issue and enforce regulations concerning children’s online privacy. The Commission’s original COPPA Rule became effective on April 21, 2000. The Commission issued an amended Rule on December 19, 2012. The amended Rule will become effective on July 1, 2013.

The primary goal of COPPA is to place parents in control over what information is collected from their young children online. The Rule was designed to protect children under age 13 while accounting for the dynamic nature of the Internet. The Rule applies to operators of commercial websites and online services (including mobile apps) directed to children under 13 that collect, use, or disclose personal information from children, and operators of general audience websites or online services with actual knowledge that they are collecting, using, or disclosing personal information from children under 13. The Rule also applies to websites or online services that have actual knowledge that they are collecting personal information directly from users of another website or online service directed to children. Operators covered by the Rule must:

Post a clear and comprehensive online privacy policy describing their information practices for personal information collected online from children;
Provide direct notice to parents and obtain verifiable parental consent, with limited exceptions, before collecting personal information online from children;
Give parents the choice of consenting to the operator’s collection and internal use of a child’s information, but prohibiting the operator from disclosing that information to third parties (unless disclosure is integral to the site or service, in which case, this must be made clear to parents);
Provide parents access to their child's personal information to review and/or have the information deleted;
Give parents the opportunity to prevent further use or online collection of a child's personal information;
Maintain the confidentiality, security, and integrity of information they collect from children, including by taking reasonable steps to release such information only to parties capable of maintaining its confidentiality and security; and
Retain personal information collected online from a child for only as long as is necessary to fulfill the purpose for which it was collected and delete the information using reasonable measures to protect against its unauthorized access or use.


2. Who is covered by COPPA?

The Rule applies to operators of commercial websites and online services (including mobile apps) directed to children under 13 that collect, use, or disclose personal information from children. It also applies to operators of general audience websites or online services with actual knowledge that they are collecting, using, or disclosing personal information from children under 13. The Rule also applies to websites or online services that have actual knowledge that they are collecting personal information directly from users of another website or online service directed to children.

3. What is Personal Information?

The amended Rule defines personal information to include:

First and last name;
A home or other physical address including street name and name of a city or town;
Online contact information;
A screen or user name that functions as online contact information;
A telephone number;
A social security number;
A persistent identifier that can be used to recognize a user over time and across different websites or online services;
A photograph, video, or audio file, where such file contains a child’s image or voice;
Geolocation information sufficient to identify street name and name of a city or town; or
Information concerning the child or the parents of that child that the operator collects online from the child and combines with an identifier described above.

ToastyPotato posted:

I have never heard of this law until just now.

"Any U.S. company who operates a commercial website or an online service that collects, uses, or discloses personal information from U.S. children under age 13 and who is directed to children under 13 or has actual knowledge that a user is under 13 must comply with the Children's Online Privacy Protection Act."

How does MC in anyway do this? Just enter a fake age or something. MC doesn't check ID. This is dumb and I am pretty sure no one will actually have to paay this. I don't remember my Mojang account asking me my age.

Cheez posted:

Magmarashi posted:

Dumb nerds getting really fought up over this announcement is the best part about the whole thing

OwlFancier posted:

Yeah gently caress making poo poo up from nowhere, that is totally unfaithful to the VISION of minecraft, a game made up from nowhere about making your own poo poo up when you play it. gently caress creativity.