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Soricidus
Oct 21, 2010
freedom-hating statist shill
marinecoin is going to the sea of tranquility, buy buY BUY

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indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?
decentralization is the future
that's why there should be one currency and every single aspect of human existence should be mediated through the one blockchain. it's how we take power back. competition is anathema.

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


Soricidus posted:

marinecoin is going to the sea of tranquility, buy buY BUY

The market on marinecoin is so small, with about 50 bitcoins you could drive the price up to 1 bitcoin on every exchange it's traded on, at which point you would have 1000 of them.

So 50 bitcoins at $340 $310 $280 a piece is $14,000. you would buy about 1000 marinecoins which would then be worth 1 bitcoin each, so $280 each, meaning they're worth $280,000. That's a profit of $266,000. $280,000

more info:
1 marinecoin per block, one block every 2 minutes, 9,999,999,999 max coins, 97.2% premined by the developer. Basically another pump and dump altcoin. time to get in on the ground floor.

Powershift fucked around with this message at 12:28 on Jan 4, 2015

DaTroof
Nov 16, 2000

CC LIMERICK CONTEST GRAND CHAMPION
There once was a poster named Troof
Who was getting quite long in the toof

PleasureKevin posted:

trading boys

is bruce wagner back

Chocobo
Oct 15, 2012


Here comes a new challenger!
Oven Wrangler
you should post this to /r/bitcoinmarkets, they will hail you as a prophet. you have figured out how to get rich, and quick

just omit the premining bit

Elysiume
Aug 13, 2009

Alone, she fights.

Powershift posted:

97.2% premined by the developer.
seriously?

Herman Merman
Jul 6, 2008
we're below the 2014 low :marc:

sleepy gary
Jan 11, 2006


lol

Herman Merman
Jul 6, 2008
any second now it'll go below 260

at which point those who bought at the height of the 2013 bubble will be in the red :unsmigghh:

Wheany
Mar 17, 2006

Spinyahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Doctor Rope

trucutru posted:

Estimated next difficulty: 45,297,836,195 (+13.01%)

gently caress yes, we're back to "difficulty increase is larger than the total hash rate was less than a year ago"

Wheany
Mar 17, 2006

Spinyahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Doctor Rope

Herman Merman posted:

we're below the 2014 low :marc:

surebet
Jan 10, 2013

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specialist


good morning thread, good morning low of... 252-260.

TVarmy
Sep 11, 2011

like food and water, my posting has no intrinsic value

re: the what if chase made an altcoin talk:

what if they took a bunch of servers and had them communicate transactions with encrypted messages? and then they store those transactions in a distributed database? instead of letting anyone mine, you'd need access to this secure network to add transactions.

they could call it a debit card.

TVarmy
Sep 11, 2011

like food and water, my posting has no intrinsic value

http://nypost.com/2015/01/03/afraid-of-loss-espn-makes-fast-cash-on-bitcoin-payment/

Afraid of loss, ESPN makes fast cash on Bitcoin payment

By Richard Morgan

January 3, 2015 | 1:58am

Participants in the Bitcoin St. Petersburg Bowl aren’t exactly bowled over by the digital currency.

While BitPay, the so-called PayPal of bitcoin, used the digital currency to pay for its sponsorship of the Dec. 26 game, ESPN converted it to dollars immediately.

It apparently didn’t want to risk losing money by sitting on a currency that has had more ups and downs than a Coney Island roller-coaster.

The move by ESPN proved to be very smart.

Since the game, bitcoin has fallen 3.9 percent, to $314.59.

That means ESPN, if it sat on a $500,000 rights fee, it would have lost about $20,000 over seven days.

Each of the teams in the game — North Carolina State University of the Atlantic Coast Conference and the University of Central Florida of the American Athletic conference — got paid in cash.

Several reports maintained that the conferences had the choice of getting paid in bitcoin or dollars.

As the event’s owner, ESPN Events paid the game’s guarantees, just as it paid all other expenses associated with the Bitcoin Bowl’s production.

Yet not a single vendor eligible for payments from ESPN received bitcoin in return for its services.

But that’s not to say BitPay’s foray into football was all for naught.

