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The Big Taff Man
Nov 22, 2005


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Steve2911 posted:

Tom was massively deserving. He just didn't fit the stupid model.

Lol, no he wasnt.

He was on the losing team on 8 of the 11 weeks he was project manager once and lost that, he should have been sacked early in the process (week 4), he did nothing of note, and his business plan was to create a company supplying specialist products for people with back problems. He got the job because he brought his old product into play.

He was poo poo, goons love him because he was a geeky loser.

Helen was by far the deserved winner that series

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Rondette
Nov 4, 2009

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Good.

Devol_Tettran
Sep 3, 2011



Clever Betty
Do you have an Apprentice notebook Taff (or just go back to wikipedia like the rest of us)?


Final on sunday? Feck, I'm probably going to be down the pub.

Robnoxious
Feb 17, 2004

This process has been arbitrary... Bianca has this on lockdown.

Rondette
Nov 4, 2009

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Aww I heart Solomon.

eating only apples
Dec 12, 2009

Shall we dance?
Go go snakey Mark, snake it to the end!

The Big Taff Man
Nov 22, 2005


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Devol_Tettran posted:

Do you have an Apprentice notebook Taff (or just go back to wikipedia like the rest of us)?


Final on sunday? Feck, I'm probably going to be down the pub.

I get really annoyed that people say Tom was a good candidate when he did gently caress all. He was such a shite winner

Rondette
Nov 4, 2009

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The Big Taff Man posted:

I get really annoyed that people say Tom was a good candidate when he did gently caress all. He was such a shite winner

Oh I am totally biased, I thought he was a sweetheart. Rubbish winner yeah but I don't care :allears:

stev
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.



The Big Taff Man posted:

I get really annoyed that people say Tom was a good candidate when he did gently caress all. He was such a shite winner

Ok, he was a bad Apprentice candidate. He was just a nice guy (a rare breed on this show) with enough of a creative spark to make him useful.

'Not a oval office' can be a huge asset in the real world. Shockingly.

Robnoxious
Feb 17, 2004

Solomon and the ties. :lol:

Windsor knots are hard. :/

edit: Oh my, Roisin looks smashing!

Robnoxious fucked around with this message at 23:13 on Dec 17, 2014

Rondette
Nov 4, 2009

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Roisin looks very orange

Rondette
Nov 4, 2009

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Robnoxious posted:

Solomon and the ties. :lol:

Windsor knots are hard. :/

edit: Oh my, Roisin looks smashing!

If she wasn't so orange! she does look good though.

Devol_Tettran
Sep 3, 2011



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Robnoxious posted:

edit: Oh my, Roisin looks smashing!

:yum:

Robnoxious
Feb 17, 2004

Now we get easy breezy Daniel?

LOL

Pissflaps
Oct 20, 2002

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Can't see anything but a Bianca win. If Sugar wanted to sell SEO he'd be doing it already.

Robnoxious
Feb 17, 2004

So what time Sunday does this finale kick off?

Two hour finale starting @ 8:00?

Bacon Terrorist
May 7, 2010

to ride eternal, shiny and chrome

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2022
Solomon only realising that an 8 page business plan full of the same picture over and over again was a bad idea after he got called out on it... For £250,000 it's not a shock they want dissertation levels of detail.

Surprised Roisin went but her idea was poor, Bianca looks locked in, I'm a bit annoyed because I feel like she was poo poo in a lot of tasks but maybe I just took a dislike to her and it's stuck.

Junkenstein
Oct 22, 2003

Anyone else get the feeling that Karen Brady is only there to scout out the actually good people and offer them jobs with her? Is that something that's ever happened?

If they were serious about 'The Process', they'd let Suralun vet a load of anonymous business plans, choose the ones he'd be willing to go into partnership with, then let the tasks play out without knowing each contestant's plan, just the knowledge that he'd be happy to put his money into any of them. This halfway house between The Apprentice and Dragon's Den sucks.

Paragon8
Feb 19, 2007

Is the 250k actually Sugar's or just the BBC's?

