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PaintVagrant
Apr 13, 2007

~ the ultimate driving machine ~
Id buy it.

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Nitrox
Jul 5, 2002

AzizAnstarmie posted:

Ad says it needs front bushing and two new tires.
There is a chance that B18 swap and lowering garbage are straining the axles and loving up steering geometry. Chances are, you'll need new tires/bushings/balljoints every 5k miles

Queen_Combat
Jan 15, 2011

I'd run.

Nitrox
Jul 5, 2002

blk posted:

An M-Edition like that would typically be 6-7 in my neighborhood, the NB would be around 4500-5500. Not sure if you're being sarcastic or not, but as to the pricing discrepancy, the M Edition carries cachet as a special edition to Miataphiles (which I am not), it has the hardtop, LSD, leather and other trim advantages compared to a standard car, some people prefer the style of the NA to NB (I know I don't like the styling of the NB1, myself) , although I believe some people prefer the 99 NB to later NBs for some reason I'm forgetting - is it something to do with ODB II or the ECU?
I don't claim to understand -philes, irrational people always pay irrational priced. I'm genuinely wondering whether it has an actual value attached to it other than pure hype. It's not the only model with hardtop and LSD, and in my part of the country, much newer and better Miatas are available for 5k

http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/cto/4808615793.html
http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/cto/4760937337.html
http://delaware.craigslist.org/cto/4810977328.html
http://delaware.craigslist.org/cto/4818230760.html

The early 90's models are under 2 grand all day long... but also there are poor delusional people like this guy

http://southjersey.craigslist.org/cto/4814699209.html

brand engager
Mar 23, 2011

AzizAnstarmie posted:


http://vancouver.craigslist.ca/bnc/cto/4787690716.html

I'm considering selling my 2010 Mazda3 and buying this. Insurance would be so much cheaper and I'd be able to pay off my loan. Ad says it needs front bushing and two new tires.

That seems a bit steep for a 26 year old car, even with a new engine.

PCOS Bill
May 12, 2013

by FactsAreUseless

Nitrox posted:

I don't claim to understand -philes, irrational people always pay irrational priced. I'm genuinely wondering whether it has an actual value attached to it other than pure hype. It's not the only model with hardtop and LSD, and in my part of the country, much newer and better Miatas are available for 5k

http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/cto/4808615793.html
http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/cto/4760937337.html
http://delaware.craigslist.org/cto/4810977328.html
http://delaware.craigslist.org/cto/4818230760.html

The early 90's models are under 2 grand all day long... but also there are poor delusional people like this guy

http://southjersey.craigslist.org/cto/4814699209.html

Yeah, but PA cars are made of half rust by two years old.

opengl
Sep 16, 2010

PCOS Bill posted:

Yeah, but PA cars are made of half rust by two years old.

Not necessarily. My 97 has nearly 150K and has minimal rust. It has lived all its life in NJ/PA.

Nitrox
Jul 5, 2002

PCOS Bill posted:

Yeah, but PA cars are made of half rust by two years old.
Why do you hate weight reduction?

GnarlyCharlie4u
Sep 23, 2007

I have an unhealthy obsession with motorcycles.

Proof

Nitrox posted:

Why do you hate weight reduction?

Rust weighs more than iron.

Fender Anarchist
May 20, 2009

Fender Anarchist

GnarlyCharlie4u posted:

Rust weighs more than iron.

Yeah but it flakes away.

blk
Dec 19, 2009
.
Post your best 'future classic' search results:

quote:

Future Classic car will be worth a lot more $$ Pontiac Grand Prix - $1999 (Troutdale)

http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/cto/4815034976.html

Nitrox
Jul 5, 2002

blk posted:

Post your best 'future classic' search results:


http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/cto/4815034976.html

The rest of that text is worth quoting as well

quote:

its not worth that much right now but will be worth a lote more later on

1999 Pontica Grand prix GT v6
clean title, 164K miles white
with factory stripes

great stereo and speaker

all alloy wheels
legendary 3800 Engine (the best one made by pontiac)
lots of spare parts included(nothingneeds to be installed)
set of winter tires also

barters accepted for manly stuff, guns, motorcycle, electronics other vehicles manly stuff.

blk
Dec 19, 2009
.
Another great search term is "DUI"

Team140
Dec 13, 2005

Christmas took out my toy fund and I really have no place to put this, otherwise, I'd go check it out. It doesn't look like a troll, but it could very well be. Local number and the trees and crap look like the stuff that's around here.

http://gainesville.craigslist.org/cto/4820531691.html



Appears to be a Rolls Royce Silver Cloud III

dougdrums
Feb 25, 2005
CLIENT REQUESTED ELECTRONIC FUNDING RECEIPT (FUNDS NOW)
"1905 idk"

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


Team140 posted:

Christmas took out my toy fund and I really have no place to put this, otherwise, I'd go check it out. It doesn't look like a troll, but it could very well be. Local number and the trees and crap look like the stuff that's around here.

http://gainesville.craigslist.org/cto/4820531691.html



Appears to be a Rolls Royce Silver Cloud III

it's probably someone trying to text bomb somebody they don't like. the picture is all over the internet, often in higher res.