St. Petersburg merchants were such boosters of the bowl that more than 100 of them geared up to accept bitcoin before kick-off. And, besides, there’s still two years to go.

surebet
Jan 10, 2013

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specialist


A minimum of 1470 Bitcoins has to be dumped on the market just to cover electricity cost (self.Bitcoin)
submitted 3 hours ago * by Thireus

Unpleasant Truth...

3975 BTC are mined every day --> 24x60/9.06x25=3974 (24 hours x 60 minutes / ~9.06 average time between blocks x 25 BTC block reward)
Assuming that the mining farms in China are using the most efficient ASIC miner available on the market, that is to say the Antminer S4, it would cost about 37%* of their mined Bitcoins just to cover the electricity cost at a rate of $0.08/kWh which is the average electricity price in China and India.

So everyday, a minimum of 37% of the newly created coins has to be dumped on the market. Which is 1470.75 BTC or 423,576 USD.

In an ideal world where everyone uses the most efficient ASIC miner, lives in China or India, and holds all their mined coins (and only dump as much as they need to cover the electricity), a minimum of $423,576 worth of Bitcoins has to be bought everyday on the market to maintain a stable price (no price drops). Which in fact is more likely to be double $423,576 as miners also want to make a profit (by dumping more of their BTC for $). Also, miners are located all around the world (higher electricity rates) and not everyone uses the most efficient Bitcoin miners (Bitcoin miners have to cover for the hardware cost too!).

* S4 specs are 2TH/s for 1.38kW/h at a rate of $0.08/kWh, BTC price at $288, difficulty at 40,640,955,016.58 and block reward of 25BTC: (1.38*0.08*24)/(86400/(40640955016.58*2^32/(2*10^12))*25*288) ~ 37%

evilweasel
Aug 24, 2002

you mean to say that bitcoin's value is being destroyed by inflation :ohdear:

Just-In-Timeberlake
Aug 18, 2003
well this thread was a pleasant surprise to wake up to

surebet
Jan 10, 2013

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specialist


with fair warning that i've yet to put any coffee in me, with the current price it's more like 42%, and i'd be interested in digging up how many miners bfl sent out just to drag that optimal efficiency way, way the gently caress down

evilweasel
Aug 24, 2002

surebet posted:

with fair warning that i've yet to put any coffee in me, with the current price it's more like 42%, and i'd be interested in digging up how many miners bfl sent out just to drag that optimal efficiency way, way the gently caress down

basically the thing to remember is that if you assume that the miner dumping is causing the decline, then the price is going to get hosed and stay hosed because it's a feedback loop

miners dump coins to cover electricity costs, they're dumping more coins than the market can absorb so prices go down

which causes miners to need to dump more coins to cover electricity costs because the old number doesn't cover electricity anymore

so their dumping increases

and so even more bitcoins start flooding the market, and prices go down even faster

at some point you might have enough miners leave to slow the cycle or "cheap bitcoins" prompts the USD entering the market to increase but the former means the network gets hosed and everyone who would do the latter bought in long ago :laffo:

theflyingorc
Jun 28, 2008

ANY GOOD OPINIONS THIS POSTER CLAIMS TO HAVE ARE JUST PROOF THAT BULLYING WORKS
Young Orc
i believe in the free market, but i am very upset that market forces are not causing the price to skyrocket, this is an outrage

Robawesome
Jul 22, 2005



im dead

streetlamp
May 7, 2007

Danny likes his party hat
He does not like his banana hat
Bitcoin Expo 2015 is at the end of this month, pleaaaaase keep tanking

http://bitcoinexpo2015.com/

LongDarkNight
Oct 25, 2010

It's like watching the collapse of Western civilization in fast forward.
Oven Wrangler
dear satan, thank you for the belated christmas gift

Dr. Phildo
Dec 8, 2003

Except the heaven had come so near,
So seemed to choose my door,The distance would not haunt me so

Soiled Meat

surebet posted:

In an ideal world where everyone uses the most efficient ASIC miner, lives in China or India, and holds all their mined coins