The process sort of made some kind of sense when you had the impression he's looking for some skilled executive that can handle all kinds of silly bullshit.

Roisin was such a disappointment though. Wasn't there a similar case a few seasons ago? Some super competent person wanted to run a luxury concierge service which was just a silly idea.

Paperhouse
Dec 31, 2008

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Paragon8 posted:

Is the 250k actually Sugar's or just the BBC's?

The process sort of made some kind of sense when you had the impression he's looking for some skilled executive that can handle all kinds of silly bullshit.

Roisin was such a disappointment though. Wasn't there a similar case a few seasons ago? Some super competent person wanted to run a luxury concierge service which was just a silly idea.

It's talked about like it's his, £250k isn't really anything to him and he probably gets more than that for doing the show anyway.

Roisin was really good and her idea isn't bad, it's just impossible to launch something like that with £250k. I thought it was a bit disingenuous for them to say that her idea already exists - the major ingredient is available as plain shirataki noodles and apparently as some other ready meal noodle box, but her point was that it can be used to do much more that doesn't exist. I doubt she'll get it off the ground but somebody definitely will and they'll make a lot of money

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

Paragon8 posted:

Roisin was such a disappointment though. Wasn't there a similar case a few seasons ago? Some super competent person wanted to run a luxury concierge service which was just a silly idea.

Yeah she Neil Cloughed it :(

Paragon8
Feb 19, 2007

To make it really crazy they should up the prize to 5 million or something like that for a season.

Bianca's idea while good seems like it would just be squashed by a larger competitor simply adding a few more colours and having better access to retail space and relationships with manufacturers.

Roisin's failure with the foodstuffs seems to be more about poor planning and scope. The point about how she plans to get it in 100 supermarkets was really the killer not to mention trying to get loans based on the first investment. Comes across as someone super successful in her career thinking that'll immediately translate to a different field.

It really shows how confused the show's premise has become. Are they supposed to be creative idea people? Competent business people?

Do we ever get to find out the rest of the business plans from the fired people? or is that covered by the after show?

8raz
Jun 22, 2007


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The interviews episode is always a highlight but it's really annoying that they try and catch people out in really dishonest ways. Don't get me wrong, I know that they do whatever it takes to make it an entertaining show but this is the first time I've just thought the whole process just bullshit. The interviewers will tear apart anyone and Lord Sugar can chat absolute rubbish these days just to stamp his authority.

Actually gently caress it. It's always been ridiculous, this series has been more transparent than ever though.

Rondette
Nov 4, 2009

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Paperhouse posted:

It's talked about like it's his, £250k isn't really anything to him and he probably gets more than that for doing the show anyway.

Roisin was really good and her idea isn't bad, it's just impossible to launch something like that with £250k. I thought it was a bit disingenuous for them to say that her idea already exists - the major ingredient is available as plain shirataki noodles and apparently as some other ready meal noodle box, but her point was that it can be used to do much more that doesn't exist. I doubt she'll get it off the ground but somebody definitely will and they'll make a lot of money

So I would like to know now he has been booted off, are you actually Solomon like it was implied at the start of this thread?

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

Rondette posted:

So I would like to know now he has been booted off, are you actually Solomon like it was implied at the start of this thread?

Are you questioning the veracity of my sources?

Paperhouse, how did you come up with the Willykini?

Devol_Tettran
Sep 3, 2011



Clever Betty
Why has no-one commented on the most important part of the teaser for the final?

The return of Mark's nervous cough. Ahem-hem.


Robnoxious posted:

Now we get easy breezy Daniel?

He didn't seem half as much of a twat on YF.

The Big Taff Man
Nov 22, 2005


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Rondette posted:

So I would like to know now he has been booted off, are you actually Solomon like it was implied at the start of this thread?

I dont think his nda will have run out yet

Junkenstein
Oct 22, 2003

8raz posted:

Actually gently caress it. It's always been ridiculous, this series has been more transparent than ever though.

It's strange, pretty much everyone watches The Apprentice just to see full-of-themselves twats mess up and get their comeuppance, yet we can't help but complain about the fallacies in The Process.