Team140
Dec 13, 2005

Powershift posted:

it's probably someone trying to text bomb somebody they don't like. the picture is all over the internet, often in higher res.



Good catch. Sigh. There goes my dream of owning a Rolls...

(Actually, I was in the possession of a Silver Cloud II for about a year while working on it for a friend.)

Gorson
Aug 29, 2014

Other than the obvious "they did a poo poo job" , "is lying about the mileage", or "buys cars at the junk yard, fixes and flips them", reasons, why do I see so many cars for sale with "brand new engine"? If you just blew the time and money to swap in a new engine, wouldn't you want to keep it?

22 Eargesplitten
Oct 10, 2010



Because they know it needs a ton of other work too, so they got it running again and are trying to ditch it before they have to spend another few thousand on it.

torpedan
Jul 17, 2003
Lets make Uncle Ben proud
Along the same lines, unless the car is know to have issues, the same logic applies to transmissions. Generally speaking, it's a good indicator that the vehicle was poorly maintained and is likely to be a shitbox on wheels. See also, any ad that says 'mechanic owned' or any other combination attempting to sound like a vehicle was well cared for.

Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

Gorson posted:

Other than the obvious "they did a poo poo job" , "is lying about the mileage", or "buys cars at the junk yard, fixes and flips them", reasons, why do I see so many cars for sale with "brand new engine"? If you just blew the time and money to swap in a new engine, wouldn't you want to keep it?

Also there's this very irrational thing people do where a car costs them some money, and then some more money, and then some more money, and they reach a point where they're like "gently caress I'm tired of spending money on this car" and sell it. Even though all the money they spent means the car is actually in way better shape and will probably now last them a long time. Because if you had to spend money three times in nine months, your brain wants that to be a pattern that means you have to spend money every three months forever, and it's very difficult for some people to be rational and say "oh I replaced the engine and transmission and suspension, there's nothing expensive left to break."

People are often really really stupid about cars and about money in general.

There is the other side of this, though, where basically people are lying or being really dishonest. They did an engine swap because their cousin did an engine swap and their friend did an engine swap and it's the enthusiast cool thing to do. But they also couldn't afford to have it done well, so they did it on the cheap and the car just isn't quite right, not all the electrics are working, or the engine is stumbling, or there's niggling problems and they are tired of constantly loving with the car and have realized that as a practical matter, it's a lot more fun to have a car that just drives and works, than it is to keep up with your car enthusiast buddies and their engine swapping ways. So you get cars that sound good on paper, with a list of parts put in, and sometimes maybe a hint of honesty with a statement like "just needs a few tweaks and it's great" or "just needs a tune up" or "nearly ready" or whatever. The reality is it's a nightmare of an unfinished project car that you shouldn't touch for any price.

Sometimes they're just spazzes that lose interest in every project and move on to the next one all the time. We have a couple forums posters in AI like that. I wouldn't want to own the unfinished project of someone with a short attention span either.

Personally I think anyone that buys a car on craigslist that has an engine swap or other major modification like that needs to be an experienced mechanic who can judge immediately whether it's been done well or poorly, and it has to be some kind of great bargain where just buying the original car and parts and doing it yourself would be a lot more expensive.

I mean, I'm sure there's great deals out there where someone did all that work and now they're suddenly having a baby and need the money, but I'd guess that's a small minority.

Leperflesh fucked around with this message at 21:51 on Dec 29, 2014

Elephanthead
Sep 11, 2008


Toilet Rascal
Brand new engine often means they paid someone to change the spark plugs.

skipdogg
Nov 29, 2004
Resident SRT-4 Expert


This reminds me next time I'm visiting I need to take pictures of my wife's grandparents 1985 Chrysler Fifth Avenue. They bought it new, fully optioned, and have seriously only driven it to Church on Sunday ever since. It has about 24,000 miles on it. It's garage kept and maintained perfectly by their mechanic. The drat thing looks brand new. The best part? It's Gold. They call it the Gold Car. Shag carpet, plush gold velour, it's like traveling back in time. I'm almost positive no one has ever sat in the rear seats, and the front floormats have been turned upside down the entire time they've owned it. It amazing and I should take pictures of it next time I'm visiting them.

Seat Safety Switch
May 27, 2008

MY RELIGION IS THE SMALL BLOCK V8 AND COMMANDMENTS ONE THROUGH TEN ARE NEVER LIFT.

Pillbug

Elephanthead posted:

Brand new engine often means they paid someone to change the spark plugs.

At one point I talked a guy who claimed his Subaru had a rebuilt engine into showing me the invoice for the rebuild. It was an $1800 job involving major brake work, transmission work, etc and at the bottom the valve cover gaskets were replaced.

Assume POs are never telling the truth about anything ever.

