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nsaP posted:The Gherkin Chandok has been purged. This reminded me to check when the next Formula E race is. Apparently it's on the 10th of January, which according to the main site's Official Timekeeper is in 42 days.
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I can't get enough of are Dan 
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Wirth1000 posted:It was posted a while ago. The consensus was that Hartstein is a bit nutty and the FIA is a lot nutty. Pretty much. Difference is Hartstein knows what the gently caress he's talking about.
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Dec 29, 2014 14:34
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That helicopter/ambulance thing did seem like a pretty glaring failure when it happened. Could Bianchi's family sue the FIA or something? I remember an interview with Mosley where he said why they ran the 05 Indy GP the way they did and one of the things he mentioned was that they couldn't change the course because they hadn't tested it for safety or something in the new configuration which was in the books as a procedure. And then subsequently if a crash happened a judge or whoever would have asked them, "did you follow your own procedures?"
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Dec 29, 2014 16:28
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What ambulance helicopter thing? They couldn't fly him out in a helicopter because there was a monsoon coming. The same reason there were no helicopter shots during the race.
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Dec 29, 2014 16:40
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Yeah but did you read the Hartstein thing? There's a rule that says the track has to be 20 minutes away from a hospital by ambulance if the helicopter can't fly, and it took them 40 minutes to get to the hospital.
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Dec 29, 2014 16:55
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Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester posted:Yeah but did you read the Hartstein thing? There's a rule that says the track has to be 20 minutes away from a hospital by ambulance if the helicopter can't fly, and it took them 40 minutes to get to the hospital. which is almost certainly a rule created after suzuka was built. what are they going to do, build a new hospital?
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Dec 29, 2014 16:59
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What they should have done was hold the race on Saturday or cancel it. But TV and money.
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Dec 29, 2014 17:02
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I thought they didn't put him in the chopper because he was so totally hosed up that the ride would have killed him. The doctors went in the chopper.
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Dec 29, 2014 17:15
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I'm Crap posted:I thought they didn't put him in the chopper because he was so totally hosed up that the ride would have killed him. The doctors went in the chopper. Yeah the chopper took off about the same time as he left the track, its just with that kind of head injury the patient could die due to the pressure changes caused by flying.
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Dec 29, 2014 17:21
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Well again, as Hartstein said, what they should have done was halt the race if the Helicopters couldn't fly, given that the ambulance couldn't get to the hospital fast enough.
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Dec 29, 2014 17:26
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Have of taste of Joe Saward's premium GP+ magazine/pdf he throws together with some other hacks: https://joesaward.files.wordpress.com/2014/11/gp159abdab14.pdf
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Dec 29, 2014 17:43
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be nice wicka posted:which is almost certainly a rule created after suzuka was built. what are they going to do, build a new hospital? Yes. Or not run a race there.
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Dec 29, 2014 17:44
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Wirth1000 posted:Have of taste of Joe Saward's premium GP+ magazine/pdf he throws together with some other hacks: https://joesaward.files.wordpress.com/2014/11/gp159abdab14.pdf C'n^cl p'l*
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Wirth1000 posted:Have of taste of Joe Saward's premium GP+ magazine/pdf he throws together with some other hacks: https://joesaward.files.wordpress.com/2014/11/gp159abdab14.pdf I think Hamilton's dog could have done a better job of the layout than that
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Dec 29, 2014 18:11
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Wirth1000 posted:Have of taste of Joe Saward's premium GP+ magazine/pdf he throws together with some other hacks: https://joesaward.files.wordpress.com/2014/11/gp159abdab14.pdf People pay for that. Actual money.
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Dec 29, 2014 18:14
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I sometimes wonder what it's like to care so much about a topic that you will pay to read what someone writes about it.