But yeah, this year definitely seemed the worse. From poorly thought out tasks like the daytrip one; to skeletongate; to a general feeling that the producers were really stretching with the narrative each week, making it feel obvious where they were manipulating the story.

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Nov 22, 2005


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I disagree 1000% with anyone who thinks the skeleton thing was unfair

eating only apples
Dec 12, 2009

Shall we dance?

Rarity posted:

Yeah she Neil Cloughed it :(

Still the biggest disappointment of the show. :(

The Big Taff Man
Nov 22, 2005


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My biggesrt disapointment was Paul Tulip. Didnt get in the boardroom once, then in the interviews got sacked straight away

twoot
Oct 29, 2012

Nick is leaving The Apprentice after this series

pippy
May 29, 2013

CRIMES

Paragon8 posted:

Roisin's failure with the foodstuffs seems to be more about poor planning and scope. The point about how she plans to get it in 100 supermarkets was really the killer not to mention trying to get loans based on the first investment. Comes across as someone super successful in her career thinking that'll immediately translate to a different field.
Didn't you hear that she eats food? She's clearly an expert in the food industry!

DoctorTristan
Mar 11, 2006

I would look up into your lifeless eyes and wave, like this. Can you and your associates arrange that for me, Mr. Morden?
An old uni friend just posted on FB that he once worked with Roisin at E&Y. Apparently she completely ballsed up her part of the project and left him holding the can.

gorki
Aug 9, 2014
Why did Solomon get such an easy time? Everyone seemed to be excusing him for being an airhead because he's young but he's 23? Since when has that been an age when it is acceptable for a person to talk and behave like a child? I suspect a hundred odd years ago that would have got him locked up somewhere. Definitely not advocating that, but I found him intensely irritating to watch and I am now convinced that he never had any intention of getting anything out of the show other than social media fame. Anyway it has been a poo poo series imo and I have already forgotten most of it. I might have watched the final if it'd been Mark and Daniel but tbh i don't care at all whether it's tights or digital mehhkidding

tldr poo poo series, worn out tv show, not interested in final, solomon bellend

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Nov 22, 2005


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gorki posted:

Why did Solomon get such an easy time? Everyone seemed to be excusing him for being an airhead because he's young but he's 23? Since when has that been an age when it is acceptable for a person to talk and behave like a child? I suspect a hundred odd years ago that would have got him locked up somewhere. Definitely not advocating that, but I found him intensely irritating to watch and I am now convinced that he never had any intention of getting anything out of the show other than social media fame. Anyway it has been a poo poo series imo and I have already forgotten most of it. I might have watched the final if it'd been Mark and Daniel but tbh i don't care at all whether it's tights or digital mehhkidding

tldr poo poo series, worn out tv show, not interested in final, solomon bellend

When did he behave like a child?

Strom Cuzewon
Jul 1, 2010

The Big Taff Man posted:

When did he behave like a child?

Goofing around with the skeleton, touching everything on the interviewers desk while waving a glass around like an airplane, pictures of loving boats, badmouthing Bianca as soon as heswitched teams

Robnoxious
Feb 17, 2004

The only immature thing Solomon did that stood out for me was when they were casting people for the NYC advert and he was drat near diving down the tattooed chick's cleavage with his eyeballs.

To me, he came across as an excitable puppy that was just brought home; Running around with no sense of direction and generally getting into mischief until someone swatted him with a newspaper and gave him a firm "No!"

I never took Solomon, Jimmy Hill, or Sanjay too seriously throughout the series. They were the clown princes of The Apprentice and lived up to that expectation mostly.

The sleeper I didn't see coming in a million years is Bianca. She has been as transparent as cling wrap all series and now she's this front runner.