Yes the ideal world where we all live in China or India and use bitcoins

Alliterate Addict
Jul 10, 2012

dreaming of that face again

it's bright and blue and shimmering

grinning wide and comforting me with it's three warm and wild eyes

LongDarkNight posted:

dear satan, thank you for the belated christmas gift

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

reminder that people took a look at this website http://www.marinecoin.org and said yes I would like to invest

The Management
Jan 2, 2010

sup, bitch?
so under the most ideal conditions and not considering miner profits or transaction fees or bandwidth costs of the price of hardware it costs $150 million per year just to keep the network running. all to do what a single database running on a single computer can handle in transaction processing.

what does that make the true cost per transaction?

streetlamp
May 7, 2007

Danny likes his party hat
He does not like his banana hat
this site is nice to watch the buttdump imo
http://www.coinsight.co/

streetlamp
May 7, 2007

Danny likes his party hat
He does not like his banana hat

FCKGW posted:

reminder that people took a look at this website http://www.marinecoin.org and said yes I would like to invest

im the marinecoin yacht gentlemans club
http://www.marinecoin.org/#!marinecoin-yacht/c14sa

quote:

Don't miss out on this opportunity as we are about to create the World's most prestigious and exclusive gentlemen's club.

e: im actually everything on this website, its amazing

quote:

Safari refresh couple of times if you don't see the entire webpage contents below.

quote:

Marinecoin The Ultimate Life Style Provider.
Once you gracefully step up for yourself like a man! Things will quickly change in your favour.
It is your life, you decide what to do with it.

streetlamp fucked around with this message at 17:48 on Jan 4, 2015

Ville Valo
Sep 17, 2004

I'm waiting for your call
and I'm ready to take
your six six six
in my heart

FCKGW posted:

reminder that people took a look at this website http://www.marinecoin.org and said yes I would like to invest

why is marinecoin "mtc?"

is it because "btc"

unpacked robinhood
Feb 18, 2013

by Fluffdaddy
lol their contact form


e:
Marinecoin The Ultimate Life Style Provider.
Once you gracefully step up for yourself like a man! Things will quickly change in your favour.
It is your life, you decide what to do with it

unpacked robinhood fucked around with this message at 17:55 on Jan 4, 2015

in a well actually
Jan 26, 2011

dude, you gotta end it on the rhyme

the infinite is possible at marinecoin

surebet
Jan 10, 2013

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specialist


roger-ver-on-a-stick gives out thermal paper bits

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GB-lm2fnMw

School of How
Jul 6, 2013

quite frankly I don't believe this talk about the market
r/rbitcoin has basically become yospos

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2rapki/tim_draper_if_i_am_russian_i_would_be_selling/

most of the replies read like they came directly out of this thread

text editor
Jan 8, 2007
Ver is on a screen because he is not allowed near the WTC and surrounding area, per his conviction

unpacked robinhood
Feb 18, 2013

by Fluffdaddy

DAT NIGGA HOW posted:

r/rbitcoin has basically become yospos

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2rapki/tim_draper_if_i_am_russian_i_would_be_selling/

most of the replies read like they came directly out of this thread

how much did this guy lost on bitcoin ?

Malloc Voidstar
May 7, 2007

Fuck the cowboys. Unf. Fuck em hard.

unpacked robinhood posted:

how much did this guy lost on bitcoin ?
he won the entirety of the first auction of ~30k coins that were worth ~$640 each at the time. since he won all of them he probably was buying at near-market price (or above market)

so he's lost like $10m at least

School of How
Jul 6, 2013

quite frankly I don't believe this talk about the market

Aleksei Vasiliev posted:

he won the entirety of the first auction of ~30k coins that were worth ~$640 each at the time. since he won all of them he probably was buying at near-market price (or above market)

so he's lost like $10m at least

only on paper, he doesn't really lose anything until he sells his coin for usd

evilweasel
Aug 24, 2002

DAT NIGGA HOW posted:

only on paper, he doesn't really lose anything until he sells his coin for usd

he lost the entire purchase price the instant the government cashed the check

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Alliterate Addict
Jul 10, 2012

dreaming of that face again

it's bright and blue and shimmering

grinning wide and comforting me with it's three warm and wild eyes

DAT NIGGA HOW posted:

only on paper, he doesn't really lose anything until he sells his coin for usd

so at a minimum, he's lost $10m

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