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Dec 29, 2014 18:21
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IT’S ALL ABOUT THE PASSION Lewis the unbreakable
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Brainwrong posted:The last time Phil opened his mouth, Schumacher's PR woman told him to shut it and that he'd never been to visit so couldn't know what was going on. She did this time, too . nsaP fucked around with this message at 19:16 on Dec 29, 2014 |
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Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester posted:Well again, as Hartstein said, what they should have done was halt the race if the Helicopters couldn't fly, given that the ambulance couldn't get to the hospital fast enough. But the helicopter could fly?  They chose to drive him on medical grounds.Wirth1000 posted:Have of taste of Joe Saward's premium GP+ magazine/pdf he throws together with some other hacks: https://joesaward.files.wordpress.com/2014/11/gp159abdab14.pdf I had to remind myself this wasn't a Trentham Sleave article partway through that first bit. jammyozzy fucked around with this message at 19:27 on Dec 29, 2014 |
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Dec 29, 2014 19:24
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The helicopters could fly at the circuit but could not land at the hospital as I remember.
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Dec 29, 2014 19:29
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nsaP posted:The helicopters could fly at the circuit but could not land at the hospital as I remember. You remember incorrectly
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Dec 29, 2014 19:35
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Cojawfee posted:I sometimes wonder what it's like to care so much about a topic that you will pay to read what someone writes about it. You've never bought a magazine, newspaper or non-fiction book>
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Dec 29, 2014 19:40
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Jedit posted:You've never bought a magazine, newspaper or non-fiction book> Or an SA subscription?
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Tsaedje posted:C'n^cl p'l*
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serious gaylord posted:You remember incorrectly Well it's what Ted said on the feed at least, I'll pass the blame to him.
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Dec 29, 2014 19:59
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was there ever anything to the story that the Marussia ERS meant you couldn't stop it effectively?
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Jedit posted:You've never bought a magazine, newspaper or non-fiction book> Those are about important things or tell a story. This is just some guy rambling about Formula 1. All you ever need to know about Formula 1 gets repeated endlessly throughout the race broadcast.
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Dec 29, 2014 20:19
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Cojawfee posted:Those are about important things or tell a story. This is just some guy rambling about Formula 1. All you ever need to know about Formula 1 gets repeated endlessly throughout the race broadcast. We never used to get FP sessions and you miss a tonne of poo poo by not seeing those.
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Dec 29, 2014 20:29
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jammyozzy posted:But the helicopter could fly?
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Dec 29, 2014 21:35
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the outcome wasn't going to be any different if he got to the hospital in five minutes
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Dec 29, 2014 21:53
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FIA Accident Panel: "All rescue and medical procedures were followed, and their expediency are considered to have contributed significantly to the saving of Bianchi’s life." http://www.fia.com/news/accident-panel But there's also this: quote:FIA chief medical officer Jean-Charles Piette: "The main referral hospital, which is Mie General Medical Centre, is 15km from the circuit. The distance by road is supposed to be 25 minutes under normal circumstances. keevo fucked around with this message at 22:22 on Dec 29, 2014 |
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Dec 29, 2014 22:19
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I feel like I'm the only one who read Hartstein's post on that stuff, he directly disagrees with a bunch of things just posted here: https://formerf1doc.wordpress.com/2014/12/04/the-bianchi-accident-investigation-panel/
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Dec 29, 2014 22:23
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be nice wicka posted:the outcome wasn't going to be any different if he got to the hospital in five minutes What if they make a new hospital so close to the circuit that drivers can just crash into the hospital?
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Dec 29, 2014 22:23
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Aqualung posted:What if they make a new hospital so close to the circuit that drivers can just crash into the hospital? They would have to crash slightly under it as well.
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Dec 29, 2014 22:29
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IMO they should just race in a hospital.
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Dec 29, 2014 22:30
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Former F1 Doctor Gary Shartstein should focus his attention more on the unnatural forces keeping Bernie alive imo.
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Alain Post posted:Former F1 Doctor Gary Shartstein should focus his attention more on the unnatural forces keeping Bernie alive imo. There's no rational medical explaination for that.
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That motherfucker is "only" 84. He could theoretically live for another 10 or even 20 years. poo poo, there was one dude in England that lived to be almost 114, so I can only assume that Bernie will still be around in 30 years. At which point I will be 70. Awesome. At least he's not a woman. Probably.
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I like how Joes Award can't get through a few sentences about Abu Dhabi without name dropping like every single Brit involved with construction there.
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