The Big Taff Man
Nov 22, 2005


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Strom Cuzewon posted:

Goofing around with the skeleton, touching everything on the interviewers desk while waving a glass around like an airplane, pictures of loving boats, badmouthing Bianca as soon as heswitched teams

Bianca got badmouthed by a couple of people and with good reason - reminder that she gave exclusivity to the biggest area for stores in london to a tinpot shop, which nearly cost them a big waterstones order (which iirc Solomon negotiated on). I can understand the goofing around with the skeleton - he was trying to negotiate and for someone who's no experience in negotiations that can be difficult, so his tactic was to lighten the mood before negotiating much like he did with the other sales tasks such as the wellies and swings and candles.

There was no doubt he'd not be a winner for his business plan but Solomon could have been an interesting candidate in the old Apprentice shows as he's much more potential for moulding, the big problem is that I dont think Shugs would have had time for him.

I would say he was immature which is understandable for 22 (not 23) but I'd hardly say he acted the child. Its no shock really when you read his web profile

quote:

Solomon works at a creative agency while also running his own company, a technology business within the social media field. He has also created and managed events for students including a retail store ‘lock-in’ and group yacht trip round Croatia. Although he now makes money from entertaining students, he wishes he'd spent less of his own cash on having a good time at university, in favour of investing it in his business.

Solomon describes himself as enthusiastic, energetic and personable and he is passionate about technology and travel, but is angered by negativity. The entrepreneur claims his best business skill is his ability to market products, manage products and pitch to clients in a commercial field.

Quote : Sometimes my over-enthusiasm can annoy people

pretty much spot on on how he acted tbf

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The Big Taff Man
Nov 22, 2005


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The Big Taff Man posted:

Watching all the videos on the website now

Bianca - Awful, boring.
Chiles - Possible Winner. Seems confident and sensible.
Daniel - "I will outsell them, I will outclass them, and I will beat them by being me" - this guys video is by far the best. 100% he will use the "Im like you Sir Alun" line
Ella - "I dont need a sentance, Im Me, and thats who I am". Rubbish
Felipe - Talks about himself in 3rd person at the start. Brilliant. "I was voted in the top 100 Columbians in 2012, which was good because I was among people like Shakira"
Jimmy Hill - "I AM HIM WHEN HE WAS MY AGE". Nickname is Del Boy. Lol I hate this guy. Hes definately using the I'm like you line.
Jemma - looks much better in video than her pic. I really like her but shes a dumb blonde.
Katie - Reminds me of Charlotte from Geordie Shore.
Lauren - Unattractive and I hate her voice. Why the gently caress does Rarity think shes totty? Seems a right cow. Hope she fucks off early
Lindsay - Her make up is weird in her video. Compares herself to Shugs. Says shes hates chauvenistic men. My 2nd most hated after Lauren right now. Also theres spelling mistakes in her Bio and they spell her name two different ways and its annoyed me

Will watch the rest in a bit

The Big Taff Man posted:

Mark Wright - A bigger wanker than the real Mark Wright. I hate this guy.
Nurun - Awful. She'll get overrun by the dominant women.
Pamela - Shes my favourite of the women so far. But describing herself as bubbly annoyed me
Robert - What a posh oval office. If you dont hate him within 15 seconds of his video starting then youre a better man than me. Wanted to stab myself in the eyes watching this one. It gets worse as it goes on
Roisin - Nicks going to love her. I think I do too. My new favourite woman.
Sanjay - loving HELL HES MORE HATEABLE THAN ROBERT
Sarah - She could sell ice to Eskimos. I hate her. loving hell why are there so many hateable contestants
Scott - My girlfriend was sat behind me while I was watching these and when Scotts video started "A funny thing about me is I was the only boy in my primary school to volunteer for the talent show, and I sang Wet Wet Wet" and she said "you love him already dont you" AND YES I DO
Solomon - Will get overrun by the men. Hes a candidate for week 1 elimination. Really annoying because he talks with his hands.
Steven - "I was the only social worker in the arctic" - I have no clue what to make of this guy. I think I hate him. Actually the last 15 seconds hes so unbelievably camp that yes, I hate him

My favourites from the video - Pamela, Roisin, Daniel, Scott.

Looks like I hated Mark and Bianca from the start. Brilliant

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