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edotherocket posted:I was given the most recent Macho Man Blu Ray as a Christmas gift and watched Savage vs Flair from September '92 where Flair wins the title back. It's the first time I've seen the match. It takes place shortly after Summerslam 92 and Savage is still selling an injured knee from Flair's chair attack. Austin wasn't in wrestling school until '89.
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I was trying to watch Bryan vs Miz from NoC 2010 but couldn't make it five minutes before getting sick of Heel Cole ranting about Gene LeBell. When did that garbage start and end so I know which PPVs to not bother with?
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Jan 1, 2015 10:17
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How does WWE consider the workers independent contractors but include a non-compete? I know ADR and Punk got out of their non-competes, but there is news about WWE updating everyone's contracts to strengthen the non-compete. Doesn't UFC have like a couple of class action lawsuits ongoing because of this sort of thing? How does that not concern WWE?
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edotherocket posted:I was given the most recent Macho Man Blu Ray as a Christmas gift and watched Savage vs Flair from September '92 where Flair wins the title back. It's the first time I've seen the match. It takes place shortly after Summerslam 92 and Savage is still selling an injured knee from Flair's chair attack. It's happened a bunch of times, Flair pinned Hogan with the figure 4 at Uncensored 99. In a first blood barbed wire cage match with a crooked ref and outside help. Sub Rosa posted:How does WWE consider the workers independent contractors but include a non-compete? I know ADR and Punk got out of their non-competes, but there is news about WWE updating everyone's contracts to strengthen the non-compete. Doesn't UFC have like a couple of class action lawsuits ongoing because of this sort of thing? How does that not concern WWE? If a contractor holds a trade secret or will be able to unreasonably solicit business for a new related business due to its previous employer they are going to be given a non-compete. Just because someone is classified as an independent contractor doesn't mean a non-compete is invalid. UFC's class action lawsuit has pretty much nothing to do with this, WWE would have to be concerned with former wrestlers taking them to court on the independent contractor issue in general.
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Jan 1, 2015 10:37
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Luigi Thirty posted:I was trying to watch Bryan vs Miz from NoC 2010 but couldn't make it five minutes before getting sick of Heel Cole ranting about Gene LeBell. When did that garbage start and end so I know which PPVs to not bother with? Skip 2011 entirely.
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Jan 1, 2015 11:27
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MassRafTer posted:WWE would have to be concerned with former wrestlers taking them to court on the independent contractor issue in general. I can't comprehend why they aren't concerned, though.
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Jan 1, 2015 12:09
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Corzaa posted:Skip 2011 entirely. Heel Cole stuck around (not as overbearing, but still there) until right after Lawler's heart attack. He had to break character that night and they never went back from there.
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Jan 1, 2015 12:42
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Sub Rosa posted:I can't comprehend why they aren't concerned, though. What makes you think they aren't concerned though? The company often seems to have their head up their rear end, but they're usually pretty competent at screwing workers, squashing unions, and dodging contract lawsuits.
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Jan 1, 2015 15:48
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Luigi Thirty posted:I was trying to watch Bryan vs Miz from NoC 2010 but couldn't make it five minutes before getting sick of Heel Cole ranting about Gene LeBell. When did that garbage start and end so I know which PPVs to not bother with? Yes, really.
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Jan 1, 2015 15:57
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Sub Rosa posted:I can't comprehend why they aren't concerned, though. They probably assume that the average released performer won't have the funds to fight them in court. They're not all making Punk/Del Rio money.
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Sub Rosa posted:This makes me wonder... how many times has the top title changed hands not in the main event? It took me 18 seconds to think of Bryan/Sheamus at wrestlemania. (If you want to say that that wasn't the top title, fine.) Orton was awarded the WWE title at No Mercy 07 when Cena couldn't defend, and then HHH beat Orton in the opening match. In that tournament to find a replacement champ during the Summer of Punk storyline, Rey won the tournament in a RAW opener. WCW did it a few times that I can think of off the top: Sting beat DDP for the WCW title on a Nitro opener in April 99. DDP won it back in a 4-way in the main event. Booker T beat Steiner for the WCW title on the final nitro's opener. The last match of the night was Sting/Flair.
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Andre beat Hogan for the title and it wasn't the main event, although it was on the Main Event.
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IronCladBurrito posted:
Didn't Orton then win the belt at the end of the PPV?
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Davros1 posted:Didn't Orton then win the belt at the end of the PPV? Yes, HHH went over Orton in the opener and then beat Umaga later in the night before losing to orton in the main.
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oldpainless posted:Andre beat Hogan for the title and it wasn't the main event, although it was on the Main Event. That's a little different, if only because the Main Event usually started with the top match due to the late timeslot.
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Davros1 posted:Didn't Orton then win the belt at the end of the PPV? As part of a contrived way to try and make good with the audience with Randy Orton in a Last Man Standing match. The No Mercy ME was supposed to be a blowoff LMS match between Orton and Cena. Cena was injured in the ME of the go home Raw, so they didn't have a chance to rebook anything prior to the PPV.