Great Beer
Jul 5, 2004

Gorson posted:

Other than the obvious "they did a poo poo job" , "is lying about the mileage", or "buys cars at the junk yard, fixes and flips them", reasons, why do I see so many cars for sale with "brand new engine"? If you just blew the time and money to swap in a new engine, wouldn't you want to keep it?

The same reason I immediately fobbed off my old civic after the transmission was replaced: the people who did it did poo poo work and I knew it. Screw dealing with that problem again. And yes I told the buyer about it. And warned them about that sorry excuse for a transmission shop.

E; derp. Missed the " other than poo poo work " part.

Great Beer fucked around with this message at 08:59 on Dec 30, 2014

BrokenKnucklez
Apr 22, 2008

by zen death robot


Perpetuating the stereotype

SUSE Creamcheese
Apr 11, 2007
Found this relatively clean-looking 924, although the mention of rust and soft brakes (plus the fact that it's a European car from the 70s) has me worried that it's rotting out underneath. The interior is amazing though.

http://columbus.craigslist.org/cto/4806297825.html







SUSE Creamcheese fucked around with this message at 00:37 on Jan 1, 2015

CornHolio
May 20, 2001

Toilet Rascal

zundfolge posted:

Found this relatively clean-looking 924, although the mention of rust and soft brakes (plus the fact that it's a European car from the 70s) has me worried that it's rotting out underneath. The interior is amazing though.

http://columbus.craigslist.org/cto/4806297825.html









I'm hoping 944 prices don't go up much in the next few years, I really want a clean non-turbo. That 924 is stupidly clean though.

PaintVagrant
Apr 13, 2007

~ the ultimate driving machine ~
Dem seats!

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

zundfolge posted:

Found this relatively clean-looking 924, although the mention of rust and soft brakes (plus the fact that it's a European car from the 70s) has me worried that it's rotting out underneath. The interior is amazing though.

Soft brakes are really likely to be no maintenance/bad hoses and easily remedied.

The entire chassis of those cars are galvanized from the factory, so if there is any significant rust outside of typical stone chip areas run away: it's been hit and repaired.

Applebees Appetizer
Jan 23, 2006

Gorson posted:

Other than the obvious "they did a poo poo job" , "is lying about the mileage", or "buys cars at the junk yard, fixes and flips them", reasons, why do I see so many cars for sale with "brand new engine"? If you just blew the time and money to swap in a new engine, wouldn't you want to keep it?

Unless it's a classic car "new engine" is usually not a good thing and it's funny how people post like it is.

2005 Camry ***NEW ENGINE!!!!!***

Thanks for pointing out that you're a giant dumbass that managed to blow up the motor in your car, I have no interest in it whatsoever.

Seat Safety Switch
May 27, 2008

MY RELIGION IS THE SMALL BLOCK V8 AND COMMANDMENTS ONE THROUGH TEN ARE NEVER LIFT.

Pillbug

Motronic posted:

The entire chassis of those cars are galvanized from the factory, so if there is any significant rust outside of typical stone chip areas run away: it's been hit and repaired.

The 924 is galvanized too? That makes a lot of sense, most of them are much more pristine than the cost would have me expect. They're definitely undervalued in my local market if you're willing to go to sketchy places to buy them.

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

Seat Safety Switch posted:

The 924 is galvanized too? That makes a lot of sense, most of them are much more pristine than the cost would have me expect. They're definitely undervalued in my local market if you're willing to go to sketchy places to buy them.

My understanding is that starting in the early 70s they began with galvanized floor pans in the 911s and continued to use more are more galvanized parts every year. All models of Porsche chassis from '76 onward were built entirely out of hot-dip galvanized steel - this is why you'll see many fewer pre-'76 911s in unmolested condition and they are worth a mint. At some point they were dipping entire chassis so even the welds were galvanized. Not sure when that started and/or on what models. I know I've found seam sealer on early 924s, but that may have been from repairs. There is no seam sealer on my 944 so I assume the entire chassis was dipped.

G-Mach
Feb 6, 2011


http://wausau.craigslist.org/cto/4826634607.html

I don't even know.

Literally Lewis Hamilton
Feb 22, 2005




I know. That owns.

i own every Bionicle
Oct 23, 2005

cstm ttle? kthxbye

Nobody told him you can take out more than one ad if you are selling more than one car.

The snowmobuggy owns hard

G-Mach
Feb 6, 2011
I want to drive out to the guy's place just to see it.

spookykid
Apr 28, 2006

G-Mach posted:

I want to drive out to the guy's place just to see it.

DO IT. I want to go to there,

Seat Safety Switch
May 27, 2008

MY RELIGION IS THE SMALL BLOCK V8 AND COMMANDMENTS ONE THROUGH TEN ARE NEVER LIFT.

Pillbug

G-Mach posted:

I want to drive out to the guy's place just to see it.

Go out and get him an account.

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G-Mach
Feb 6, 2011

Seat Safety Switch posted:

Go out and get him an account.

It runs too. Just look at the pictures.

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