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Jan 1, 2015 19:38
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ayn rand hand job posted:As part of a contrived way to try and make good with the audience with Randy Orton in a Last Man Standing match. First PPV I ever bought, and I got two title changes & three title matches. Orton was awarded the belt in the opening segment, he lost it to HHH in the surprise opening contest, HHH successfully defended against Umaga in their previously booked match in the midcard, and then he lost it back to Orton in the LMS main event. That show was a complete clusterfuck that also included a pizza eating contest as well as a Punjabi Prison match, and HBK came back the next night on Raw to debut Randy Orton's jelly-leg superkick sell: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bBdSuoZv3Q&t=408s
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magnum_valentino posted:What's her brother Zak up to now? Is he still trying to get fit enough for a successful WWE tryout or has he contented himself with knocking about in the indies? I like him, I'd like to see him do well. In a tag team with his brother called the Hooligans. He still holds out hope about getting signed with WWE. He has a wife and son now so I don't think it will really happen for him.
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Punk started his long reign at Survivor Series 2011 - which was headlined by Rock/Cena vs. Miz/Truth
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rovert posted:In a tag team with his brother called the Hooligans. He still holds out hope about getting signed with WWE. He has a wife and son now so I don't think it will really happen for him. They should consider changing the "S" to a "Z".
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Jan 2, 2015 03:00
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Which Raw is it that contains the famous Paul Ellering "My new tag team... is DOA!" promo and his rant about the internet? Should be June-July '98 but I can't find it.
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What's the context of that gif of Big Show, holding his fist up, I think wearing a suit, and making a horrified face? e: this one 
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Nostradingus posted:What's the context of that gif of Big Show, holding his fist up, I think wearing a suit, and making a horrified face? He really wanted to punch the Authority. Finding out you will die soon will make you very emotional.
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Luigi Thirty posted:Which Raw is it that contains the famous Paul Ellering "My new tag team... is DOA!" promo and his rant about the internet? Should be June-July '98 but I can't find it. I'm not sure, but that was when he was the legendary Mr. Dot Com. Nostradingus posted:What's the context of that gif of Big Show, holding his fist up, I think wearing a suit, and making a horrified face? Wasn't that during the whole "Big Show is bad with money so the Authority purchased all his belongings causing him to cry all the time" angle?
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Pope Corky the IX posted:I'm not sure, but that was when he was the legendary Mr. Dot Com. It was June 29 '98. Still looking for the one where he declares himself Mr. Dot Com, he just rants about how it's the ERA OF THE INTERNET.
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Luigi Thirty posted:It was June 29 '98. Still looking for the one where he declares himself Mr. Dot Com, he just rants about how it's the ERA OF THE INTERNET. That was him just repeating something Vince fed him because the Internet was a new and scary thing.
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Pope Corky the IX posted:That was him just repeating something Vince fed him because the Internet was a new and scary thing. HBK does seem concerned about the internet. 
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God, that hangover canNOT be worth whatever he did to get it.
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Gaz-L posted:God, that hangover canNOT be worth whatever he did to get it. cocaine and sunny, probably
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What, in kayfabe, does Great sasuke think he's ever going to accomplish when he climbs into that bigass barrel?
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oatgan posted:cocaine and sunny, probably 1996 Sunny would probably be worth it.
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Nostradingus posted:What's the context of that gif of Big Show, holding his fist up, I think wearing a suit, and making a horrified face? This was big show finally snapping and declaring, after being Steph & Hunter's slave for weeks, that he was mad as hell, not going to take it anymore and planning to punch HHH in the face
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Blasmeister posted:This was big show finally snapping and declaring, after being Steph & Hunter's slave for weeks, that he was mad as hell, not going to take it anymore and planning to punch HHH in the face and now he's put them back in power because ???
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WadeBartender posted:and now he's put them back in power because ??? Turns are a good storytelling device that must be reserved exclusively for the Big Show.
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WadeBartender posted:and now he's put them back in power because ??? Big Show can apparently knock out the toughest wrestlers with a single, slow punch to the head. Yet he chooses only to attempt this like, once per match. Big Show is a moron.
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Blast Fantasto posted:Big Show can apparently knock out the toughest wrestlers with a single, slow punch to the head. Yet he chooses only to attempt this like, once per match. If you use a slow punch on a fresh opponent you will get countered.
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similarly, why doesn't anyone use flying bicycle kicks, full-body-rotation reverse hook kicks, giant roaring telegraphed lariats with heavy follow-through, and concentrated punches to a grounded foe the moment the match begins?
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LvK posted:similarly, why doesn't anyone use flying bicycle kicks, full-body-rotation reverse hook kicks, giant roaring telegraphed lariats with heavy follow-through, and concentrated punches to a grounded foe the moment the match begins? Pretty much all of those have the theatrics/fun required to suspend my disbelief. Bog How slowly punching a guy does not.
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